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Do you want LVG sacked?

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We will win (barely) on Friday night and that will buy him more time. He is the ultimate master of just and so keeping his head above water.
 
Why would SAF at 74 want power and control over the club he left on such a high? It's absolute nonsense. Let him enjoy his retirement ffs.
 
I hope something is done very soon. I only get one day off work a week and look forward to the game. It's been shit to watch for ages now and generally ruins my weekend.
 
hobbers said:
The SAF/SBC power struggle stuff is all absolute nonsense.

I'm sure they want to retain influence but in terms of power they have none. Only Woodward, the Glazers and possibly Richard Arnold have power. While they might respect SAF/SBC's opinions they certainly don't have to pay attention to them. I seriously doubt either of them attend board meetings anyway. Same goes for David Gill.
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Exactly - the idea that people with billions at stake (or their appointed executives) allow their hands to be tied by two figureheads like Fergie and Charlton is ridiculous. Although, given the lack of football people at the club, they might ask for SAF/SBC's views on Mourinho and take that into account when weighing the pros and cons of appointing him.
 
snk123 said:
Why would SAF at 74 want power and control over the club he left on such a high? It's absolute nonsense. Let him enjoy his retirement ffs.
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It is nonsense. David Gill quite clearly said yesterday they were non-executive directors and would only give advice on matters of football if asked. Their role is almost exclusively ambassadorial.
 
Nothing will be done this week. Maybe losing 2-3 next games in a row could make his job unsafe but right now he's completely safe.
 
JoaquinJoaquin said:
We will win (barely) on Friday night and that will buy him more time. He is the ultimate master of just and so keeping his head above water.
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It seems like 1 win usually allows him to lose/draw 3-4 games. A draw gets him 2 games.
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
I am not sure I actually said that. I said I find it amusing that people who are slagging LVG are creaming themselves over Jose. There has not been one team he has managed that has played attractive football. As you say yourself, a well oiled machine. He also has absolutely no history of building or rebuilding a team and certainly has no experience of turning around a club that has lost its identity. He could not even turn the mess round that he created this year. Same goes for Pep in most of that.
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We get it, you're an lvg-ite
 
Summit said:
Because Woodward wants to look back on this time and say...yeah, you were all calling for his head, but I stuck by him and he prevailed (holding onto a dream that will never happen, cause LvG is crap). Sadly he's that blinkered and in love with history repeating itself, that it's stopping him from acting competently. For me there is no other reason and any other top club would have had him out long before now.
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Even that's the case and somehow, LvG survive this season and win us the league next season, I still wouldn't call it a huge achievement considering the fact that he's sitting on a goldmine and has the final call on everything.

He's about to retire, I have no idea what our board trying to prove ? At best we get one more good year out of him then what ? I don't buy the " laying foundation " bull crap, the next manager will have to be on his own anyway.
 
Sultan said:
It is nonsense. David Gill quite clearly said yesterday they were non-executive directors and would only give advice on matters of football if asked. Their role is almost exclusively ambassadorial.
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yup, these stories going around are pathetic.

And so many seem to be lapping it up
 
Sarni said:
But he's the most important one and will likely get the final vote. I am literally trying to find a reason why we kept van Gaal beyond December or why we deemed a 0-0 home draw to Chelsea and a scrappy 2-1 win over one of the worst teams in the division as job saving results.
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I think that the answer is easier than people think, we have no one to take his place, no one that the board really likes.
 
JPRouve said:
I think that the answer is easier than people think, we have no one to take his place, no one that the board really likes.
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Could be but right now him being here is poisoning itself. We could literally employ anyone and results should at least stay the same or get better, there's zero chance that anyone would be doing even worse that he's been doing for the last 2 months. Even installing Giggs as manager currently should get us better football and maybe better results plus Mourinho's available.
 
JoaquinJoaquin said:
We will win (barely) on Friday night and that will buy him more time. He is the ultimate master of just and so keeping his head above water.
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This.

He always seems to do just enough to stay in a job. The draw vs Chelsea probably helped him last time he was under any threat
 
JoaquinJoaquin said:
We will win (barely) on Friday night and that will buy him more time. He is the ultimate master of just and so keeping his head above water.
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The extreme thing is that you are probably right. I hope that something is going on now, but I fear that its not.
 
There'll probably be yet another moronic ultimatum to avoid defeat against Derby and Stoke or some similar shit.
 
Checked the Caf 3 times this morning, each visit I was expecting news of his departure.

