London 2012 - Equestrian

The horse did all the work ffs.

What it memorised all that, would have reacted not at all no matter what the rider did?



For the record, Charlotte du Jardin comes from near where i live and is not competing at the Olympics through privilege. Nor were all of the show-jumping medalists. Prejudging can let you down on occasion.

Pleased for both ehr and Laura.
 
What it memorised all that, would have reacted not at all no matter what the rider did?



For the record, Charlotte du Jardin comes from near where i live and is not competing at the Olympics through privilege. Nor were all of the show-jumping medalists. Prejudging can let you down on occasion.

Pleased for both ehr and Laura.

The fact that they're making such a big deal about it is not a good thing. It should be an irrelevance to competing.
 
The fact that they're making such a big deal about it is not a good thing. It should be an irrelevance to competing.

Who's making a big deal about it? And if they are they'll be looking to do what most other sports are attempting on the back of the Olympics, fair enough.

How much of your criticism stems from prejudice, inverted snobbery whether accurate or otherwise?
 
Inverted snobbery is an amazingly easy (and also virtually the only) thing to throw out in defence of a incredible stupid Olympic sport. It's the race card for anything upper class that most people find ludicrous. Except of course without any of the meaningful context of that. Absolutely none of my criticism stems from prejudice. It stems from the fact it's horse dancing. It's Crufts with bigger animals. Why is it in here?

Though if you want to get into it, part of the reason it IS still in here is because of the power and privilege of the people who like or compete in it. Unlike say Windsurfing, which is being removed from the next Olympics despite being an actual sport because it probably doesn't have the same high profile people championing it.

I have no problem with posh sports. Hell, I have no problem with the other equestrian events. Rowing is largely a posh sport. but it's also a proper sport. And not one you need to own an amazingly expensive animal to have any chance of competing in, and not one that involves making that animal dance to music in a competition that's supposed to be the pinnacle of athletic skill and endurance.

As for "whose making a big deal out of it"...ALL the commentators. Who were going to great lengths to point out that she didn't have the usual means to acquire the training (and horse) for such an event, and thus what achievement it was, and also to what efforts her team had gone to even keep the thing. So while I've no problem with the recreational pursuits of posh people - it's not like I'm from a sink estate or anything myself - I don't think they should be included in the Olympic games if they are so significantly niche and hard to attain. But even then, it's overwhelmingly simply because it just fecking animals dancing! Fox hunting's more of a sport than this.
 
Inverted snobbery is an amazingly easy (and also virtually the only) thing to throw out in defence of a incredible stupid Olympic sport. It's the race card for anything upper class that most people find ludicrous. Except of course without any of the meaningful context of that. Absolutely none of my criticism stems from prejudice. It stems from the fact it's horse dancing. It's Crufts with bigger animals. Why is it in here?

Though if you want to get into it, part of the reason it IS still in here is because of the power and privilege of the people who like or compete in it. Unlike say Windsurfing, which is being removed from the next Olympics despite being an actual sport because it probably doesn't have the same high profile people championing it.

I have no problem with posh sports. Hell, I have no problem with the other equestrian events. Rowing is largely a posh sport. but it's also a proper sport. And not one you need to own an amazingly expensive animal to have any chance of competing in, and not one that involves making that animal dance to music in a competition that's supposed to be the pinnacle of athletic skill and endurance.

As for "whose making a big deal out of it"...ALL the commentators. Who were going to great lengths to point out that she didn't have the usual means to acquire the training (and horse) for such an event, and thus what achievement it was, and also to what efforts her team had gone to even keep the thing. So while I've no problem with the recreational pursuits of posh people - it's not like I'm from a sink estate or anything myself - I don't think they should be included in the Olympic games if they are so significantly niche and hard to attain. But even then, it's overwhelmingly simply because it just fecking animals dancing! Fox hunting's more of a sport than this.

When was the last time you went to a stable or equestrian centre, if the answer be negative i would suggest that the demographic could come as a surprise.

It is also not actually necessary for those who compete to own the horse themselves, indeed many do not. The Dutch silver medalist is a former schoolteacher, a lot of this is a matter of priorities and commitment just like with other sports..

You say that you have no problem with the other equestrian disciplines yet you would be getting rid of the the Three Day Evenitng too.

You claim that prejudice lays no role yet use the term "posh" throughout. From where i sit and whether this applies in your case or not [it does for some people],i do not hold to the view that discrimination is fine and dandy just because somebody has a few more pounds in the bank Life is more complicated than that.

I respect sporting endeavour and achievement for what it is, simple as that. What Charlotte or Laura are capable of doing in partnership with their horse is no easy thing, it requires effort dont mistake that.

Of course we can debate the removal of certain sports over others, however there are far more worthy contenders than those of the equestrian variety IMO. Beyond that keep something like windsurfing and instead shut the door on golf.
 
How about Russian bear dancing? Why isn't that an olympic sport?

Well if Bear Dancing is in Snake Charming should be included....at last an event the Indians can dominate....or at least win a fecking medal.