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YesDo you honestly think Rashford is the better striker?
YesDo you honestly think Rashford is the better striker?
Where are the realistic and upgrade worthy potential replacements?
Where are the realistic and upgrade worthy potential replacements?
Not using him as a scapegoat aside, his first touch is absolutely atrocious and needs to play in a certain way to be of use to us. Given his post match comments he can pack his bags and leave for all i care.
I'm surprisingly very impressed with Ole if he is showing Lukaku the door.
The first thing Klopp did in his summer transfer window was to flog Benteke who's stock was still relatively high at that time. It didn't matter that Sturridge had injury worries and his form was problematic. I didn't matter that he didn't get a centre forward signed. It didn't matter that on paper he'd weakened the CF position.
He moved Firmino central who was far more suited to his system and changed the shape to accommodate a more fluid style.
Irrespective of who we bring in getting rid of Lukaku needs to be a priority whilst his value is still decent. Whether we only have Rashford, Martial and Greenwood that can play centrally is somewhat secondary to having a clear identity and strategy in my view.
Yeah, let's sell a player who is a born goal scorer! The guy has scored nearly 200 goals for club and country and is only 26.
How many career goals do Messi and Ronaldo have? And they are how old!
Let's all get brainwashed in this young British mantra the board and Ole are trying to sell us!
What the hell do people want?
Somebody said that Klopp sold Benteke in the peak of his form, no he didn't, he was injured half the time. And has it not occured to anyone that Klopp might be a 10 times better manager than Ole!
Imagine calling him a donkey for two years and then getting mad when he implies he wants to leave.
Indeed!! the thing we have lacked the most is an identity since Sir Alex retired. We had it somewhat under LvG but it was so boring and none of his signings made much sense to the system either, like di Maria being more direct, dribbler was never going to suit a possession based team.I'm surprisingly very impressed with Ole if he is showing Lukaku the door.
The first thing Klopp did in his summer transfer window was to flog Benteke who's stock was still relatively high at that time. It didn't matter that Sturridge had injury worries and his form was problematic. I didn't matter that he didn't get a centre forward signed. It didn't matter that on paper he'd weakened the CF position.
He moved Firmino central who was far more suited to his system and changed the shape to accommodate a more fluid style.
Irrespective of who we bring in getting rid of Lukaku needs to be a priority whilst his value is still decent. Whether we only have Rashford, Martial and Greenwood that can play centrally is somewhat secondary to having a clear identity and strategy in my view.
Am I missing something, is Italy still not a slower, more technical style of football?
ie the opposite of what would suit him?
Any good forwards on Inter that could be part of a swap?
Except no one's mad. Oh, and he is a donkey.Imagine calling him a donkey for two years and then getting mad when he implies he wants to leave.
Harsh. I don't see him disrespecting the club in anything that he's said. Everybody and their dog knows that he's no longer first choice, so fair play to him wanting to move somewhere else for that role (and almost certainly taking a paycut as I can't see Inter paying him as much as us). He's always made it obvious throughout his career that he doesn't want to only be a squad player.
If he starts trying to put pressure on us to accept low bids, then there will be issues. But for now it's fine.
Harsh. I don't see him disrespecting the club in anything that he's said. Everybody and their dog knows that he's no longer first choice, so fair play to him wanting to move somewhere else for that role (and almost certainly taking a paycut as I can't see Inter paying him as much as us). He's always made it obvious throughout his career that he doesn't want to only be a squad player.
If he starts trying to put pressure on us to accept low bids, then there will be issues. But for now it's fin
Harsh. I don't see him disrespecting the club in anything that he's said. Everybody and their dog knows that he's no longer first choice, so fair play to him wanting to move somewhere else for that role (and almost certainly taking a paycut as I can't see Inter paying him as much as us). He's always made it obvious throughout his career that he doesn't want to only be a squad player.
If he starts trying to put pressure on us to accept low bids, then there will be issues. But for now it's fine.
It's pay back time, Inter tried to sell us 29 years old Perisic for $50mil pound.
Lukaku is a 26 years old striker who have much better stats in scoring goals compared to Perisic.
Hope the club ask for minimum of $50mil for Lukaku with condition that Inter must also take Sanchez from us who is actually can be quite useful in Seria A. Win Win.
