Manchester United Sign Anthony Martial!

[Amadaeus]

I have as much proof that Chelsea wanted to match the price for Martial as you do that they didn't. You seem to believe those supporting Chelsea's fiscal prudence, whereas I don't buy it based on their transfer dealings in the past and this summer.

Stones would not have been a Chelsea player because Everton was not interested in selling their best CB that late in the window without having a replacement lined up.

Net spend is pretty relevant. It's a lot more relevant than just saying we overpaid for Martial. Fine we overpaid for one player and got solid value on 4 others this summer in BFS, Schneiderlin, Darmian and Depay, all of whom are likely to be starting XI players for us this season and in the case of the latter 3 for the foreseeable likely for the foreseeable future. If you handle the majority of your business well then you can afford to spunk an absurd amount of money for a talent that was generating interest from most of Europe's top clubs.

We always landed the big fish with SAF and David Gill? Maybe more than not United did, but it surely wasn't every time. Chelsea's rise to prominence basically came by trumping United to a number of transfer targets and while I wasn't posting or reading here at the time I'd imagine that many here were desperately concerned over United's ability to compete in the transfer market.

Last summer I thought our dealings were indicative of Woodward's general lack of experience in handling the transfer market. This summer I don't agree with the idea he was out of his depth at all. They signed multiple players very early in the window, held firm on DDG to Madrid until they received an offer they were amenable to with cash and a proven quality GK coming in return (obviously this ended bizarrely and I'd bet we have differing opinions over who's to blame) and if the reports are true we were interested and pursued Martial well before the end of the window. Monaco's president even said that we had made multiple bids for the player that Monaco turned down before accepting I believe.

Martial displaced Berbatov in the starting XI for Monaco. From the 2 matches I saw against Valencia he was their best player, particularly in the first leg in Valencia. He was an important part of the team that wasn't going to be sold until after their CL playoff. To be clear that's my opinion based on everything I've read and how and when the transfer took place.

Also to be clear I'm not saying Woodward or United's transfer window was perfect as I'd have liked to see them add a quality CB and a right sided attacking player on top of everything else. I simply feel that the Martial signing was fine and that the way the club handled the transfers of all other players that were added did not scream of desperation or poor management from Woodward and the club.

You have no proof and since their is no proof, my statement is more valid as their is no indicator that Chelsea matched our offer.

Everton bought Funes Mori, which indicated they had a replacement lineup if he left. They also scouted that young English center back that I can't recall his name, so they had several replacement lined up.

Martial displacing Berbatov is hardly something noteworthy. If you believe our transfer dealing does not scream poor management, you need to take of that red tinted glasses you have on. We bought Di Maria for a premier league record, then sold him after one season. We made Martial, who has not accomplish anything in his career the most expense teenager in football history, stacked up in midfield and now pushed two of our best midfielders last season in Herrera and Blind aside. We are still questionable in the attack and the defense and perhaps in goal if De Gea does not commit to United. That is poor management and negligence in the transfer window.

 

[AR87]

You have no proof and since their is no proof, my statement is more valid as their is no indicator that Chelsea matched our offer.

Everton bought Funes Mori, which indicated they had a replacement lineup if he left. They also scouted that young English center back that I can't recall his name, so they had several replacement lined up.

Martial displacing Berbatov is hardly something noteworthy. If you believe our transfer dealing does not scream poor management, you need to take of that red tinted glasses you have on. We bought Di Maria for a premier league record, then sold him after one season. We made Martial, who has not accomplish anything in his career the most expense teenager in football history, stacked up in midfield and now pushed two of our best midfielders last season in Herrera and Blind aside. We are still questionable in the attack and the defense and perhaps in goal if De Gea does not commit to United. That is poor management and negligence in the transfer window.

You're intentionally misrepresenting what I said. I clearly stated that our dealings last summer overall were poor. Moving on ADM this year was a result of that and is smart management of getting a decent fee for a player who didn't want to be here any longer and played like it. And no I don't need to take off any red tinted glasses if I think bringing in 3 starting XI caliber players entering their prime and strengthening our midfield on a net of £43m is good management.

Funes Mori is them strengthening a position of weakness. He wasn't brought in as a replacement for Stones, but rather as insurance for Heitinga whose level has dropped.

Lmao at your statement is more valid. Why? Because we both have zero proof of what happened and I choose to believe one set of reports while you're choosing another.

