Man Utd Put Ben Foster Up For Sale

I don't really see the point of Behrami when we have Fletcher.

I think he's a very decent player though.
If SAF thinks it's time to write off Hargreaves then we do need to bring someone in to act as cover for Fletcher.

Considering I have no memory of ever seeing Behrami play, I have no idea if he'd be the one to do so. But going by what Buckoo said and also wiki, he's a right winger. So probably not.
 
Right midfield and he's played right back for West Ham too. He's also been injured for a significant period of time. And Brwned felt he was signing of the season last season, so he cant be that bad.
 
Behrami isn't a bad player at all. The laughing in here at his name being mentioned is misguided.

He'd do a job for us, and it really isn't like our side is water-tight right now. We lack characters with big hearts who will run and harass for ninety minutes across midfield.

Barring Fletcher, and with no Hargreaves in sight, we're lacking in that department. added to that, West Ham are even more fecked financially than we are, which means he could be had for cheap, which would be right up our street.
 
Behrami isn't a bad player at all. The laughing in here at his name being mentioned is misguided.

He'd do a job for us, and it really isn't like our side is water-tight right now. We lack characters with big hearts who will run and harass for ninety minutes across midfield.

Barring Fletcher, and with no Hargreaves in sight, we're lacking in that department. added to that, West Ham are even more fecked financially than we are, which means he could be had for cheap, which would be right up our street.

How many do the job players do we need. He's not no different to O'shea, Rafael, Nani or Obertan... He just adds to a list that does not need extending at the minuite. Would be a worthless buy. However don't think there is much to the rumour we were linked with him back in his Lazio days.
 
The job, as in, track the opposition down and win back the ball whilst driving the team on. We've got only two players who can do that well in our whole squad: Fletcher and Hargreaves.

Hargreaves may never be the same player he was, and Fletcher can't do that job all of the time.

He also looks like he can play a bit, which is beneficial. I'd say he's well worth a punt at the pittance we'd pay for him.

Have you actually been watching him at West Ham?
 
The job, as in, track the opposition down and win back the ball whilst driving the team on. We've got only two players who can do that well in our whole squad: Fletcher and Hargreaves.

Hargreaves may never be the same player he was, and Fletcher can't do that job all of the time.

He also looks like he can play a bit, which is beneficial. I'd say he's well worth a punt at the pittance we'd pay for him.

Have you actually been watching him at West Ham?

No i haven't been watching him at West Ham... Probably due to the fact he hasn't been playing. You just discribed a utility player.. We don't need a player to hassle down opposition from right wing, Valencia can do that just fine. What we need is a bit of creativity, does he offer that in abundence? I would like to know.

Tell you what good value gets you.. Tosic. If i was us i wouldn't bother wasting our money.
 
Right midfield and he's played right back for West Ham too. He's also been injured for a significant period of time. And Brwned felt he was signing of the season last season, so he cant be that bad.

For Manchester United to pay £10 million for him is ridiculous though. If West Ham wasn't so dangerously close to being relegated, and perhaps administration next season, their press sympathisiers wouldn't have bothered fabricating this season.
 
How many do the job players do we need. He's not no different to O'shea, Rafael, Nani or Obertan... He just adds to a list that does not need extending at the minuite. Would be a worthless buy. However don't think there is much to the rumour we were linked with him back in his Lazio days.

:lol:

Could you have bunched together four players more completely different in every way?
 
The job, as in, track the opposition down and win back the ball whilst driving the team on. We've got only two players who can do that well in our whole squad: Fletcher and Hargreaves.

Hargreaves may never be the same player he was, and Fletcher can't do that job all of the time.

He also looks like he can play a bit, which is beneficial. I'd say he's well worth a punt at the pittance we'd pay for him.

Have you actually been watching him at West Ham?

this team needs an injection of class, pace, not another headless mediocre chicken.
 
No i haven't been watching him at West Ham... Probably due to the fact he hasn't been playing. You just discribed a utility player.. We don't need a player to hassle down opposition from right wing, Valencia can do that just fine. What we need is a bit of creativity, does he offer that in abundence? I would like to know.

Tell you what good value gets you.. Tosic. If i was us i wouldn't bother wasting our money.
Actually, there's nothing utility about a dogged midfielder who goes in and shakes up the opposition whilst helping his team keep possession of the ball. He plays on the right side, not necessarily the right wing, as he looks like he'd be more than comfortable in a 3-man midfield.

