Manchester United refuse to launch female team

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This article absolute garbage, saying were blocking progress of womens football

Manchester United have been accused of undermining the progress of women's football by steadfastly refusing to launch a female team of their own.

With women's football around the world on a high after the success of the recent World Cup where England came third, United have indicated they have no plans to follow Manchester City, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool by establishing a women's side.

This apparent lack of interest from a club seen as trendsetters in so many other areas of the game has left United open to accusations of indifference at a time when more and more girls and young women are showing interest in the sport.

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Manchester United have been accused of undermining the progress of women's football after the World Cup

WHO HAS A WOMEN'S TEAM?
18 - the number of Premier League sides who also have a women’s team — with Manchester United and Southampton the only exceptions

A spokesperson for campaign group Women in Sport said: 'In the current climate, it is barely comprehensible that one of the world's most recognisable football teams still refuses to properly engage with women's football.

'Time and again, the country's elite female footballers have demonstrated their abilities on the domestic and world stage, and the progress made on and off the field in women's football has been a real success story for the UK.

'These successes run the risk of being dangerously undermined when institutions such as Manchester United fail to show their support.


'We hope that the club and its directors will urgently reconsider their position on women's football and seize the opportunity to become part of women's football's development, rather than a barrier in its path.'

Senior executives at Old Trafford are aware of the pressure on the club to set up a women's team. United used to have one and still run teams at youth level but the senior side was disbanded in 2005.

On United's recent tour of the USA, senior United figures were tackled on the issue but would only say that there were no plans to review their stance.

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Barbara Keeley, who is a local Manchester MP and co-chairs the All Party Parliamentary Group on Women's Sport and Fitness, wrote to David Moyes when he was United manager in 2013 after a fan petition urging executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward to change their stance gained more than 4,000 signatures.

She said: 'The reply I got from the club was that the matter was under review but there seems to have been no further progress.

'It is very hard to understand why Manchester United are still not prepared to re-instate a women's football team.'

Sports minister Tracey Crouch added: 'It is incredibly disappointing that one of the biggest clubs in the world doesn't have a ladies' football team.'

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Women's football has been on the rise, particularly following the World Cup in Canada



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I didn't even realize other clubs had women teams. Are they taken seriously in England? Genuine question as clearly not much is said about them.
 
Can the OP please copy and paste the article, i refuse to give that shithouse of a paper any of my precious clicks.
 
Undermining the progress of the women's game. What a crock of shit.
 
It's a no news story but I have to say it is disappointing that we don't have a woman's team. Not that I agree with what is stated in the article, it's just general hyperbole journalism. But womans football is growing in popularity and it would be great to see a ladies team. I'm sure many girls from Manchester feel the exact same.
 
ChaddyP said:
I didn't even realize other clubs had women teams. Are they taken seriously in England? Genuine question as clearly not much is said about them.
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They're not. They have a small audience but new media is pushing really hard for it. Something about equality/sexism or whatever. BBC is trying their best by giving priority coverage to women's sports (they're covering women's Ashes as much as they did men's). I'm not against it per se, but it does feel like it's pandering a little bit. Women's sports will never be as popular as men's no matter how much they try and force it on us. Sports fans want to see the pinnacle, they want the best - the fastest, the strongest, the most powerful. I can't be made to care. I tried with the women's World Cup and found it to be really boring.

As for the lack of Man Utd women's team, I really feel that very few people really care. Like women won't support United until there's a women's team? Or is it the worst crime in the world to deny a handful of women footballers the chance to play in a United shirt that hardly anyone will watch anyway. I'm not against it or anything, but I don't think it's a problem if we don't have one. It's probably about money for us, the logistics of setting it up and hosting games means we wouldn't see much of a return.
 
