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"Lower quality foreign players" transfers will be blocked
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Luckily, we weren't going to sign then anyway. So, ha, jokes on you!
One would presume so.
the difference was that previously, any system has to correspond to the EUs freedom of movement. That’s not going to the case now.
I fully expect this is posturing, and a fight back against project Big Picture or whatever they called it.
Yep, we’ve definitely gone for it this summer
Why would that be the case? Evra had seemingly played at least 5 times for France before his move, Vidic in double figures. Ronaldo would have been the one of those 3 that hadn't made a senior international appearance yet but, as always, I'm sure there would be exceptions.
For instance, we bought Foyth 3 years ago after he had a grand total of 9 senior appearances in Argentina and 0 with the senior national team.
I personally don't see a need to change the current system but I think people need to move a little beyond the hyperbole and Brexit rhetoric and actually read the article in question, where he mentions the ability (in theory) to get more African and South American players for instance.
Great job on Brexit. See what you can accomplish when the angry low income mob gets to vote AND blame foreigners for their misery. A+ humanity ❤
Junior Harry Maguires are rubbing their hands 
What a fecking joke this is. All the money in the world for English clubs but "you can only spend your money on our boys!"
What a fecking joke this is. All the money in the world for English clubs but "you can only spend your money on our boys!"
Foythe is of Polish stock and came on a Polish passport
Well that's me told! Clearly I need to be paying more attention to our own transfers, I had no idea he was of Polish origin.
The Brazilian FB twins a better example then?
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Feck Brexit and the lying gang of cnuts who propagated it.
Like you said yourself he only played a handful of games in Argentina so under the rules he wouldn’t have qualified as a non-eu player
My understanding is that the rules have to change because of Brexit. The current system cannot continue.
It's already difficult for PL to get a work permits etc for young talented SA players, for example. This will extend that difficult to all EU players.
I can only see this as a bad thing. If the PL clubs can only sign established international players it will hurt the league imo.
Exactly. The big clubs will be the only ones able to afford the best players it will dilute the quality lower down the PL even more. Also it might drive fees up even more as clubs abroad will know the market here is smaller so will try to get as much as they can.
"We need to sign the next Messi" about to become "We need to sign the next Les Ferdinand"
I’m very sceptical that what you say is true. Looking at Lyon’s, PSG and Rennes youth squads and they have very few non-French players, far less than the 30% of foreign players in English youth squads. I’d imagine this is repeated throughout the French league yet they produce the best talent in world football through their system currently. Real Madrid won the UEFA Youth League last year with zero non-Spanish players in their match day squad. Out of the 75 players they have in their 3 academy teams only 5 are non-Spanish.
I think that what you need is a large talent pool through population, the right infrastructure and the right coaching. Then opportunity is the key factor in developing players. I think this is a great advantage that the French have. The French league is the perfect level to blood talented young players.
The problem with bringing foreign youth players into academies is that the enticement is almost always financial. This means the investment by clubs is higher in foreign players so the pressure for coaches to play and develop them is greater. This could mean that homegrown talent that is just as good or better gets frozen out. It’s certainly something that homegrown players have complained about at City with their endless churn of youth players.
There would be no barrier to a Drogba signing for an English side under the new rules.
Pretty sure that Martial would qualify on transfer fee and wages.
Fair point on martial though I’m not sure that the way to go either, surely that’s just going to inflate the costs?
re Lyon, Madrid etc. Pretty sure they are not hampered further by the can only sign local young ins within 30m of your club (or whatever it is, can’t remember for sure). Actually does that still exist? Not sure
I think you’re wrong on all counts here. Consider wage and transfer fee inflation and they all qualify wouldn’t they?
Vidic would qualify 100% I think because he was a full international when we signed him. Ronaldo would be at least a £40m transfer today.