An 18 year old displacing Berbatov is noteworthy. Give me a break. Martial hasn't accomplished anything yet rumors have it that a number of the major European clubs were interested and Chelsea did make a bid earlier that was rejected. If United want to make him the most expensive teenager ever I don't see why it matters as long as the finances work for the club which they very much do. He's also starting for France which is another sign that he's more than just some raw talent even at 19.

De Gea not committing to United isn't Woodward's fault. That's a matter of DDG wanting to go back home and play for Real. If they had landed Navas and cash for DDG as was planned that's good business and I'm sure the club will address this next summer if/when DDG leaves.

Anyways you can keep pissing and moaning about the fee United paid Martial while City paid £49m for Sterling who is only viewed as some quality replacement because playing in the PL has given more exposure than Martial got at Monaco. I can only say that one of these players has actually performed well in the Champions League and it sure as hell hasn't been Raheem Sterling at this stage.

 

[Santiago_KinderBueno]

I have as much proof that Chelsea wanted to match the price for Martial as you do that they didn't. You seem to believe those supporting Chelsea's fiscal prudence, whereas I don't buy it based on their transfer dealings in the past and this summer.

Stones would not have been a Chelsea player because Everton was not interested in selling their best CB that late in the window without having a replacement lined up.

Net spend is pretty relevant. It's a lot more relevant than just saying we overpaid for Martial. Fine we overpaid for one player and got solid value on 4 others this summer in BFS, Schneiderlin, Darmian and Depay, all of whom are likely to be starting XI players for us this season and in the case of the latter 3 for the foreseeable likely for the foreseeable future. If you handle the majority of your business well then you can afford to spunk an absurd amount of money for a talent that was generating interest from most of Europe's top clubs.

We always landed the big fish with SAF and David Gill? Maybe more than not United did, but it surely wasn't every time. Chelsea's rise to prominence basically came by trumping United to a number of transfer targets and while I wasn't posting or reading here at the time I'd imagine that many here were desperately concerned over United's ability to compete in the transfer market.

Last summer I thought our dealings were indicative of Woodward's general lack of experience in handling the transfer market. This summer I don't agree with the idea he was out of his depth at all. They signed multiple players very early in the window, held firm on DDG to Madrid until they received an offer they were amenable to with cash and a proven quality GK coming in return (obviously this ended bizarrely and I'd bet we have differing opinions over who's to blame) and if the reports are true we were interested and pursued Martial well before the end of the window. Monaco's president even said that we had made multiple bids for the player that Monaco turned down before accepting I believe.

Martial displaced Berbatov in the starting XI for Monaco. From the 2 matches I saw against Valencia he was their best player, particularly in the first leg in Valencia. He was an important part of the team that wasn't going to be sold until after their CL playoff. To be clear that's my opinion based on everything I've read and how and when the transfer took place.

Also to be clear I'm not saying Woodward or United's transfer window was perfect as I'd have liked to see them add a quality CB and a right sided attacking player on top of everything else. I simply feel that the Martial signing was fine and that the way the club handled the transfers of all other players that were added did not scream of desperation or poor management from Woodward and the club.

Add to the fact that woodward can't see the future and the swansea defeat would have made us look more desperate than we actually were.

You dont go in to the end of august with one striker and suddenly get shocked about it after losing. If the prices went up because of this; it couldn't be helped sinse it took us 2 months to get rid of all our strikers anyway.

 

[Amadaeus]

You're intentionally misrepresenting what I said. I clearly stated that our dealings last summer overall were poor. Moving on ADM this year was a result of that and is smart management of getting a decent fee for a player who didn't want to be here any longer and played like it. And no I don't need to take off any red tinted glasses if I think bringing in 3 starting XI caliber players entering their prime and strengthening our midfield on a net of £43m is good management.

Funes Mori is them strengthening a position of weakness. He wasn't brought in as a replacement for Stones, but rather as insurance for Heitinga whose level has dropped.

Lmao at your statement is more valid. Why? Because we both have zero proof of what happened and I choose to believe one set of reports while you're choosing another.

An 18 year old displacing Berbatov is noteworthy. Give me a break. Martial hasn't accomplished anything yet rumors have it that a number of the major European clubs were interested and Chelsea did make a bid earlier that was rejected. If United want to make him the most expensive teenager ever I don't see why it matters as long as the finances work for the club which they very much do. He's also starting for France which is another sign that he's more than just some raw talent even at 19.

