Was hoping the fee was a bit, ahem, smaller.
Lisandro Martinez | Man Utd player - Contract till 2027, with the option to extend for a further year
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Assuming the visa gets sorted then welcome Linsandro! Personally, a little more skeptical about this signing, it’s a lot of money for a player who may find playing against premier league strikers problematic in his first year here.
But I understand the premise of the signing. He is aggressive, vocal, comfortable in possession and slots in that LCB position. I hope ETH knows what he’s doing with this one.
But I understand the premise of the signing. He is aggressive, vocal, comfortable in possession and slots in that LCB position. I hope ETH knows what he’s doing with this one.
Most expensive player ever (per inch)?
Anyone else getting Mascherano vibes? 
Hope he serves us well.
Im a little excited by this signing.
People are going to be very surprised when they watch him.
The guy is consistent and is underrated.
Good stuff.
Remember reading the below bid of random analysis of ETH's Ajax and being concerned in terms of how our CBs would cope with the demands placed on them. This signing helps, a lot.
Remember reading the below bid of random analysis of ETH's Ajax and being concerned in terms of how our CBs would cope with the demands placed on them. This signing helps, a lot.
When pressed from goal-kicks, Ajax utilised vertical decoy runs from their centrebacks to open passing lanes directly from the keeper. Ajax could play out – or at least play to areas of lower risk despite sticking to their principles. The degree of tactical complexity that the centrebacks must be aware of is rare – centrebacks do not usually move ahead of play in this regard, as they’re typically the most important constituents of rest defence (rest defence = predictive defending in possession).
Even from a throw in, we can see how aggressive Martinez is at occupying vacated space, making himself an option. This occurred despite causing him and Timber (the centreback pair) to stagger to quite a severe degree. It *appears* high risk.
Furthermore, in settled build-up, Martinez was often found vacating his post in centreback entirely. It may be a stretch to call him a centreback in this regard, because of how much conviction he’d stagger the lines with.
Alvarez, one of the deep midfielders actually dis-marked to receive deep in this scenario. Martinez is still seen staggering the lines. This is a vertical rotation as such: the CB advancing and the CM dropping in. Blind (out of shot) has dropped narrow to aid rest defence.
These vertical counter-movements are typically seen further up the pitch, when looking to progress (and sometimes force) play. Seeing it executed with such regularity in deep positions in build-up is unconventional.
Let’s go!
Is he shorter than Puyol, Cannavaro and Ivan Cordoba?
Good to get a player from ETHs short-list
Decent singing. Again strange in that we have signed 3 players and none are for sure starters.
Time will tell on that front.
Fee is crazy though
Time will tell on that front.
Fee is crazy though
Guy is basically my exact size, and I can tell you all, I wouldn't make it in the EPL.
He’s shorter than all of them…combined.
What the feck is a solidarity payment?
I've been burnt by too many mediocre centre backs over the last 10 years to even think about getting excited about this.
Hopefully he is the one.
Hopefully he is the one.
Cannavaro could do it, so basically anyone can.
Heh
He won't be. Because he'll play in midfield.
Agreement reached?
Go home United you're drunk
Go home United you're drunk
That would be a nope
We really made short work of this deal.
Then I would wonder why we've bought someone who hasn't played in midfield for something like 3 years to play in midfield instead of an actual midfielder... but in ETH we trust.
Think he will play as the inverted RW with him being left footed
Again no announcement pictures.
Not even a piano?
Not even a piano?
He won’t hit the heights Maguire has.
Our manager didn’t play him there for the last three years, our manager also said he doesn’t have the stamina to play midfield.
The club must be planning something
Why are people so sure he wont play DM? I hope they ask ETH this very quickly.
Jumping the gun a bit with this one, we generally close the TF thread and open the UF one when he has actually started signed. This is pending work permit which should be ok but Tories..
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Because ETH himself said he doesn't see him as a midfielder. Things may change, sure, but he didn't really play CM for Ajax in recent years as well
Because he played mostly CB for Ajax and ETH said that is his best position.
That’s a lot of money for a center back only a season after spending on Varane and a fortune on Maguire prior to it. I seriously hope Ten Hag is right in this one.
Great to get this lad across the line, hopefully he'll play a big part in what EtH is building here.
That's not really context, it's just one other massively overpriced signing.It's a big fee but then it's worth remembering that the likes of Ben White cost £52m; I guess with context it's not so bad
The context is we've paid 55m for a defender from the Dutch league that's yet to become an established international. It's a lot of money but I've got a feeling it will either be massively justified or a massive flop. I don't see this guy being nondescript.
ETH said it himself that Martinez isn't a midfielder because he doesn't have the stamina for it. Hence why he plays CB for 2 or 3 years now.
Not sure why people can't wrap their heads around this.
Reopened, hopefully work permit is just a breeze
Yeah given United announced it on twitter I feel like it's fine to have it on the United forum.
Excited to see him. Reckon he'll be a great signing. Only 24 too.
Excited to see him. Reckon he'll be a great signing. Only 24 too.