Benteke wasn't injured all the time. He missed 5 league games due to injury after Klopp too over. He played in all league games except 1.
So just because Klopp is better manager than Ole means he shouldn't try to build the team and accept whoever are in the team?
Born goal scorer who scored 12 league goals in 2130 mins (177 mins per goal) and went on a run of 9 games and 8 games without scoring a goal this season. Lukaku isnt a born goal scorer, he is a good player who scores decent number of goals but doesn't contribute much when he isn't scoring (apart form odd games where he makes a brilliant pass)
Martial playing as a winger contributed to as many goals as Lukaku, playing 500 mins less. Even last season Martial had better mins per Goals + assists and he was playing as a winger. For a player who is leading the line for Manutd, you expect him to score more than 16 and 12 league goals when his game is limited and doesn't offer much.
If we sign Piatek I sign up for a season ticket.
He runs less than any other player in the team, but he had always given his best? How do you measure that exactly?People here have always been unfairly harsh on Lukaku, he has always given his best to the club and has been a consistent source of quality in a team lacking alot of it
Doesn't help when you have a defensive coach as your manager. The fact is, Mourinho tried to turn him into something he wasn't, a Didier Drogba! His fitness has also lacked because of it!
Funny how an attacking coach in Roberto Martinez gets the best out of him at Belgium and when he was at Everton!
But hey, each to their own devices. We might replace him with a Haller! The new Duncan Ferguson! Or we might not replace him at all, and we will be stuck with Rashford up top. The guy who only hit double figures for the first time last season!
Myself, I'd rather see Martial up top than Rashford!
I doubt many top clubs want a striker who can't control a ball and pay 70+ mil on top(yes, we did). I reckon at Inter he'll follow the same pattern of scoring in patches and silently dominating when he doesn't score, like he's done with West Brom/Everton and now at United.What I don't get is why Inter are the only interested club? Bayern (lewandoski getting on) PSG (Cavani replacement) Juve, Real (went for a teenager instead), Chelsea? Is he not rated in the continent?
What I don't get is why Inter are the only interested club? Bayern (lewandoski getting on) PSG (Cavani replacement) Juve, Real (went for a teenager instead), Chelsea? Is he not rated in the continent?
He runs less than any other player in the team, but he had always given his best? How do you measure that exactly?
And he had rarely been a consistent anything for United. In fact, he was pretty much the opposite — a player prone to have series of numerous good/bad games in a row, where he either scored every chance or made us look like we’re playing with a man down.
Weird post. I don’t have anything against him, but the lack of dedication/workrate and consistency on the pitch are pretty much his biggest weaknesses.
People here have always been unfairly harsh on Lukaku, he has always given his best to the club and has been a consistent source of quality in a team lacking alot of it
Exactly. Not top top tier striker, not worth the money United want for him. Inter's interest in the first place is down to ConteHe is rated as a decent player like Dzeko, ambitious clubs won't spend the amount of money that United may want.
Belgium have superb creators and also play against poor teams, that's like ManUtd playing against league 1/2 teams. His best season came under Koeman. Under Martinez he scored 15, 10, 18 goals (averaging 14 goals per season)
Re Rashford scoring more than 10 goals for the first time, it's unfair to place so much expectation on the player who was playing as a winger and barely played as a CF. 2018-19 was the first season he got run of games as CF.
It is not unfair at all if we plan to make him our main number 9.
I meant questioning his goal scoring record when he was playing as winger.
He wasn't though. More a left forward than winger. Scoring goals is essential in that position.
Yeah, in Jose's team CF was averaging 14 league goals per season but somehow winger who was in and out of the team should have scored more then 10 league goals. That was realistic expectation.
Also no, Rashford wasn't more of a forward than winger. With the way we played, they were much deeper and relied on long ball to Lukaku.
The problem is that people tend to overestimate the amount of goals that Lukaku scores, they base everything on that one season who is at the moment an outlier which was an obvious possibility since he scored 7 of his goals in two games.
Even though Lukaku and Martial have big question marks over their heads, they are somehow close to Lukaku when it comes to goals and assists which is crazy when you consider that in Mourinho's system the attack was built around him.