De Gea not committing to United isn't Woodward's fault. That's a matter of DDG wanting to go back home and play for Real. If they had landed Navas and cash for DDG as was planned that's good business and I'm sure the club will address this next summer if/when DDG leaves.

Anyways you can keep pissing and moaning about the fee United paid Martial while City paid £49m for Sterling who is only viewed as some quality replacement because playing in the PL has given more exposure than Martial got at Monaco. I can only say that one of these players has actually performed well in the Champions League and it sure as hell hasn't been Raheem Sterling at this stage.

You are just repeating what others are arguing and this is becoming repetitive to repeat over and over again my perspective against the justification towards the fee we paid for Martial. So, I will no longer comment on that as I have probably written a book by now about that situation and most of my point can be found in my previous post. The Sterling part is comical as once again I already explained how Sterling price is more justifiable and you can look it up in my previous post.

Berbatov was at an age that he will struggle to keep up with the pace of current football and has now been sold to a team to in Greece. It is not a noteworthy accomplishment. De Gea not committing to United is not Woodward fault, but having a below par replacement going into the season certainly is. We need to hope that De Gea head is not turned like it was in pre-season or else we would be left we more problems this season.

My statement is more valid because you are the one that claimed that Chelsea matched our offer for Martial and since their is no proof of that, it means it did not happen, which makes my statement more valid. On Everton, you mentioned Heitenga.....are we in the year 2000? When was the last time he played for Everton? Mori is not a replacement for Heitinga, but more of a competition for Jagelika and Stones, with a possible replacement for the latter had he left.

 

[AR87]

You are just repeating what others are arguing and this is becoming repetitive to repeat over and over again my perspective against the justification towards the fee we paid for Martial. So, I will no longer comment on that as I have probably written a book by now about that situation and most of my point can be found in my previous post. The Sterling part is comical as once again I already explained how Sterling price is more justifiable and you can look it up in my previous post.

Berbatov was at an age that he will struggle to keep up with the pace of current football and has now been sold to a team to in Greece. It is not a noteworthy accomplishment. De Gea not committing to United is not Woodward fault, but having a below par replacement going into the season certainly is. We need to hope that De Gea head is not turned like it was in pre-season or else we would be left we more problems this season.

My statement is more valid because you are the one that claimed that Chelsea matched our offer for Martial and since their is no proof of that, it means it did not happen, which makes my statement more valid. On Everton, you mentioned Heitenga.....are we in the year 2000? When was the last time he played for Everton? Mori is not a replacement for Heitinga, but more of a competition for Jagelika and Stones, with a possible replacement for the latter had he left.

Lol yeah I meant Jagielka. My fault there, but the point still stands he was brought in to strengthen a position where they lacked depth not as a replacement for Stones.

Being the best player for your club in a Champions League tie is a noteworthy accomplishment. There is a reason why major clubs across Europe were registering an interest in Martial.

No your statement isn't more valid no matter how many times you repeat that. It's all based on conjecture and it depends on what you choose to believe. The piece in the Sunday Times is a report stating that Chelsea were willing to match the fee and were upset they weren't given an opportunity to by Monaco for example.

I read what you said about Sterling and I don't agree. Martial has become a starter for France and he was starting for a CL club that beat Arsenal over 2 legs last year in which he played well. Sterling also did cost more than Martial so what's exactly the point here? If Sterling is better as you think then the fee paid for both still indicates that.

 

[Amadaeus]

Lol yeah I meant Jagielka. My fault there, but the point still stands he was brought in to strengthen a position where they lacked depth not as a replacement for Stones.

Being the best player for your club in a Champions League tie is a noteworthy accomplishment. There is a reason why major clubs across Europe were registering an interest in Martial.

No your statement isn't more valid no matter how many times you repeat that. It's all based on conjecture and it depends on what you choose to believe. The piece in the Sunday Times is a report stating that Chelsea were willing to match the fee and were upset they weren't given an opportunity to by Monaco for example.

I read what you said about Sterling and I don't agree. Martial has become a starter for France and he was starting for a CL club that beat Arsenal over 2 legs last year in which he played well. Sterling also did cost more than Martial so what's exactly the point here? If Sterling is better as you think then the fee paid for both still indicates that.

