A few people here need more hobbies.
That said, a good keeper is punching that out, possibly launching a Villa player with it.
Manchester United 2:2 Steven Gerrard's Villa (Sat 23rd July, 10:45 UK time)
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A few people here need more hobbies.
That said, a good keeper is punching that out, possibly launching a Villa player with it.
The only cowards I see is people on here blaming De Gea for every little thing, give your heads a wobble ffs.
That last goal was on thew defence as a whole, not just the keeper.
Not taking much from that in either half really. Pitch was a disgrace.
I genuinely can’t believe the meltdown…even by this places standards. It was a bog of a pitch which significantly worsened 2nd half, we had Alex Telles playing central midfield and Steven Gerrard pumping them up like it was the World Cup final. Calm down you utter lunatics 
Anyone else a bit worried about Donny, just doesn't feel like it's going to work at this club. I admittedly didn't see much of him at Ajax but he came very highly rated yet when he is on the pitch it's as if he isn't there. I saw nothing at all from him again today and most of his games in a United shirt have been like this.
Overall a very scrappy game due to a terrible pitch. Looking forward to seeing the squad back at Carrington with the new signings.
Overall a very scrappy game due to a terrible pitch. Looking forward to seeing the squad back at Carrington with the new signings.
With the silly goals he has conceded in this tour, there is a serious cause for concern. He needs the kind of kick in the arse that LVG gave him in the early stages of the 2015-16 season.
It's not just pre-season though, he's been like this for years, this isn't a one off.
What this game showed is that we're still capable of falling apart when put under pressure. Game completely changed after Bailey's goal and Villa dominated.
Back to the FDJ thread with you!
Our best eleven were head and shoulders better than their best eleven. What happened second half after ten subs isn't even worth thinking about.
We're getting minimum top 4 next season and a cup.
We're getting minimum top 4 next season and a cup.
He's yet to look convicing since arriving at United.
Result isn't important, and I don't think you can judge much from that game because the conditions were a joke. The only time those players will play on a pitch like that is an fa Cup game against far weaker opponents.
The front four have looked really promising all tour, pressing well as a unit and martial linking play has been a real positive. Both full backs and central midfielders making forward runs is also refreshing. Finally a manager that takes risks in the right areas and demands more from the players.
The front four have looked really promising all tour, pressing well as a unit and martial linking play has been a real positive. Both full backs and central midfielders making forward runs is also refreshing. Finally a manager that takes risks in the right areas and demands more from the players.
I think defending set pieces is going to be a problem this season. We do not have enough players who are good at this.
Game deteriorated with the pitch, Villa made the better of the conditions by upping the intensity in the second half knowing that there would be more sloppy touches and misplaced passes to take advantage of and then they went more direct in behind our fullbacks which caused us some problems. They definitely looked more "up for it" then we did.
He definitely won’t get it by ducking
I think they need less hobbies, and should watch more football.
Dominated against our second string? Why is this even a concern?
Good in the 1st half. The opposite in the 2nd.
2-2 feels fair.
Just glad nobody got injured.
2-2 feels fair.
Just glad nobody got injured.
The choice is either shout at De Gea with confirmation bias or recognise that Varane marking him just let Chambers walk away, but we have to keep up the pretence that he’s world class and being held back so De Gea bashing it is
Are people being mad after this result in a preseason match?
It's mental. The last few pages have been cringe has feck. A nice reminder of why I avoid matchday threads though. Glad I remembered that lesson now and not during the season. I guess that's what preseason is for though...
Shocking.
Things don't bode well for Villa though, we let them back into the game but their level was very low. Commentators were mentioning a top half finish but I've a sneaking suspicion they'll be in a relegation scrap.
That's the takeaway from that game honestly.
At this rate, they are not even getting a bid on Cash in the Attic!
Ffs what the actual feck is that from De Gea? Weak as feck
Basic stats
1st half
Goals - United 2 Villa 0
Shots - United 5 Villa 1
On Target - United 3 Villa 0
2nd half
Goals - United 0 Villa 2
Shots - United 1 Villa 7
On Target - United 0 Villa 3
1st half
Goals - United 2 Villa 0
Shots - United 5 Villa 1
On Target - United 3 Villa 0
2nd half
Goals - United 0 Villa 2
Shots - United 1 Villa 7
On Target - United 0 Villa 3
Bit more experience in there to hold on to the ball when we had the chance is what was needed at the end, but as has been said least ETH is seeing this in pre season so he can rectify.
