Gio
★★★★★★★★
Like the deployment of Czibor and Zebec. Bold and compelling management.
Let's be clear on one thing here - there is no chance whatsoever that Czibor gives you a better output than Garrincha in the setup you have gone with.It's not about being better. He is not better by any stretch of imagination.
1. I never picked Garrincha for this formation. I built 4 different formations and Garrincha makes into only 2 of those.
2. One other reason was I have been watching Czibor a decent bit since the last draft (Faced him in the last draft against Pat and found his assessment quite inaccurate from fellow drafters over the old threads). So I wanted to play him in a different role and responsibilities from the usual. I was very surprised to learn that he was naturally right footed a few weeks ago.
Also, Garrincha being dropped in favour of Czibor as a right winger is really a true reflection of how far the draft hipsters have gone into harassing people and making them so scared of having any kind of individual ability and flair and pinned the audience into appreciating workman like teams, in a bloody fantasy game where one of the motives to play is envisaging some of the great combinations that never happened in real life. This Thomas Muller cult has gone too far into sucking the entire joy out of these tournaments. lol
Define more deeper.
He was well known to drop into full back and sweeper/CB positions on a regular basis let alone deeper into the midfield.
Might be tough to drop him any deeper without offending Yashin
Let's be clear on one thing here - there is no chance whatsoever that Czibor gives you a better output than Garrincha in the setup you have gone with.
I can see Zito being the anchor and Coluna playing his high energy game, just think they might need a bit of help against Robson and not getting out numbered there.
Agree, this is why the more creative setups (total football is a good example) is never seen good enough to win drafts.Also, Garrincha being dropped in favour of Czibor as a right winger is really a true reflection of how far the draft hipsters have gone into harassing people and making them so scared of having any kind of individual ability and flair and pinned the audience into appreciating workman like teams, in a bloody fantasy game where one of the motives to play is envisaging some of the great combinations that never happened in real life. This Thomas Muller cult has gone too far into sucking the entire joy out of these tournaments. lol
Like the deployment of Czibor and Zebec. Bold and compelling management.
@GodShaveTheQueen you added a Like button to the your formation graphic?
WM is 2-3-2-3. What you are seeing here is 3-2-3-2.
next step is to crop the screen.
@MJJ once told me that you can search for your opponent's lineup on sharemytactics.
So prefer to not submit and just capture the screen.
Before submitting, it shows the like button and formation (3-5-2 here).
No I didn't add it myself FFS
Interesting but fair enough. TBH I still can't wrap my head around benching Garrincha for a Gento and Zoltan on the right combo
Despite the shocking Garrincha decision, would give this to Queenshaver. Djalma and Zebec are both excellent choices of course and think Pat and Sjor went a bit too deep in the whole 'underrated players theme' and met one of the GOAT laden sides here, and don't see that insane front three being contained.
Despite the shocking Garrincha decision, would give this to Queenshaver. Djalma and Zebec are both excellent choices of course and think Pat and Sjor went a bit too deep in the whole 'underrated players theme' and met one of the GOAT laden sides here, and don't see that insane front three being contained.
Interesting but fair enough. TBH I still can't wrap my head around benching Garrincha for a Gento and Zoltan on the right combo
Just in case you haven't gotten a chance to read the thread and OP, Czibor started there in the WC final and scored.
Of course, it's a no brainier between Garrincha and him but Czibor is not an insensible player to start there.
Wait, wasn't Chhetri a sheep you got and didn't you have to field him?This was the original lineup. Just couldn't get enough time to make a post about Chhetri. Would have ended brutally for me by the looks of it
That's the thing, it isn't just the decision of playing Czibor on the right, it's playing Czibor on the right ahead of Garrincha.I’m not really sold on the rationale for dropping Garrincha, but I’ve no issues in seeing Czibor on the other side.
Wait, wasn't Chhetri a sheep you got and didn't you have to field him?
Nevermind then, carry onNo I picked him.
Its more I rate Garrincha on a completely different level than Gento
With Djalma there as a bonus... I doubt it.Yea, I do too. Probably everyone does. I'll admit I was scared of Garrincha being ripped apart in a 3-5-2 as moby said before.
Yeah I can agree with this. I feel Sjor and Pat went a little too defensive to the point I think they struggle to score goals here whereas like you I still think Shaved has enough in the arsenal to overcome that 451
Despite the shocking Garrincha decision, would give this to Queenshaver. Djalma and Zebec are both excellent choices of course and think Pat and Sjor went a bit too deep in the whole 'underrated players theme' and met one of the GOAT laden sides here, and don't see that insane front three being contained.
There's also that game when Shesternyov completely handled Law in 1967, when Scotland was on the rise... it's only one game, but it played a big part in my decision.There is more then enough goals in this team, “going defensive” gives freedom to Robbo, Barnes and Gazza to do their thing.
There's also that game when Shesternyov completely handled Law in 1967, when Scotland was on the rise... it's only one game, but it played a big part in my decision.
Gazza looks a bit odd out on the right. Has the skill set to do a good job there, but looks like the most natural set up would be a diamond or 4132 with Barnes floating from flank to flank.
congrats @GodShaveTheQueen
Di Stefano really was like two players in one but from what i saw from Gento i wouldnt really describe him as a hard working player, he wasnt lazy dont get me wrong but id say he played like an average player from that era, most of the time he had the luxury to save himself for attacking phase while Di Stefano for example was going up and down for 90 minutes.
I'd agree with @Šjor Bepo on Gento's workrate. I specifically looked into that as I wanted to use him in a similar fashion, but he was rather mercurial in the defensive phase and often turned off from the episode — unlike Czibor (and Di Stefano, obviously).
Yea, the onus is on me to prove it as my view if different from the general consensus. In a few hours hopefully or over the weekend.