You are referring to the game against Valencia? He played well in that match and it really showcased his talent, but you can't base much credentials on some few games he did very well in. If that is the case, Welbeck performance against Bayern and Madrid should have landed him at Barcelona.

I rather believe rumors that backs up their claims with evidence, as such since the Sunday Times had none, their is not much to go by in regards to your statement.

Didn't Martial just win his first cap for France about three day ago? . He is barely a starter. The team that beat Arsenal, Martial was not one of the shining light and Bellerin had him in his pocket throughout the game. Carrisco, Kondogbia, their entire defense and maybe even Berbatov had better performances that day. Sterling point has already been stated, so go back and look at the previous discussion I had.

 

[Ramshock]

so people would prefer us not to have an exciting up and coming potential star in our team, but have more money in the bank? if so, do you look at United's bank account balance and gain joy from it?

Please dont try to reason with idiots.

 

[AR87]

You are referring to the game against Valencia? He played well in that match and it really showcased his talent, but you can't base much credentials on some few games he did very well in. If that is the case, Welbeck performance against Bayern and Madrid should have landed him at Barcelona.

I rather believe rumors that backs up their claims with evidence, as such since the Sunday Times had none, their is not much to go by in regards to your statement.

Didn't Martial just win his first cap for France about three day ago? . He is barely a starter. The team that beat Arsenal, Martial was not one of the shining light and Bellerin had him in his pocket throughout the game. Carrisco, Kondogbia, their entire defense and maybe even Berbatov had better performances that day. Sterling point has already been stated, so go back and look at the previous discussion I had.

Lol at this point I think we can just assume we won't see eye to eye on this. Either way though I think we can agree we'd like Martial to come good and be worth every penny of his transfer.

And yes he just earned his first cap so that point was poor. I still stand by the rest, but I don't think we're going anywhere except around in circles with this debate so whatever. I'm trying to enjoy my long weekend here in the US and I apparently am choosing to do that by nursing a hangover while debating about Anthony Martial lol.

 

[Dante]

so people would prefer us not to have an exciting up and coming potential star in our team, but have more money in the bank? if so, do you look at United's bank account balance and gain joy from it?

Well put.

 

[Amadaeus]

Lol at this point I think we can just assume we won't see eye to eye on this. Either way though I think we can agree we'd like Martial to come good and be worth every penny of his transfer.

And yes he just earned his first cap so that point was poor. I still stand by the rest, but I don't think we're going anywhere except around in circles with this debate so whatever. I'm trying to enjoy my long weekend here in the US and I apparently am choosing to do that by nursing a hangover while debating about Anthony Martial lol.

I think Martial will come good, but I do not believe he will be Suarez, Henry or Aguero level of striker like what some fans on here believe. He needs to have a season like Januzaj or better for me to start believing we have a genuine top class talent at United. Their is so many factors that can hinder his development that it is hard to predict how he will turn out. I do hope that we can see a front three of this someday

Januzaj - Martial - Depay

And these players can reach their potential at United, because a front three of the one above has a good balance and important traits to be lethal in the attack.

 

[RedRonaldo]

I think Martial will come good, but I do not believe he will be Suarez, Henry or Aguero level of striker like what some fans on here believe. He needs to have a season like Januzaj or better for me to start believing we have a genuine top class talent at United. Their is so many factors that can hinder his development that it is hard to predict how he will turn out. I do hope that we can see a front three of this someday

Januzaj - Martial - Depay

And these players can reach their potential at United, because a front three of the one above has a good balance and important traits to be lethal in the attack.

I hope this will be our future attack trio. All 3 of them have very high ceiling of potential. Potential alone doesn't make great player though, but let's hope they would progress as far as they could.

 

[devilish]

I think that the media is being very unfair with Martial

I meant more in Rooney's case. Obviously many players play well into their 30's but I can't see Rooney being one of them

Im afraid that the problem is more complex than Rooney. If that was the case than the likes of Chicarito or RVP would have been able to score we need, which isn't the case. In my opinion our issues lie more in our inability to move the ball forward quick enough, which in turn, allow opponents the time they need to organize themselves. May I remind you that this year we might have changed at least 3 out of a 5 men midfield (Depay, Schneiderlin and Bastian). Also Mata is playing on the flanks and Herrera is being utilized as an AMC. These changes will need time to bed in

 

[FCBarca]

so people would prefer us not to have an exciting up and coming potential star in our team, but have more money in the bank? if so, do you look at United's bank account balance and gain joy from it?

