Grim, though not quite dire. Telles needs to be given a run of starts.
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Smart lad. Saw things going to shit, got a ball in the face. stayed down and got the hell out of there.
It wasn't actually one of the worst performances from him even this season alone.
He is so fecking lazy. l and his positioning is shite, he has no defensive awareness at all.
The second goal, Matic is out doing his job at left back while he stands on the edge of the box doing nothing, eventually he makes a token run towards the crosser.
The second goal, Matic is out doing his job at left back while he stands on the edge of the box doing nothing, eventually he makes a token run towards the crosser.
In the end Jose was right about him just as he was with Pogba unfortunately. I think Jose could see from day one he was a fragile player and one you'd have to push constantly to get the best out of him.
Its no surprise he went up a gear when we seemed to provide some proper competition for him. He had a career year last year but didn't have the mentality to push on and be even better. Fullbacks are one of the most consistent players in football but in Shaw's time here at the club he's been anything but consistent.
He should also be pushing on as a leader in this team as he's been here 7 years now but he seems to be one of our worst performers when we go through adversity. Same could be said of our 'captain'.
Its no surprise he went up a gear when we seemed to provide some proper competition for him. He had a career year last year but didn't have the mentality to push on and be even better. Fullbacks are one of the most consistent players in football but in Shaw's time here at the club he's been anything but consistent.
He should also be pushing on as a leader in this team as he's been here 7 years now but he seems to be one of our worst performers when we go through adversity. Same could be said of our 'captain'.
That season when everyone was raving about him want even a full season he got really good around Xmas. Before that he looked overweight and in no good shape at all. He is a shocking player with no idea how to defend and on the other side we have a player who doesn't have a clue how to attack. The funny thing is though the attacking numbers between these two are almost identical.
Jose was right about Shaw, Pogba and Martial but the board chose the players over him as it was the cheaper option.
This guy has been quietly terrible all season. And to think he hit such heights last year and in the summer. Fallen off a cliff. Telles is bang average himself but he could do with some time out.
If you know he's bang average based on the odd cup game you should be a scout.
All I know is Telles is not a calamity and Shaw and Dalot are. Deserves to start while Shaw sorts his shit out.
I knew he was bang average before he joined us.
If it's Poch, then he will get his ass kicked. Full backs are extremely key for his style.
Should probably have been dropped for his own good and to take him out of the firing line for a bit. Maybe you could argue that we were tying to play him and Maguire into some form, like they'll get sharper the more they play but it hasn't worked.
They supposedly had a really good relationship at Southampton. At least he wont get the Jose treatment which he pretty obviously reacted badly to.
That's fair.
I had never seen him before we bought him.
Anyway Shaw looks like an amateur right now so Telles or Fred at LB would be an improvement.
Yea, as I said, I’m not against Shaw sitting out a few games. But I also don’t believe he is in some sort of genuine ‘competition’ with Telles. He is a far superior player in my view, but Telles isn’t any sort of sustainable answer at LB either I don’t think. In the short term though, it may havr the desired effect of getting Luke Shaw going again.
I've been so disappointed with him this season.
I like Shaw, but considering the poor form he’s been in, he should be worried.
I wont be sorry to see an upgrade.
Shaw is a decent player but incredibly stunted in the attacking side of the game and lets face it a winning team needs a full back that can play offensively too
Up to Shaw to prove him wrong! Too many players and staff living on past hopes/not how they perform in their role in the current day.
So he shouldn't be worried based off of that clip? He's saying there he rated him when he was in good form and that they should only get a LB because his form had dropped.
TLDR: Ragnar could drop players in poor form.
Shaw was incredible last season, but this season he 's been terrible, not sure why but perhaps a short break and few games on the bench will help him gain back his form.
Shaw if he recaptures his form has nothing to worry about. A few hopeful posters who seem to have a dislike for him.
He was brilliant for us and one of the best LB’s in Europe last season.
He was brilliant for us and one of the best LB’s in Europe last season.
After Rangnick's comments he was one of the best leftbacks in the league if not the world. Post Euros he's been poor but he can get back to last season's form.
He's in terrible form this season but he was on an upward trajectory for the last 3 seasons.
He hasn't been good in just the last season like some people are saying. Even at his worst, he still has the 2nd most key passes in our squad.
He hasn't been good in just the last season like some people are saying. Even at his worst, he still has the 2nd most key passes in our squad.
Shaw just needs some proper rest. He probably needs to feel challenged. He started peaking after we signed Telles.
I'm surprised no one is concerned about the concussion(s?). Didn't he go off last 2 PL games?
