Because I don't think Haaland is interested, total guesswork on my behalf but it makes sense. But if Chelsea are willing to throw silly money on Lukaku, I'm sure they were willing to do so on Haaland.
Lukaku to Chelsea? €100m bid + player rejected
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Because I don't think Haaland is interested, total guesswork on my behalf but it makes sense. But if Chelsea are willing to throw silly money on Lukaku, I'm sure they were willing to do so on Haaland.
Lingard was incredible on loan and we still have him.
Absolutely spot on
Chelsea are selling young players most normal clubs would keep whereas we're trying to sell dross like Andreas and Dalot or players at the wrong end of their career like Jones and Lingard
Your manager wants to keep him, that's why!
Some of the young players decided to leave for themselves. Chelsea can't put a gun to Livramento's head for example, and force him to sign a contract, if he can't see a pathway through Reece James into the first team. There is surely a limit to the amount of academy players a club can reasonably have in the first team. Chelsea already have about 5, of which 3 are regular starters.
Some of them were head-scratchers, I won't lie [Guehi for example, I think is more or less similarly talented as Kounde without the resume to back it up] but in the end, you either send them out on loan and assess their level when they return or you sell them. Most of the players we sold had one thing in common, they didn't want to go out on loan. Those who were happy to go on loan, did [Gallagher, Gilmour and soon Broja].
Tomori is one I can't understand, he was brilliant against us for Milan last season. Compare his performances against us with Dalot's it's clear to see why Chelsea find it easier to sell their players than we do ours
I think he’s a very good signing for them. He’ll absolutely tonk the teams towards the mid and lower end of the table, and provide a focal point for others to play off against the top teams.
I watched that Milan-United tie, you're right, he was really impressive. There was a clause in the loan agreement. I'm not certain if Chelsea had the chance to veto the move, but regardless, Tomori was keen to move to Milan permanently, and fair play to him because I don't think he would have been an automatic starter for us next season.
I applaud young players who take control over their own careers, so even though it's not nice to see so many academy prospects leave all at once, they're making smart moves for their own careers.
If a good enough offer came in for Lingard I think we'd have sold him.
You can say that about literally any player though.
Not really, Lingard was obviously surplus to requirements hence the loan. We had a figure that we wanted for him and no club can seem to afford him so we may as well keep him now.
If a good enough offer came in, you'd sell Sancho. If a good enough offer came in, Chelsea would sell Mount.
Well let me help you out there, before this escalates yet again.. Lindelof is a blind one legged donkey
Would make no sense for Haland to leave Dortmund, he has a massive payday coming and Mina will want to make sure he can suck as much money as possible out of the deal.
He couldn’t trap a ball if he was made of Velcro and the ball was furry
Neither of your examples are for sale though.
Lingard has always been in the shop window, but he's not someone we have an appetite to sell on peanuts.
Basically you saying the manager wants to keep him is wrong. Ole quite clearly wants to move Lingard on but is unable to.
Yeah don't listen to what Ole says publicly, he said the same about Lukaku and Sanchez right before we sold both of them
Lingard is on the for sale pile
Its actually you who is being racist here.
He will be double the amount of Lukaku double the amount Lukaku wages then agent and his family fees probably made chelsea backed off.
Sure another probability haaland not wanted to move to chelsea.If so he will sign anyway next season.
Of course he doesn’t - Lingard is surplus to requirements and not cheap to have. At the very best he is a sub to Bruno and 3rd option off the left. Without chances to become first choice (it is simply impossible for him to bench Bruno or Pogba).
But it’s not OGS’ style to publicly say he doesn’t want his player
I guess we'll see, when the season starts.
You should employ better negotiator then most of your problems in selling players will be solved.
Brutal as I tend to associate word donkey in football with one which has really poor technical qualities. Lindelof isn't bad technically given he is a CB!But this doesn’t happen in a vacuum. With Henderson, Scott, Pogba, Rashford, Greenwood and lingard you could see 6 players start for us that played through the academy. Feck knows what the numbers will be if the likes of Elanga get game time as well. Clubs have to earn that, earn the youngsters trust that they can stay and develop at the actual club they signed for. Even James etc were sent away on loan. Not trusting the club to integrate them through the first team is an element of why these players are sold and that’s somehow applauded on here.
Technically I agree with you. But also technically he’s not a very good defender
He's not a CB, he's a failed DM. He hardly does any defending ffs. Most defending he does is pointing at where he wants Maguire to cover him and hold his hands up like he's being held at gun point.
I agree! Hence what I said about him being ok on the ball actually.
150 million plus 20 million agent fee, plus 20 million for his dad plus a reported 1 million a week wage demand! So not really a little bit more, massively way more!
If players not wanted to be patient it's better to sell them rather than keep them unhappily. We had enough youngsters started in cl final.
The mentioned above players three went on loan and established themselves. Our academy now only started to generate some class youngsters. They just able to hold on to their first team place. It's long process to integrate youngsters in teams expected to fight for title.
For past few seasons I don't think you fight for any title. Will see how long before you win any big title. It's easy for teams not fight for titles to integrate youngsters in the team.
Yeah and there are 5 at Chelsea. I think there is kind of a limit to how many of these academy kids you can have in the first team if you're aiming to win major trophies.