Gooners have for years

 

[RedDevil@84]

Gooners have for years

They have little choice as long as the Legendary Frenchman is at its helm who says "There izz no value in the market"...
Oh wait!! We are supposed to blame the owners and not the manager for everything bad.

 

[Sarni]

Since when being nearly 30 means you're old and useless?

On the flanks Martial will find more space to act and therefore he will be given more time to adapt. We'll have to extremely pacey wingers who both can cut inside and do some damage.

30 isn't that old and that useless but the longevity of players who start very early, and Rooney was 16 when he was already a regular in Premier League, is usually considerably lower and they seldom play well deep into their 30s. Fitness is an issue and Rooney is not the sort of player who tends to spend hours upon hours in the gym and keep a strict diet to carry himself well - at least that's what I have heard and assumed. If it's different then I will be pleased.

 

[United again!]

so people would prefer us not to have an exciting up and coming potential star in our team, but have more money in the bank? if so, do you look at United's bank account balance and gain joy from it?

Signing Martial is like getting a top of the line TV for every single cent you have, then sitting and having tea on the floor of your living room but telling everyone about how great your TV is while you're watching it.

 

[devilish]

30 isn't that old and that useless but the longevity of players who start very early, and Rooney was 16 when he was already a regular in Premier League, is usually considerably lower and they seldom play well deep into their 30s. Fitness is an issue and Rooney is not the sort of player who tends to spend hours upon hours in the gym and keep a strict diet to carry himself well - at least that's what I have heard and assumed. If it's different then I will be pleased.

There's no denying that Rooney is in decline. Having said that I have issues to what extent such decline is. If we take Rooney out of the issue, you'll notice that our team is struggling to create chances. In our first game it took us till 60mins to create our first shot on goal which is disturbing. Maybe that's the real issue rather than the rumours that RVP, Rooney and Chicarito has all suddenly became cack

 

[Litch]

Signing Martial is like getting a top of the line TV for every single cent you have, then sitting and having tea on the floor of your living room but telling everyone about how great your TV is while you're watching it.

We hardly had to either find the money down the back of the sofa or even had to sell it to pay for the TV....!!!

 

[Sarni]

Signing Martial is like getting a top of the line TV for every single cent you have, then sitting and having tea on the floor of your living room but telling everyone about how great your TV is while you're watching it.

It's not that way at all. We have a lot of money left for transfers I imagine, our net spend this year has been low.

 

[United again!]

We hardly had to either find the money down the back of the sofa or even had to sell it to pay for the TV....!!!

You buy the sofa and the cabinet, then you buy the great TV to watch. It was hardly the right conditions to put in a young player of his mould.

edit: @Sarni maybe my metaphor was clumsy. I meant you buy the sofa and the rug, then the coffee table before going all out and getting the tv. Otherwise you're without anything to sit there and admire your TV on. I fear he's going to be thrown to the wolves and if he does not swim then a lot of fans are going to wonder why we spent so much money.

That sword of failure swings pretty heavy imo. Hypothetically speaking of course. I want him to do well and I think he will get rapturous support from the fans. The circumstances are not ideal though.

 

[sincher]

I bet he scores against Serbia.

 

[Getsme]

Do you think we overpaid? If yes, give your reasons. If no, do the same.

Who cares, it's not our money.
If the club feel he is with x amount then so what. Get over it.

 

[Litch]

You buy the sofa and the cabinet, then you buy the great TV to watch. It was hardly the right conditions to put in a young player of his mould.

We already have them, and a long history of doing it well. The list is endless at Utd for developing young talent and equally LVG played a 17 year old lad in CL final.

 

[Getsme]

Signing Martial is like getting a top of the line TV for every single cent you have, then sitting and having tea on the floor of your living room but telling everyone about how great your TV is while you're watching it.

What a silly little post.

 

[izec]

Signing Martial is like getting a top of the line TV for every single cent you have, then sitting and having tea on the floor of your living room but telling everyone about how great your TV is while you're watching it.

 

[United again!]

Who cares, it's not our money.
If the club feel he is with x amount then so what. Get over it.