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It would be nice for those women who play and dream of playing for United to have a womens team to play for though. Im pretty sure there was a womans team before (remember one of my friends saying she wished she could play for them before an injury meant she stopped playing)
 
Rolandofgilead said:
Can the OP please copy and paste the article, i refuse to give that shithouse of a paper any of my precious clicks.
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I wish I knew how to copy and paste links like others do, its only thing ive tried but to no avail. I cant copy and paste, as it includes the sidebars, and all pictures, dont know what will happen
 
El Zoido said:
They're not. They have a small audience but new media is pushing really hard for it. Something about equality/sexism or whatever. BBC is trying their best by giving priority coverage to women's sports (they're covering women's Ashes as much as they did men's). I'm not against it per se, but it does feel like it's pandering a little bit. Women's sports will never be as popular as men's no matter how much they try and force it on us. Sports fans want to see the pinnacle, they want the best - the fastest, the strongest, the most powerful. I can't be made to care. I tried with the women's World Cup and found it to be really boring.

As for the lack of Man Utd women's team, I really feel that very few people really care. Like women won't support United until there's a women's team? Or is it the worst crime in the world to deny a handful of women footballers the chance to play in a United shirt that hardly anyone will watch anyway.
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I agree, it really feels like they are trying too hard to force something that few are interested in. I have to be careful with my words as i dont want to upset anyone. I just really dont think the level is good enough to even try to care and watch. Maybe one day it will, that would be great for the sport. Thats probably why they are trying to push the clubs to start a womans team. But maybe more should be done at a grass roots level to ensure the sport grows from that point . I love womens tennis, actually more than mens, the level is up there. Womens football for me is just tedious to watch. That is what needs to change for me. Forcing united to Have a womens team doesnt seem the answer to me.
 
Sylar said:
It would be nice for those women who play and dream of playing for United to have a womens team to play for though. Im pretty sure there was a womans team before (remember one of my friends saying she wished she could play for them before an injury meant she stopped playing)
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Yeah, we used to have one. Glazers scrapped it.

We still have girls teams. They have to go to other clubs, when they get older, though.
 
What brought on this story is a bit confusing as there have been no recent developments.

United disbanded their women's team in 2005 to 'focus on youth', and are asked about starting another one up every now and again, to which they either give straight nos or non-answers. They were asked on the tour in the US and they said no again.

So did anything bring this story on?
 
So, why don't United form the ladies team? and why was it disbanded?
 
They are really forcing women football down peoples throats, especially with Womens world cup,its as a poster said, people only want to see the biggest, fastest and the best players

Hence you wont see people queuing to see League 2 football
 
Surprised we don't have a women's team tbh. Probably should if nearly all the other clubs have one. We're Manchester United after all, without us women's football is missing a massive brand. Sort of thing I'd have thought we'd be all over.
 
It is odd we don't have a women's team despite the general feeling in this thread.

It's strange a great club like Manchester United doesn't compete.
 
ChaddyP said:
I didn't even realize other clubs had women teams. Are they taken seriously in England? Genuine question as clearly not much is said about them.
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no one really gave a shit until quite recently - but the womens game is getting quite a lot of coverage over here now (in fact some would say a disproportionate amount given the amount of people who actually attend games)
 
Minimalist said:
It is odd we don't have a women's team despite the general feeling in this thread.

It's strange a great club like Manchester United doesn't compete.
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It is odd and we should have one. I can only imagine we don't think we can make money off of it. Sad if that's the case but I don't know why else we wouldn't.
 
It's sexist of Manchester United not to patronizingly set up a womans team under the guise of the male teams that have made the name successful?

Why should there be womens versions of male teams? Why can't women establish their own teams? I am in no way disrespecting womens football here, I just think that I would have much more respect for a club called Manchester Ladies Football Club who made their own way, than I would for one which is leaching off the success of another club in the name of equality.

Sexual equality is about equality. Not handouts.
 
sullydnl said:
Surprised we don't have a women's team tbh. Probably should if nearly all the other clubs have one. We're Manchester United after all, without us women's football is missing a massive brand. Sort of thing I'd have thought we'd be all over.
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If there was money to made from it, no doubt we'd be all over it.

No money = no interest, it seems.
 
I remember stumbling across a petition regarding this (addressed to Moyes, funnily enough), and not much fuss was made about it. But not having a women's team should not be equated to halting the progress of the female side of the sport. If Utd remakes the Ladies' side just to insert them as a token team in the women's league without actually investing or caring, it would be worse than not having a team.