I am trying hard not to draw conclusions, but I can’t unsee Donny’s performance of nothingness.
I think Garner is the only younger player who has a chance of coming into the first team - but not in the starting 11, on the bench.
so true. It's mainly folk who have been silent during our other preseason games where we've performed really well, and now they're over the moon that they can complain.If Ten Hag and the players have shown anything this preseason it's that they can get things right if they're coached properly. The set piece mistakes will be trained out of them in the coming days and weeks. We'll keep improving. Calm the feck down.
On a good pitch our first team would've been out of sight by the time the changes were made. At the same time it's a good reminder that we need more squad depth and hopefully we can get a couple more signings over the line.
De Gea: someone need to learn him how to get out and get the ball when it is kicked in from the sides. It is still one of his weaknesses
Lindelöf:Sorry, but he is just not good enough. Just the fact that he is trying to cover the right foot of a player that is lefty is a big concern (at the Goal), and shouldn’t happen for a player at this level
Telles: played in DM, not a known position, was often too late or behind the player. He doesn’t have a future for us
Fred: really good at moments but still makes passing mistakes when he playa too deep and isn’t strong enough physically to cover the ball. He is definitely not a 6 (DM)
Sancho: this will be his year. He is really good and improving from game to game
Garner: a pity he couldn’t play more during preseason. He is good, you can see he knows how to play DM. Looking forward to see more of him
Iqbal: continues to surprise me. He should have a spot in the team. Is for me better than VdB and has a significantly higher potential than McTonibay
Lindelöf:Sorry, but he is just not good enough. Just the fact that he is trying to cover the right foot of a player that is lefty is a big concern (at the Goal), and shouldn’t happen for a player at this level
Telles: played in DM, not a known position, was often too late or behind the player. He doesn’t have a future for us
Fred: really good at moments but still makes passing mistakes when he playa too deep and isn’t strong enough physically to cover the ball. He is definitely not a 6 (DM)
Sancho: this will be his year. He is really good and improving from game to game
Garner: a pity he couldn’t play more during preseason. He is good, you can see he knows how to play DM. Looking forward to see more of him
Iqbal: continues to surprise me. He should have a spot in the team. Is for me better than VdB and has a significantly higher potential than McTonibay
Delighted we didn't win. A perfect pre season always ends in disaster once the season starts, its like a jinx.
Hard to say really, in conditions like that you can't really make any assumptions.
They've made a few good signings, Leon bailey looks to be the business.
Always disappointing to concede in the last second, especially from a set-piece in our case.
I doubt we'd have conceded their first goal had Martinez been in the side instead of Lindelof. As for the equaliser, we all know De Gea is extremely poor in set-pieces, so it's nothing new really.
Hard to make any other conclusions given the horrendous pitch and weather.
We really do lack quality in depth in attack, though. You can see the changes Villa made changed the game, whereas we did not have anyone of the necessary quality on the bench to provide something new.
Ten Hag is right that we badly need another midfielder and an attacker.
Excited to see Martinez and Eriksen against Atletico.
I doubt we'd have conceded their first goal had Martinez been in the side instead of Lindelof. As for the equaliser, we all know De Gea is extremely poor in set-pieces, so it's nothing new really.
Hard to make any other conclusions given the horrendous pitch and weather.
We really do lack quality in depth in attack, though. You can see the changes Villa made changed the game, whereas we did not have anyone of the necessary quality on the bench to provide something new.
Ten Hag is right that we badly need another midfielder and an attacker.
Excited to see Martinez and Eriksen against Atletico.
I disagree on Chong. I thought he was poor. Holds on the ball for too long. Indecisive and making poor decisions.
He needs more chances. Ole and Ralf just refused to play him.
Garner looked very composed second half. Still think he’s not there yet physically.
OK first half, nice moves for both goals. Moved the ball quick and committed numbers forward. Sancho was good, martial and rashford neat and tidy.
The midfield hole was evident but that's nothing new
Second half was poor. Villa ramped up the aggression and Bailey was a big threat but they didn't have too many chances. We had one or two decent breaks let down by poor decisions
Pitch was an absolute shocker so I'm just glad no one was injured
The midfield hole was evident but that's nothing new
Second half was poor. Villa ramped up the aggression and Bailey was a big threat but they didn't have too many chances. We had one or two decent breaks let down by poor decisions
Pitch was an absolute shocker so I'm just glad no one was injured