Seems like it could be another example of an injured player being told to play.
Seems like it could be another example of an injured player being told to play.
Personally I'm quite worried about it. There were two weeks between them, but that's basically the absolute minimum you want to have.
He really needs to be given a good long rest for his own health. Getting multiple concussions in such a relatively short period of time can potentially have devastating health impacts in the short or long term.
Even worse if it was just one concussion dragging on. I would have thought there'd be questions asked, since concussions is such a concern. Maybe that's not a PL thing?
This was said in September 2020 and that was before the emergence of Shawberto.
As soon as Luke sees the lazy cnuts in our team lift their game he will as well.
Telles would work well under Rolf’ system, so Luke will certainly have some serious competition
Telles' defending is shit. Not on Dalot shitness level but still within that range. Every time i watched Telles, I can't understand how a fullback just can't do a simple defending.
I think Telles has no hope in the Premier League as he is weak and is a turnstile in defence but we will see what Ralf thinks.
I understand Shaw had concussion from the City match and therefore missed the international matches. But was back for Watford...
I've tried to remove the Watford game from memory but am I right in thinking that his head injury in the Watford match was caused by the ball hitting him on the head? I'm surprised he's missed this much football as a result if that's the case - unless the club are using it as an opportunity for a rest / reset (much needed given this season's form)
I've tried to remove the Watford game from memory but am I right in thinking that his head injury in the Watford match was caused by the ball hitting him on the head? I'm surprised he's missed this much football as a result if that's the case - unless the club are using it as an opportunity for a rest / reset (much needed given this season's form)
Fair to say Shaw, and Maguire, have both been awful this season and a big reason why we have conceded so many goals from their side of the pitch.
I think we need to upgrade both full backs, but maybe Ralf can actually teach them how to defend.
I think we need to upgrade both full backs, but maybe Ralf can actually teach them how to defend.
2 bad head injuries very close to another isn't a great thing.
They're rightly giving him a chance to get over it. Lets be honest, he's not been in great form recently either. Maybe he has a few other niggles that are stopping him playing his best.
I hope he's back for the Arsenal game.
They both have played a lot of football and probably just need a rest. I don’t hugely rate Maguire but I think Shaw is talented and just needs a rest. Maguire is solid too but I think the strain of the captaincy is taking a toll. Take it off him and let him focus on football.
Quiet thread this. Shaw was absolutely fantastic last season and it's only 5 months since he scored in the EURO final, being hailed as the best left back in the world. Even Roberto Carlos was raving about our Shawberto.
So what the hell happened this season? Him and Maguire has played like absolute clowns.
I'm taking the easy way out and blaming it all on Ole. It's only so long you can get motivated by getting told to "express yourself".
To really get this season back on track we need last years Shaw back. You could give him the ball in any situation and he'd always find a way out, no matter how hard he was pressed and isolated at the sideline. A terrific asset to have.
Alex Telles, as decent as he's been, is just nowhere near the same level.
So what the hell happened this season? Him and Maguire has played like absolute clowns.
I'm taking the easy way out and blaming it all on Ole. It's only so long you can get motivated by getting told to "express yourself".
To really get this season back on track we need last years Shaw back. You could give him the ball in any situation and he'd always find a way out, no matter how hard he was pressed and isolated at the sideline. A terrific asset to have.
Alex Telles, as decent as he's been, is just nowhere near the same level.
Quiet thread this. Shaw was absolutely fantastic last season and it's only 5 months since he scored in the EURO final, being hailed as the best left back in the world. Even Roberto Carlos was raving about our Shawberto.
So what the hell happened this season? Him and Maguire has played like absolute clowns.
I'm taking the easy way out and blaming it all on Ole. It's only so long you can get motivated by getting told to "express yourself".
To really get this season back on track we need last years Shaw back. You could give him the ball in any situation and he'd always find a way out, no matter how hard he was pressed and isolated at the sideline. A terrific asset to have.
Alex Telles, as decent as he's been, is just nowhere near the same level.
As usual, people get carried away.
Shaw and Maguire like others from the England squad are feeling the effects of the Euros.
Stones has lost his place at City, Kane isnt firing, Mount lost his place at City.
This happens to certain players post international tournament.
With the United players, its not been helped with the lack of organisation in the team, when your forwards and midfielders dont help defensively, the defence will look bad.
100%. I think most players who make it to the last 4 of a major international tournament will struggle. Getting beaten in the fashion England did was always going to cause a hangover for that squad. Italy, who won the tournament have struggled (relatively) in the WC qualifiers.
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