To be fair, only a quarter want him to stay. And it's probably the usual nervous Nellies.
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Alonso managed Real Sociedad B for 3 years before taking over Leverkusen, Guardiola managed Barcelona B before taking control of the best team ever, it's not a huge requirement. He's shown incredible tactical ability at Ipswich, he's already experienced with coaching our team, the main priority is getting recruitment right, if we do then I'm sure he'll flourish.
Luis Enrique but he isn’t an option
We already want to wrestle Berrada & Ashworth from oil clubs. Why not make it 3/3
We already want to wrestle Berrada & Ashworth from oil clubs. Why not make it 3/3
Its not insignificant in that INEOS could well be thinking "there are no high quality managers available, so lets stick with Ten Hag for another year". That would basically invite more terrible transfers this summer and result in more mediocrity next year. Hopefully SJR has a broader vision than that.
Alonso would me my choice, but I think he is unrealistic.
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Maybe as fanbase, we deserve all the misery we get.
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Maybe as fanbase, we deserve all the misery we get.Unrealistic:
Alonso, Ange, Nagelsmann
Realistic:
Motta, Tuchel, Mckenna
Alonso, Ange, Nagelsmann
Realistic:
Motta, Tuchel, Mckenna
Out of the realistic options it's McKenna or Frank for me. Wouldn't mind Tuchel too but I have a feeling we only see him as a short term fix and I think Bayern are going to push hard to keep him now anyway.
True, but I'm sure there are many more B team managers who went on to flop after getting promoted to bigger jobs. Therefore that shouldn't be the determining factor in looking for a new manager. What should be the determining factor is whether they have consistently won (by way of overall winning percentage) at big clubs over the past 5-10 years. Have they won leagues and CLs along the way ? Do they possess the gumption to excel at the very highest levels ?
Alonso would me my choice, but I think he is unrealistic.
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It's surprising but he is not winning the poll. Only 24.5% want him next season and more than 3 times that (75.5%) want someone else.
Depressing list 
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.McKenna hype is funny.
He is winning the poll though. Call it majority instead of plurality if you wish, but from all managers, he is the one with most votes.
I guess a big difference with those two is that they already carried a level of aura and respect based on their playing career.
McKenna is different there as well. He's not just comparatively inexperience management wise compared to some of the other choices, he has no decorated playing career to help him gain immediate respect either.
I'd love him to work out, and would be as happy for us to go for him as some of the other gambles on that list, but I can see his lack of top flight management or playing calibre potentially being an issue at a huge club - in comparison to the likes of Alonso and Guardiola in their first jobs.
Exactly this.
Went for Ten Hag given the alternative on there is Tuchel or McKenna
In regards to Tuchel, I don't like the idea of hiring managers that have been sacked from rival clubs, it's a personal preference. He's also been sacked from his last 4 jobs, it feels quite similar to when we hired Mourinho, a reactive short term decision that could prove costly in the long run. Having a coach that won't let his ego get in the way during this transition period would be ideal, and McKenna fits the bill there too.
More voted for sacchi, Frank, Southgate than Poch
Potentially, but respect is earned. If he makes the right choices tactically, rotates properly, keeps players happy and uses common sense during games, the players will sense that and over time, through success, his playing career won't matter. Our squad is very youthful, Fernandes, Martinez and Shaw will be good role models and set the tone, the only question mark is Rashford, and he could be on his way out anyway.
I think the likeliest outcome is that Ten Hag stays or we get Potter. We’ve missed out on Nagelsmann, Tuchel, Motta, etc. makes me think we never really wanted a new manager in the first place or that someone that’s always been available has already been secured (Potter)
Have we missed out on Tuchel? Both he and Bayern directors recently said that he's definitely not staying recently.
The McKenna brigade is strange. He's still very young and it's obvious to everyone that he won't be chosen as the United manager just based on his achievements until now but they're out in full force. The normal step is to go to a club like West Ham or Brighton, do a good job and be in line for the United job.