You're not wrong about Chelsea needing to earn the trust that the pathway will always be there if they're good enough, but I don't think just selling them is what's being applauded here [and it's hardly deafening praise, so let's not overstate it] it's the fees they're being sold for.
Haaland doesnt like London. He likes Manchester.
He really will just fill one need. Convert oppo
Our most promising youngsters are starting games for us. You can only have so many come through.
I do think he is world class. As would many others, but they'd also agree he isnt worth 97m also.
Lukaku has been there 2 years and scored 64 in 95. Immobile 64 in 89. Muriel 45 in 84 Zapata 38 in 82.
Thats last 2 years between them all, in Lukaku's entire Inter time
But he also scored 1 in 2 at WBA and Everton. So regardless of his touch and dribbling etc, he is a goalscorer. He scores goals everywhere he goes, and hits double figures quite consistently. Apart from his first stint with us and his first season as a pro, he has never scored lower than 15 in a season. Anderlecht, WBA, Everton, Inter, Utd. He will score goals for us, and thats all we needed, a goalscorer.
In Serie A, Lukaku has 48 goals + assists (excluding pens) at 122 mins per G+A.
Immobile has 53 Non penalty goals + assists at 113 mins per G+A
Zapata has 46 Non penalty goals + assists at 95 mins per G+A
Muriel has 40 Non penalty goals + assists at 67 mins per G+A
Caputo has 39 Non penalty goals+ assists at 118 mins per G+A
Henrik Mkhitaryan has 36 Non penalty goals + assists at 118 mins per G+A
Serie A
Top 10 Non penalty goals + assists (ordered by mins per G+A)
| Rk | Player | Squad | Mins | Goals | Assists | Non Penalty Goals | NPG + Assists | Mins per NPG+A |
5 | Luis Muriel | Atalanta | 2696 | 40 | 8 | 32 | 40 | 67.40 |
10 | Dries Mertens | Napoli | 3148 | 18 | 15 | 18 | 33 | 95.39 |
4 | Duván Zapata | Atalanta | 4405 | 33 | 15 | 31 | 46 | 95.76 |
10 | Josip Iličić | Atalanta | 3189 | 21 | 14 | 19 | 33 | 96.64 |
1 | Ciro Immobile | Lazio | 6019 | 56 | 15 | 38 | 53 | 113.57 |
2 | Cristiano Ronaldo | Juventus | 5719 | 60 | 7 | 42 | 49 | 116.71 |
6 | Francesco Caputo | Sassuolo | 4628 | 32 | 12 | 27 | 39 | 118.67 |
9 | Henrikh Mkhitaryan | Roma | 4275 | 22 | 15 | 21 | 36 | 118.75 |
3 | Romelu Lukaku | Inter | 5863 | 47 | 13 | 35 | 48 | 122.15 |
6 | Domenico Berardi | Sassuolo | 4968 | 31 | 17 | 22 | 39 | 127.38 |
8 | Lautaro Martínez | Inter | 5013 | 31 | 9 | 27 | 36 | 139.25 |
10 | Edin Džeko | Roma | 4678 | 23 | 10 | 23 | 33 | 141.76 |
14 | Robin Gosens | Atalanta | 5140 | 19 | 13 | 19 | 32 | 160.63 |
10 | João Pedro | Cagliari | 6404 | 34 | 7 | 26 | 33 | 194.06 |
Including penalties, top 10 Goals + assists ordered by mins per G+A
| Rk | Player | Squad | Mins | Goals | Assists | Goals + Assists | Mins per G+A |
4 | Luis Muriel | Atalanta | 2696 | 40 | 8 | 48 | 56.17 |
1 | Ciro Immobile | Lazio | 6019 | 56 | 15 | 71 | 84.77 |
2 | Cristiano Ronaldo | Juventus | 5719 | 60 | 7 | 67 | 85.36 |
4 | Duván Zapata | Atalanta | 4405 | 33 | 15 | 48 | 91.77 |
3 | Romelu Lukaku | Inter | 5863 | 47 | 13 | 60 | 97.72 |
6 | Domenico Berardi | Sassuolo | 4968 | 31 | 17 | 48 | 103.50 |
7 | Francesco Caputo | Sassuolo | 4628 | 32 | 12 | 44 | 105.18 |
10 | Lautaro Martínez | Inter | 5013 | 31 | 9 | 40 | 125.33 |
8 | Lorenzo Insigne | Napoli | 5675 | 27 | 14 | 41 | 138.41 |
8 | João Pedro | Cagliari | 6404 | 34 | 7 | 41 | 156.20 |
Apologies if this has been asked before. But I was wondering how much Inter would end up paying United for Lukaku? We sold him for around 75M but those payments would have been staggered over a certain number of years. In cases like these, where Inter is now selling Lukaku on before the earlier fee has been fully paid out, do they still pay United the entire transfer fee? I guess they would, but just wanted to confirm that is the case.
There won't be any change in the payment structure that Inter agreed with us. Only change is we will get around 5 million due to the sell on clause.
Think there was supposedly 47 million left to pay... presumably over the next 3 seasons
So perhaps 52 million now over the next 3 seasons? ... better hope inter sell some more players or we won't see most of that!
Inter are not far behind Barca
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