We do need creativity, I agree, but we also need a player who can come in and cover directly for Fletcher. Do we have that? Don't you agree we lost a hell of a lot from our team when Fletcher couldn't play the CL final?

Hargreaves is supposed to be that player, but he is nowehre to be seen.

The point being, I'm guessing, is that our squad depth isn't bad, it's quality starting XI players we could do with adding to.
Who's our direct cover for Fletcher?

this team needs an injection of class, pace, not another headless mediocre chicken.
He's neither headless or mediocre though. That's a lofty position to be looking down from when we've got our fair share of players who are exactly that and few who can run down the opposition with the certainty that Fletcher does.

'Class' costs far more money than we seem to have, so it's probably not likely we're getting anyone in those astronomical price brackets.
 
Actually, there's nothing utility about a dogged midfielder who goes in and shakes up the opposition whilst helping his team keep possession of the ball. He plays on the right side, not necessarily the right wing, as he looks like he'd be more than comfortable in a 3-man midfield.

You don't think O'Shea is dogged?

Regardless of which ... is it really worth paying £10 million for essentially Fletcher backup, when the side has Carrick, Hargreaves, Gibson, Possebon and O'Shea.
 
You don't think O'Shea is dogged?

Regardless of which ... is it really worth paying £10 million for essentially Fletcher backup, when the side has Carrick, Hargreaves, Gibson, Possebon and O'Shea.
Compared to Fletcher, only Hargreaves comes close to giving us what he does through midfield. O'Shea's not in their league for doggedness, for me.

Behrami's a good little player. It's the same way people didn't rate Benayoun until he turned out to be a good signing (for the money and expectation) for the scousers.

Behrami looks like he's got more potential in him, and it doesn't surprise me a higher class of club were looking at him before he got injured.

There's this idea that we should only look at elite players, but is it realistic in our predicament?

There's much better names to mention, but can we afford them?

Hargreaves. Anderson can do it, to an extent. Fletcher isn't needed in every game.
Come off it. Anderson is a little boy lost sometimes when we play. He played the CL final without Fletcher out there, and looked lost. I'm not saying that should be the barometer of the player, but he's clearly hit and miss in terms of doggedness. Behrami, like Fletcher and Hargreaves is at it in every game he plays. It's an invaluable asset to have in midfield and we really don't have much of it in our squad at the moment.
 
Hargreaves. Anderson can do it, to an extent. Fletcher isn't needed in every game.
Obviously we only need cover for Fletcher if Fergie loses faith in Hargreaves' comeback. Anderson certainly can't do it, so if Hargreaves isn't going to make it back then it is obvious we need to buy someone else who can do that job. From what I've heard about Behrami, he isn't the right option though since he plays on the right rather than through the centre.
 
Compared to Fletcher, only Hargreaves comes close to giving us what he does through midfield. O'Shea's not in their league for doggedness, for me.

Behrami's a good little player. It's the same way people didn't rate Benayoun until he turned out to be a good signing (for the money and expectation) for the scousers.

Behrami looks like he's got more potential in him, and it doesn't surprise me a higher class of club were looking at him before he got injured.

There's this idea that we should only look at elite players, but is it realistic in our predicament?

There's much better names to mention, but can we afford them?

The reason why West Ham are trying to sell Behrami is because they consider Green, Upson, Cole and Diamanti more vital assets to their squad.

West Ham need as much money as possible to ride out the crisis of possible administration and certain relegation.

£10 million for Behrami is too much particulary when West Ham need to sell players.
 
The reason why West Ham are trying to sell Behrami is because they consider Green, Upson, Cole and Diamanti more vital assets to their squad.

West Ham need as much money as possible to ride out the crisis of possible administration and certain relegation.

£10 million for Behrami is too much particulary when West Ham need to sell players.

I think it's because he's a saleable asset who is in the spotlight for doing well for them.

And I wouldn't bet against the players you listed being sold if the right offers came along.

Besides that, four of the players you mentioned are English, which automatically puts 'English tax' on top and makes them less attractive to clubs trying to get a bargain.

Just to add that West Ham really aren't in a position to haggle or hold out, so £10m is probably £3m more than they can afford to say no to.
 
I think it's because he's a saleable asset who is in the spotlight for doing well for them.

And I wouldn't bet against the players you listed being sold if the right offers came along.

Besides that, four of the players you mentioned are English, which automatically puts 'English tax' on top and makes them less attractive to clubs trying to get a bargain.

Just to add that West Ham really aren't in a position to haggle or hold out, so £10m is probably £3m more than they can afford to say no to.