Yeah but we only have one recognized striker? And he can barely play the role that we're trying to use him in. Surely you've factored the unusual reasoning into why we watched the club spend an outrageous amount of money for someone with little pedigree? And have an opinion, rather than the club can do what it wants? ie. Probably the wrong thing? Since they, you know.. Have only one recognized striker and probably buying another recognized backup player was a much more sensible thing to do?

 

[Getsme]

Yeah but we only have one recognized striker? And he can barely play the role that we're trying to use him in. Surely you've factored the unusual reasoning into why we watched the club spend an outrageous amount of money for someone with little pedigree? And have an opinion, rather than the club can do what it wants? ie. Probably the wrong thing? Since they, you know.. Have only one recognized striker and probably buying another recognized backup player was a much more sensible thing to do?

And that's his problem?
Plus, you have no idea what role he can or will play in the team.

 

[United again!]

And that's his problem?
Plus, you have no idea what role he can or will play in the team.

Nobody has said that it is his problem? Mainly that it was not the best idea from the club, I mean.. By all means defend the player but I have not seen anyone personally saying we should have not bought him because he'll be a crap player or he isn't good enough. But more to do with the fact that you line your nest with the right players before you lay the egg and sit on it.

 

[Annihilate Now!]

Who cares, it's not our money.
If the club feel he is with x amount then so what. Get over it.

That's not technically true - they have a grand of my money every year.

I'm not saying we shouldn't have spent it on Martial (though I think the fee is a bit high) - and I generally trust in the club that they spend wisely (my main concern is that we'll be placing too much pressure on the lad, as we need him to deliver this season if Rooney doesn't shape up) ... but I don't think it's fair to say "it's not our money" ... 40 or so thousand people give their money every single year to United.

 

[Getsme]

Nobody has said that it is his problem? Mainly that it was not the best idea from the club, I mean.. By all means defend the player but I have not seen anyone personally saying we should have not bought him because he'll be a crap player or he isn't good enough. But more to do with the fact that you line your nest with the right players before you lay the egg and sit on it.

Nobody may have said its his problem yet many posts have brought it up when talking about him, unfortunately they will use it as a stick to beat him with if he doesn't perform from the off. I'd expect it from outsiders but the fact our own "fans" will use it as well is pathetic.

We really are turning into Moanchester United.
Spend money - Why are we wasting so much money.
Don't spend money - Fecking Glazers.
Buy a experienced player - We are losing our identity.
Buy young players - Why aren't we buying experience.
Manchester United don't buy a certain player - We are embarrassing.
Manchester United buy a player - Why didn't we buy X instead, embarrassing.
Manchester United over spend - Why are we so shit at transfers.
Manchester United refuse to overspend - Fecking Glazers.
I could go on.

 

[Getsme]

That's not technically true - they have a grand of my money every year.

I'm not saying we shouldn't have spent it on Martial (though I think the fee is a bit high) - and I generally trust in the club that they spend wisely (my main concern is that we'll be placing too much pressure on the lad, as we need him to deliver this season if Rooney doesn't shape up) ... but I don't think it's fair to say "it's not our money" ... 40 or so thousand people give their money every single year to United.

They offer you a service in return for that money, it may have been your money at one time but as soon as you exchange it for something then it is no longer your money.

 

[United again!]

Nobody may have said its his problem yet many posts have brought it up when talking about him, unfortunately they will use it as a stick to beat him with if he doesn't perform from the off. I'd expect it from outsiders but the fact our own "fans" will use it as well is pathetic.

We really are turning into Moanchester United.
Spend money - Why are we wasting so much money.
Don't spend money - Fecking Glazers.
Buy a experienced player - We are losing our identity.
Buy young players - Why aren't we buying experience.
Manchester United don't buy a certain player - We are embarrassing.
Manchester United buy a player - Why didn't we buy X instead, embarrassing.
Manchester United over spend - Why are we so shit at transfers.
Manchester United refuse to overspend - Fecking Glazers.
I could go on.

Please don't. It is about making sensible buys. The club started off doing that in the window and with squad not really complete, it wasn't really the time to splash out on a youngster and throw him to the wolves.

 

[Raptori]

You buy the sofa and the cabinet, then you buy the great TV to watch. It was hardly the right conditions to put in a young player of his mould.

edit: @Sarni maybe my metaphor was clumsy. I meant you buy the sofa and the rug, then the coffee table before going all out and getting the tv. Otherwise you're without anything to sit there and admire your TV on. I fear he's going to be thrown to the wolves and if he does not swim then a lot of fans are going to wonder why we spent so much money.

