It’s pretty cringe tbh. This isn’t a spontaneous outburst of emotion like when you see your club/country humiliated in a match of great importance, this is a grown ass man who chose to walk from his house to an empty stadium crying in public, it’s a teenage girl heartbroken over boyband type of behaviour.
Lionel Messi \ Signs for PSG
- Thread starter Damien
- Start date
- Status
He got what he wanted, some attention. Not sure that's how I would go about it but fair enough.
What's shocked me most is the Spanish media reception to this, in particular that panel posted earlier. The way they're acting, it's as if the idea of him ever leaving is inconceivable to them. Quite funny tbf.
I saw a video from ESPN on YouTube which said all this is just a power play from Barca given the investment coming in to LaLiga.
All the “experts” in the panel said come Sep1, Messi would be playing for Barcelona.
All the “experts” in the panel said come Sep1, Messi would be playing for Barcelona.
Yes, but has that been the case since the start of his negotiations? Timing is key.
It was initially reported earlier this summer they were cutting wages so they could afford to extend Messi. If it came to the point where he suspected they could not afford his demands and he decided to take a reduced wage, only, league rules prevented him from signing anyway. How public was Barca’s situation with not being able to register him? Just trying to ascertain if Barca used him as leverage to reduce wages knowing full well he wasn’t going to be able to be registered anyway.
The whole thing seems sketchy af. Couldn’t happen to a better club though.
Before the billionaire owners (including from America who are more than any others in it for the money) football in Europe was about the community and still is for many clubs. There is actual competition with relegation and rewards.
American athletes earn a lot more from endorsements compared to their European counterparts; majority of top 10 earners from endorsements are Americans. If they agreed to reduced salary to win, it is because the salary pales in comparison to what they will earn from elsewhere if they are part of a winning project.
Messi and Ronaldo are exceptions mainly due the fact that they are global brands. The pull they have on the audience is unparalleled. Most people around the world don't even know Tom Brady.
Taking all the teams together, European football is richer and its Premier competition, the champions league earns far more than super bowl. However, individual teams are wealthier than most European counterparts because of the closed shop system designed to maximise revenue and a huge focus on advertisement.
Bradys earnings come more from endorsements than from his salary just like most American athletes. He can agree to salary reduction for a winning team because that would mean more endorsements and more money.
As a Manchester United fan, it would be disapointing if we didn't at least try to sign Lionel Messi. Surely we could offer him 400,000 a week at least. And can justify because Messi is one of the greatest footballers in history.
I don't think we're the team to go if you have a few years at best to win major honours, and of course I'd prefer us building a long term trophy winning machine. But it's Lionel Messi, easily the best footballer I've seen. The lift he'd give the entire football club would be absolutely mental. Even if City manage to beat us to the title, we'd see some spectacular football at OT for a few years. That alone makes it worth it.
But sadly I don't dee it happening given all the talk ahout him needing to be close to Spain and the first bit I mentioned.
It is the end of the world as we know it
Don't think he will sign for paltry 400k. He would want at least a million or more pw.
Surely it's on the club agenda to at least try?
He's Lionel Messi, ffs.
We'd be the only club to have had both of the two best players of this generation to have played for us.
He's Lionel Messi, ffs.
We'd be the only club to have had both of the two best players of this generation to have played for us.
City not even trying and Messi started talks with PSG only few hours ago when he's 'heartbroken' and everything was agreed with Barca... This is a) guessing from Romano, Crafton etc. so they're nit left behind b) was already happening for weeks.
Unless he's decided he only wants PSG and 'everyone' knows that... Which seems likely at this point. Unless they pressure La Liga.
One of the greatest player for 400k a week when martial is on 250k. It seems a very good business.
Sorry, who is Tom Brady?
Exactly
Us centric sport. Meh
Hmm. They might have been ordered to.
Remember, ESPN just bought La Liga broadcast rights for seventy-kajillion dollars.
CR7 is available?
Is he not on 2 mil a week? Why would he come to United for 400k a week while we battle for a top 4 finish and maybe make the quarter finals of CL or worse, play in the fecking Europa league??