Exactly if Man Utd were to go after Behrami, they shouldn't pay full price.

I agree with your English tax analysis, which will even apply to the likes of Jack Collison who's Welsh.

Man Utd took Richardson off their hands, they should be grateful :lol:
 
For Manchester United to pay £10 million for him is ridiculous though. If West Ham wasn't so dangerously close to being relegated, and perhaps administration next season, their press sympathisiers wouldn't have bothered fabricating this season.

I absolutely wasnt suggesting we buy him or that he's worth such and such an amount, dont worry about that. I was just filling in those asking where he plays and if he's any good. He's decent enough but I'd hope we have other targets...
 
Come off it. Anderson is a little boy lost sometimes when we play. He played the CL final without Fletcher out there, and looked lost. I'm not saying that should be the barometer of the player, but he's clearly hit and miss in terms of doggedness. Behrami, like Fletcher and Hargreaves is at it in every game he plays. It's an invaluable asset to have in midfield and we really don't have much of it in our squad at the moment.

We shouldn't be spending what little money we have on backup players when there are others who can do a job and one who is still expected to return from injury. There are important positions within the starting XI that need addressing first, and then backup for those positions without strengthening a position that is relatively strong compared to other positions.
 
We shouldn't be spending what little money we have on backup players when there are others who can do a job and one who is still expected to return from injury. There are important positions within the starting XI that need addressing first, and then backup for those positions without strengthening a position that is relatively strong compared to other positions.
It's not relatively strong though. We've got Fletcher, and that's it. Unless you want to count an injury-prone player that hasn't played in 18 months, and has serious doubts over his future. Leaving us with a midfield that gets completely over-run against any other top team when Fletcher isn't available. See the Barca final, and the last three times we've played Liverpool. Obviously we don't know exactly how Hargreaves is recovering, but if it doesn't look good getting cover for Fletcher has to be one of our biggest priorities.

We've got more depth in other positions. Not necessarily great players, but players who can do a job.
 
It's not relatively strong though. We've got Fletcher, and that's it. Unless you want to count an injury-prone player that hasn't played in 18 months, and has serious doubts over his future. Leaving us with a midfield that gets completely over-run against any other top team when Fletcher isn't available. See the Barca final, and the last three times we've played Liverpool. Obviously we don't know exactly how Hargreaves is recovering, but if it doesn't look good getting cover for Fletcher has to be one of our biggest priorities.

We've got more depth in other positions. Not necessarily great players, but players who can do a job.

Exactly. There always seems to be this concept that we're in magnificent shape and blind hope that our players will all step up to be counted and will prevail no matter what, but realistically, we've got some minor holes to fill as well as some bigger ones and at the right price, which someone like Behrami could be probably be had at, there'd be nothing wrong with bolstering the squad with bargains we need whilst they're there to be had.
 
I doubt that Ben had been placed on transfer list. On the other hand I won't be surprised if he place a transfer request.

Something has to be going on with him, I know he's had a virus or something but it must be getting close to 10+ games now where he hasn't even made the bench
 
The correspondent suggested it was a question of the bid not meeting our valuation, rather than Ferguson not being prepared to sell him

I think it's fair enough. A real shame though. I wouldn't be surprised to see him keep goal for England in the summer, and go on to be a bloody good goalkeeper for a top side. Waste of time him being at a club where he can't even make the bench though
 
I think I'd rather loan him and then we still have the option to retain him for next season, but for the good of his career, he does really need to leave
 
I think I'd rather loan him and then we still have the option to retain him for next season, but for the good of his career, he does really need to leave

I can't see this being much use to us really. I think he needs a prolonged run as a first choice to rebuild his confidence, and at a decent club too, and he won't get that going out on loan. Maybe a buy-back clause would be a better idea?
 
if we sell him, it surely means we are in for another keeper in the summer at least.

We could (hopefully fingers crossed touch wood) get by for the rest of the season with VDS, PIG and Amos, but if VDS was to retire in the summer we would HAVE to be in for someone surely.
 
In reality, you cant really have three decent goalkeepers in a squad, and keep them all happy. And as Fergie seems to favour PIG as his number 2, a third choice keeper such as the standard of Foster is really unheard off, usually a third choice keeper is a youngster or a member of the reserves.
So it is probably best for each side to part company
 
I've never been convinced he would cut it as a United keeper so it was inevitable he'd go, just a matter of if its this window or the summer. I thought Spurs had a decent keeper though, Redknapp said he wouldn't go for James because he wouldn't get a game.