The petition: https://www.change.org/p/mr-david-m...blish-a-womens-football-team-at-man-united-fc
 
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The things I would say about women football would think I am sexist, so I will not delve to deeply into this topic, all I will say about womens football, who cares? some may care, its just a meh
 
ChaddyP said:
I didn't even realize other clubs had women teams. Are they taken seriously in England? Genuine question as clearly not much is said about them.
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I think the big point here which most people dont yet get is that the people taking womens and girls football seriously are women and girls. Around the world it is basically the fastest growing female team sport there is. I would love Utd to have a womans team but what is important to note is that Utd do have girls and womens youth sides, just no senior side so the idea that Utd is holding back womens development is daft.

The people who take womens football seriously are the women and girls involved at the playing level and all their immediate supporters. The trouble is that the people who belittle womens football for the quality of football etc are doing it from a perception of comparing it to the male game.

I dont think Womens football will ever be as big or of the same quality as the mens game. However what is important is the impact girls and womens football has not only on girls and women but on the social side of football. 30 years ago there were virtually no women or girls attending football games and for those of us who played at even a decent level of the amateur game there were very very few women at the clubrooms after games. Now we have our youth players who are able to socialise with girls who are playing, relate to them on a footballing level and from there its a far more enjoyable and healthy social setting at grassroots clubs. There is a massive benefit to all with the growth of girls and womens football. The majority of objection or belittling of womens football comes from those fans who dont play, have never played and are only ever watching the very top level of football. Sadly those fans have lost or never had any connection to grassroots football.
 
Oneunited26 said:
The things I would say about women football would think I am sexist, so I will not delve to deeply into this topic, all I will say about womens football, who cares? some may care, its just a meh
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Girls and women care.

What you have said says more about you as a person than it does about girls and womens football.
 
Shane88 said:
If there was money to made from it, no doubt we'd be all over it.

No money = no interest, it seems.
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Even just from the PR point of view you'd think we'd be interested. Someone has to win their league, it might as well be Manchester United.
 
Women's teams needn't be reliant on existing men's team, that's the point that the supposed feminists are missing. Bristol has a ladies team in the PL and it's no longer affiliated to Rovers or City it's affiliated to a sports college - and Barnet Ladies recently became independent from Barnet FC and rebranded as London Bees. If male clubs want to have a ladies team too that's fine and dandy but ladies football shouldn't be reliant on that support - and in fact in the long run would be better off having their own identities rather than leaching off the men's game. The attempted shaming of mens clubs who don't have a ladies team is disgusting. If the women's game needs more funding then find other resources, you can't just expect businesses to help you out because you want them to.

If there is enough demand for a second female team in Manchester then bloody create one - get the funding from whatever sources are available and create a new brand. It's as if people think there can only be female versions of male teams. Ironically, if the women's game managed to develop a host of independent teams that became successful and profitable, more men's clubs would then be interested and then the feminazi's would be raging about how unfair it is for men's clubs to encroach on the women's game.
 
Rowem said:
Women's teams needn't be reliant on existing men's team, that's the point that the supposed feminists are missing. Bristol has a ladies team in the PL and it's no longer affiliated to Rovers or City it's affiliated to a sports college - and Barnet Ladies recently became independent from Barnet FC and rebranded as London Bees. If male clubs want to have a ladies team too that's fine and dandy but ladies football shouldn't be reliant on that support - and in fact in the long run would be better off having their own identities rather than leaching off the men's game. The attempted shaming of mens clubs who don't have a ladies team is disgusting. If the women's game needs more funding then find other resources, you can't just expect businesses to help you out because you want them to.

If there is enough demand for a second female team in Manchester then bloody create one - get the funding from whatever sources are available and create a new brand. It's as if people think there can only be female versions of male teams. Ironically, if the women's game managed to develop a host of independent teams that became successful and profitable, more men's clubs would then be interested and then the feminazi's would be raging about how unfair it is for men's clubs to encroach on the women's game.
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You are kind of missing the whole point really. You are too busy concentrating on "supposed feminists" and "femnazis" to see the wood for the trees.
 
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