I still want him to turn it around but there is an inevitability about it all now.
 
Sarni said:
Could be but right now him being here is poisoning itself. We could literally employ anyone and results should at least stay the same or get better, there's zero chance that anyone would be doing even worse that he's been doing for the last 2 months. Even installing Giggs as manager currently should get us better football and maybe better results plus Mourinho's available.
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I think that the answer is Mourinho, I don't like it but the board hired two managers they liked, two managers they were comfortable with and now we need to hire someone who is actually good even if we don't like him. Hiring Mourinho doesn't mean keeping him forever, his presence can give us enough time to properly prepare our future.
 
We will scrape through against Derby, and then he will have the Stoke and Chelsea games to save his job.
 
SalfordRed1960 said:
His record speaks for itself, but I would still have prefer someone like Simeone or Ancellotti. Saying all that I wanted LVG the first time Fergie said he was retiring. Would have been interesting to see what he could do with squad at that time.
Still think people on here underestimated the work that needed to be done after Fergie left. I was never the most ardent Fergie fan, but he has certainly gone down in my eyes through leaving the United squad in the state it was left. His success will always be respected, but just felt he didn't want to leave the next manager in a perfect place.
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It's easy to blame Fergie but the squad he left us was able to go toe o toe vs Madrid,over to legs, and could justifiably feel hard done when it got out in addition to achieving 89 points in the league and winning away at Ratfield, Emptyhad and at the Bridge. The squad he left did all that but it still needed some work and investment on it just like any other squad would require in the summer after assessments. The problem was in appointing an idiot who could appreciate what the squad needed and, along with Woodward, we hell bent on flying around Europe, cock in hand, bidding for unrealistic targets whilst being used by certain players to strengthen their bargaining positions. If Moyes had bought the players we needed then; a CM, CB, LB and LW, we could have been in a better state than the one he left us in. After Fergie retired we were at the crossroads but the choices made by those who succeeded him have taken us to this point.
 
Its a couple of months too late in my opinion, but if there were any last vestiges of doubt that LVG could trun this around they are now gone and I think even our board are commencing their QE2 like U-turn that will probably take another month until we are properly out of top4 contention.
Giggs till the end of the season. We could have Mr Blobby in charge and I don't think he do any worse.......
 
Apparently Adidas are trying to sever a sponsorship deal of another sport/team four years early. Anyone know what it is? Hope this shits up the Glazers.

Edit: just seen it's athletics so not performance based, ugh.
 
Woodzy said:
We will scrape through against Derby, and then he will have the Stoke and Chelsea games to save his job.
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Stoke and Chelsea to save his job? Heard that one before.

The board's indecision on Van Gaal has been bizarre. Considering how fixated the Glazers are on the finances of the club, its incredible they have sat on their hands while our chances of winning anything have slipped further and further away. Prize money, advertising opportunities...all of that is slipping away. Yet they do nothing. Van Gaal should have gone months ago now. Months. The people running the club look like they haven't got a scooby doo.
 
dwd said:
Apparently Adidas are trying to sever a sponsorship deal of another sport/team four years early. Anyone know what it is? Hope this shits up the Glazers.

Edit: just seen it's athletics so not performance based, ugh.
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It's with Athletics isn't it? But that's due to the ongoing doping scandal.
 
The Purley King said:
We could have Mr Blobby in charge and I don't think he do any worse.......
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Agreed, and he'd probably fluke the Europa League as well.

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JPRouve said:
I think that the answer is Mourinho, I don't like it but the board hired two managers they liked, two managers they were comfortable with and now we need to hire someone who is actually good even if we don't like him. Hiring Mourinho doesn't mean keeping him forever, his presence can give us enough time to properly prepare our future.
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I tend to agree. I'd rather go for (another) promising manager who's proven in the Prem - Poch maybe.

But Jose is as 'safe' a pair of hands in the short term as you can get, irrespective of this season. It would give us a bit of time to effectively let him steady the footballing ship whilst we sort out the mess behind the scenes that is clearly getting out of control.
 
This is bizarre. What are we waiting for?
 
JPRouve said:
I think that the answer is easier than people think, we have no one to take his place, no one that the board really likes.
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Completely agree, and quite frankly I agree with that decision. I'm sure he'll leave at the end of the season but I think it'd take a Chelsea style shambles to get him sacked sooner.
 
The fact he is going to Holland just for he's daughters birthday whilst we are in a crisis speaks volumes about he's commitment for me.
 
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