@Classical Mechanic just thinking about it, using the transfer fee & salary, isn’t that just going to cause European clubs now to super-inflate the transfer fees because they know the British clubs will no longer be able to compete for players normally? A player who might cost 5-10m now will suddenly be available for 30m
From reading the posts in here it seems most have just read the headline and jumped into a seething rage regarding Britain/brexit/whatever
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Why is it a race issue? It's a picking up underrated gems issue. If they play for their international teams they are eligible, so they can be any race. The issue is that those who don't play at that level for whatever reason cannot be invested in, and that to me is not a race issue, it's a football issue that restricts the PL clubs unnecessarily.
We‘d have to pay more for unproven talent. That said, we’re already doing that really, look at the costs for Diallo and Hannibal already. It would mean that a bargain like Kante would cost more and it would be the end of teams nabbing a Fàbregas or a Pogba. The truth is that players that come through this route rarely make the top level anyway. Even in the case of Pogba he used the system to leave and we paid £89m for him in the end. Players that contribute as much as Febregas did to Arsenal are very rare.
Junior Hoilett is a good example. About 30 appearances in the German second division was grounds for him to appeal and get a work permit.
Deandre Yedlin another example of a successful appeal.
Joao Pedro too. Basically the list goes on and on.
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I guess we can sell any academy player who doesnt make it in our first team squad for £20 million then since clubs cant get cheap alternatives
Caption zones in England haven’t existed for years.
It will have more impact on smaller clubs I think bad United etc can afford inflated fees (though this new stubborn United may walk away from those deals)
They were on Portuguese passports, they have dual passportsAh good, that was a crazy rule
At the end of the day it is what it is. We knew brexit would trigger a change in eu player rules and a general tightening up of immigration rules for players in line with other industries.
Do I agree with it? No
Can we do anything about it? No
Time will tell whether it has a positive or negative impact on our beloved football
Do I agree with it? No
Can we do anything about it? No
Time will tell whether it has a positive or negative impact on our beloved football
I don’t know GB, they tend to feed on scraps anyway. Smaller PL academies aren’t exactly filled with top foreign talent.They can’t invest £9m in a Hannibal. The only clubs that really benefit from this system at youth level are City and Chelsea are far as I can see but they exploit it for profit motive.
In term of buying guys like Trossard, for example, I think what you’ll see is a lot more African players in the league as routes to international football are generally easier in African countries than they are for guys like Trossard in Europe.
A fecking "points-based system". Couldn't make it through the article with that sort of silly racist dog whistle shit right at the top. No doubt when we can't sign young foreign players for the academy we'll be told it's actually an "Australia-style deal" we've got in place with them.
Mahrez = Playing in French Lique 2 when he joined Leicester.
Kanté = Playing in French Lique 1 when he joined Leicester.
Wouldn't think there'd be an issues signing a Ligue 1 player. So Kanté OK, but Mahrez?
we want to increase the access you have to non-European talent
How is signing more African talent and less European talent racist?
Will we get our money back on Diallo?
Because that's what all our racist Home Secretaries say as they gleefully punish foreigners for having the temerity to want to come and work in "Great" Britain. And then they start crying about lefty lawyers and people who tell them shooting asylum seekers is illegal.
How many European trophies had lyon and Rennes won in recent years? The French league is 1 horse race were only PSG has the money to have a shot for anything. The EPL is different.
This is an FA initiative. FA don't shoot asylum seekers. Nor do the Home Office. I don't think it's possible to have a discussion about this with you when you overload your arguments with insults and emotion.
This. That's all it is really. Nothing revolutionary.
It's probably not possible to have this discussion because you don't understand British politics tbf. Put it this way, if we really do get "increased access" to non-EU youngsters, I will be 100% shocked if it doesn't somehow end in a child trafficking scandal related to somebody FA and/or government affiliated.
I was referring to the development of young players in academies. I can’t see any evidence that the current system with 30% of the players being foreign has any benefit to homegrown players. The example of France certainly suggests that your assertion is incorrect given that they produce so much talent with far fewer foreign players in the system.
The new rules will probably disenfranchise the smaller PL clubs and may make it more lopsided. Premier League sides will still be extremely rich and the top sides will remain competitive at the very top level In Europe because by-and-large the players they sign for their first team will not be affected by the rules.