De Zerbi on the other hand shows how fickle football fans can be. They sold so many players and went through a pretty bad injury crisis that it seems strange to blame the manager for their woes this season. I think they'll make some decent signings in the summer and look competitive again next year.
I never wavered througout although I think his position is under serius pressure
but I want ETH again next season
but I want ETH again next season
It's always like this. As soon as we win a match, everyone seems to go quiet and soften their position on him. Until the next defeat. And then he's the worst manager in the PL againEtH winning the poll
Not that I'm foaming at the mouth for him to go myself. It's just what I've observed on here and online.
Yeah I agree. Honestly props to INEOS if they can weather the media criticism and stick to their guns. Woodward days it would've been an interim manager already followed by a guy like Tuchel.
Quite a few things changed - there was a player lead campaign to keep him around with Neuer and Muller apparently pushing for it. Looking the most likely that he'll stay there unfortunately.
Noticable only 24% want Ten Hag to stayAlonso would me my choice, but I think he is unrealistic.
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More numbers:
Winning Percentage by Manager - going back a max of 10 years and excluding B team roles.
Tuchel - 64.75
Ten Hag - 60.33
Amorim - 74
Potter - 37
Southgate - 61.3
Frank - 43.21
McKenna - 57.25
De Zerbi - 37.6
Motta - 31.6
Mourinho - 54.4
Pochettino - 56.58
Alonso - 66.67
Zidane - 65.5
This poll is a hypothetical but I think many voted for who they think will be here or who they want to be here based on the rumored replacements. I'm ETH out but, if it's down to ETH out with one of Southgate, Potter, or Tuchel replacing him, I'd rather we continue with ETH for next season.
I voted Alonso because I know it ain't happening.
Hmm fair enough, we'll see what happens.
In Ten Hag we trust.
It's not even about whether Ten Hag is capable anymore. I genuinly think he is very capable, 3 finals in 2 years is pretty good.
The issue is, he's lost the chaging room and theres too much bad blood between him and some players. They will just refuse to give their best under him and you cant force them.
If could give him a completly new squad, would he do well, im sure of it - but that isnt realistic, so we'll need a fresh face and at least 1/3 of that team gone this summer.
The issue is, he's lost the chaging room and theres too much bad blood between him and some players. They will just refuse to give their best under him and you cant force them.
If could give him a completly new squad, would he do well, im sure of it - but that isnt realistic, so we'll need a fresh face and at least 1/3 of that team gone this summer.
For me he has been in the lead even at the worst times this season. Believe it or not there is a line of thinking that exists beyond everything is the managers fault.
Lets bring in Jose for the pure press conference entertainment factor.
Seems Tuchel is off that list. Still not convinced the others are better than Ten Hag.
Feck not being convinced. I don’t think they are.
Feck not being convinced. I don’t think they are.
Yep. Of course I wanted Alonso but because it aint happening, I voted Tuchel. Thats why ten hag will 'win' the poll but never the majority.
Ultimately its all about results. Plummeting from 3rd to 8th with a negative goal differential would get any United manager sacked. Each of our preceding four managers had better years when they were let go.
Ten Haag tops the poll?
When are Utd fans voting?
When are Utd fans voting?
If we were a normally functioning club I'd agree with you, but here we are.
Agreed and re last point which is why I think recruitment might be hard and we'll have to be a bit more patient - gone are the days we could just throw money at players, Ineos are going to much stricter on wages you'd assume and deliberately go for younger players.
If we're sensible and only think about the definite/99% certain exits: Varane, Martial, Eriksen, Evans (retiring), Williams, Amrabat, Donny. That's 3 first team players; CB, CF, CM and 4 squad players. That's 7 players of which you'd assume the first teamers will be quite pricey, are we really going to shift more than that?
That's not even mentioning Case, Pellestri, Rashford, Antony sancho, greenwood etc.
How are people failing to understand that Ten Hag topping this is because everyone has spread their vote across multiple different managers.
I am also sticking with ten Hag the reason, I would like to see what he can do with new set up.
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