That sword of failure swings pretty heavy imo. Hypothetically speaking of course. I want him to do well and I think he will get rapturous support from the fans. The circumstances are not ideal though.

What a post. I guess Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Darmian, Memphis, and Romero aren't important additions to the team. No holes covered there, certainly not three of the biggest problem areas we've had in recent years.

 

[Getsme]

Please don't. It is about making sensible buys. The club started off doing that in the window and with squad not really complete, it wasn't really the time to splash out on a youngster and throw him to the wolves.

How do you know he's not a sensible buy, he hasn't even kicked a ball for us yet.

 

[Getsme]

What a post. I guess Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Darmian, Memphis, and Romero aren't important additions to the team. No holes covered there, certainly not three of the biggest problem areas we've had in recent years.

We bought them early on in the transfer window so they don't count.

 

[United again!]

What a post. I guess Schweinsteiger, Schneiderlin, Darmian, Memphis, and Romero aren't important additions to the team. No holes covered there, certainly not three of the biggest problem areas we've had in recent years.

We have one recognized striker. Marital would be one of the other two under 20's strikers in the squad. I think you misinterpreted my metaphor.

 

[MDFC Manager]

Nobody may have said its his problem yet many posts have brought it up when talking about him, unfortunately they will use it as a stick to beat him with if he doesn't perform from the off. I'd expect it from outsiders but the fact our own "fans" will use it as well is pathetic.

We really are turning into Moanchester United.
Spend money - Why are we wasting so much money.
Don't spend money - Fecking Glazers.
Buy a experienced player - We are losing our identity.
Buy young players - Why aren't we buying experience.
Manchester United don't buy a certain player - We are embarrassing.
Manchester United buy a player - Why didn't we buy X instead, embarrassing.
Manchester United over spend - Why are we so shit at transfers.
Manchester United refuse to overspend - Fecking Glazers.
I could go on.

 

[Raptori]

We bought them early on in the transfer window so they don't count.

Ahh, good point!

We have one recognized striker.

And two prospects ready for first team experience, and several other players who can play there as cover. Sure, it'd have been great to sign a top class striker this summer to plug that gap, but in the grand sceme of things it wasn't a massive issue.

The argument that we've not improved the squad massively this summer is ludicrous - if we had signed Messi as our new striker, some people would still say we had a shit window and didn't plug our massive squad holes at CB and RW.

 

[Litch]

Nobody may have said its his problem yet many posts have brought it up when talking about him, unfortunately they will use it as a stick to beat him with if he doesn't perform from the off. I'd expect it from outsiders but the fact our own "fans" will use it as well is pathetic.

We really are turning into Moanchester United.
Spend money - Why are we wasting so much money.
Don't spend money - Fecking Glazers.
Buy a experienced player - We are losing our identity.
Buy young players - Why aren't we buying experience.
Manchester United don't buy a certain player - We are embarrassing.
Manchester United buy a player - Why didn't we buy X instead, embarrassing.
Manchester United over spend - Why are we so shit at transfers.
Manchester United refuse to overspend - Fecking Glazers.
I could go on.

Absolutely spot on. The irony of it is this was absolutely the same under SAF reign. So called fans will excuse anything once we are not losing. Swansea defeat and an avalanche of Moanchester Utd fans. Wonder where were they after the Liverpool, Spurs and city games?

 

[United again!]

And two prospects ready for first team experience, and several other players who can play there as cover. Sure, it'd have been great to sign a top class striker this summer to plug that gap, but in the grand sceme of things it wasn't a massive issue.

The argument that we've not improved the squad massively this summer is ludicrous - if we had signed Messi as our new striker, some people would still say we had a shit window and didn't plug our massive squad holes at CB and RW.

That wasn't my argument, that has never been my argument. My argument has always been "it is probably better to have one recognized striker and one backup striker before splashing serious cash on young players". If Rooney gets injured we'll be down to fielding Wilson and or Martial (before we get to silly options like Fellaini etc).

I didn't mean a star striker signing, I meant at least a legitimate backup player in between the young players being thrown to the dogs. Considering the majority of the caf can't even handle Rooney up front and think he's shite.. It makes it even more odd.