I think it's the best for all concerned. Barcelona need to reboot and if they are well run from hereon they'll do fine. Messi probably needs to leave what's thus far been a mess in recent years, and move to a more short term project given his age.
But I also think him playing for PSG in the French, although it suits his age, is a bit of a step down in terms of domestic football. Messi is made for a top league, even now. But feck him going to City.
But I also think him playing for PSG in the French, although it suits his age, is a bit of a step down in terms of domestic football. Messi is made for a top league, even now. But feck him going to City.
feck him going to PSG too. Them and City are two cheeks of the same arse.
If he goes to either of those as his last club in Europe, its a stain on his legacy for me.
This
That's a bit much. I don't think it's a stain on the legacy of KDB, Pep, and co to be playing for/managing City. It's a stain on City to have the background they have but footballers just want to play and enjoy playing.
Says alot about him for me if he chooses to go PSG over a more competitive league.
You have me on board.
Yep but wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.
Nobody is going to PSG for the league, it's all about the Champion's League, and coming there to win Paris' first ever CL would be a positive, not negative on his legacy. That being said, I really don't see him leaving Barcelona. They're going to figure out a way, you can't have that story end on such a ridiculous financial issue.
I'm sure City could get him, Pep is there buying 100 mil players who play possesion football to a tee and both have worked perfectly together before. Pep needs that new CL win and Messi could be key to unlocking that door -
I'd be very disappointed if he joined PSG but as you say not too surprised either.
I disagree, and I know I might be an outlier with this, hence including "for me" at the end of my previous post.
Playing for City or PSG is in footballing terns taking the easy way out. Everything achieved comes with the asterisk that your team were loaded with an unbelievable inherent advantage that skewed the competition in your favour. It just doesn't mean as much.
The "stain" piece obviously comes from what these teams and their owners represent. I don't think it's enough for a player in Messi's position to just throw his hands in the air and say "I don't know about that stuff, I just want to play football". You could maybe let a young player away with it, but not someone who has won Messi's trophies so doesn't need the success or the money.
Messi doesn't need PSG or City, for any reason. Ramos the same.
Messi will go PSG (or City) and they will win the CL. Other than ridiculous amounts of money, I am sure that is also in the back of his mind that if he comes and wins them the CL he would be the one they point to
It's not like those 2 teams shouldn't be in finals each year but still
I am just surprised not every rich club is trying it to see how much they can throw at him and hope for the best. I know PSG and City can throw in some under the table cash but I think if he had an offer from all the big teams (it's not like they'd pay pennies either) and then still chose PSG it's easier to paint him more as a money grabber/semi retirement. But as it stands only one team is really going for him so I can't exactly blame him
It's not like those 2 teams shouldn't be in finals each year but still
I am just surprised not every rich club is trying it to see how much they can throw at him and hope for the best. I know PSG and City can throw in some under the table cash but I think if he had an offer from all the big teams (it's not like they'd pay pennies either) and then still chose PSG it's easier to paint him more as a money grabber/semi retirement. But as it stands only one team is really going for him so I can't exactly blame him
He’ll stay at Barca.
I’m just glad we’re not caught up in this circus.
I’m just glad we’re not caught up in this circus.
Imagine if Messi does go to PSG, ESPN's fury of spending so much money on that dead league and the one reason anyone would tune in gone before the first game of the season
Pure circus every summer.
Imagine if Messi does go to PSG, ESPN's fury of spending so much money on that dead league and the one reason anyone would tune in gone before the first game of the season
Disney about to rework the villains in their next ten movies to be Spanish.
now that would be incredible but I think the egos would get in the way.
No way are they assisting each other.
City already briefed journos they won't sign Messi. And clearly that happened before Barca's announcement so... they think it's a way how to force Tebas to make changes to La Liga's FFP or Messi already chosen his next club months ago and this is just some comedy how to protect Messi's legacy and Laporta but I'm not into conspiracies.
No mate, they lost the worlds best player with mismanagement of their finances for multiple years.
Blaming La Liga isn’t particularly fair, if they were a stable club they wouldn’t need bailing out.
- Status