What did he mean then? His peak years were certainly after ronaldo's if we go by my 2008/9 definition.
Ronaldo's ballon d'or win came earlier as well.
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Ronaldo's ballon d'or win came earlier as well.
It's so weird watching this era of football now, having watched him for 10 years before. It's a bit underwhelming in terms of individual talent?
I mean the talk of Salah being the best player in the world earlier in the season almost made want to throw up - imagine how relatively poor the talent pool is if that was actually true?
I mean the talk of Salah being the best player in the world earlier in the season almost made want to throw up - imagine how relatively poor the talent pool is if that was actually true?
He's talking about the times when Messi was leading 4-1 or 5-3 in Ballon d'Ors or 3-1/4-2 in CLs. Ronaldo's peak wasn't at United 13-14 years ago ffs.
Fair enough I thought he meant peak playing ability.
I didn't mean his peak was only at United per say , more that he had been in his peak from 2007 till 2017, while for Messi that would have been from 2009 to 2018.
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way off, 2019 was one of the best seasons of Messi’s career. He also set an assist record in 2020.
He was also amazing in 2008
Yeah fair enough, but i'm sure he meant the time when Messi was pulling away a bit before Ronaldo exploded again going into his 30s, creating some recency bias for younger (and older) fans.
Post-Ronaldo/Messi is going to feel really weird. These 2 are legends.
I see no other player at the moment that seems capable of reaching their level. Not even Mbappe.
Can someone one enlighten me on what the Finalissima is? Never heard of it before. Am I having a stroke?
New comp they created - Winner of Copa America vs Winner of Euro's
International charity shield
Yeah that makes a lot of sense for folk between 20 and 30 I reckon but not those older I think.
I don't think their peak playing ability changed much its just that the Madrid team became much better as a team with the inclusion of modric and kroos while Barcelona dropped a level after 2015, just shows you how circumstantial these awards can be but that's another topic for discussion.
It's worse in sprinting. Nobody gives a shit now Usain Bolt's gone.
I feel like tennis might head that way once the big 3 are done.
Being the best player in the world in any of those sports doesn't really hold much value, if you've watched the actual GOATs dominate them in unprecedented fashion.
He recently said in an interview that he was really badly affected by covid, it left damage on his lungs. Apparently he could barely run for months. One can only hope that with a decent physical preparation this summer he could be much better and not out of gaz after 50 minutes.
Never heard of it either, but it means something, i guess.
Ironic, isn't it? The guy essentially ruined all competition in sprinting for years by being so incredible fast, but now that he is gone and there is competition again, few bothers to watch it.
Is a world champion
Balon d'or?
Balon d'or?
Honestly I think it was mostly a motivational problem, must have been hard for him to change scenery after so many years at Barcelona.
I think he could be much more motivated for the upcoming season, you just need someone who can make him perform at his best or at least close to it and you'll be set.
They're reviving an older idea i think, there were 2 other instances of a similar match in 1985 (france/ Uruguay) and in 1993 (Argentina / Denmark).
New trophy winning opportunity created for Messi. Probably will be discarded by the next Euros conveniently.
To be fair, I doubt anyone watched it before either.
Not much room for enjoyment watching a bunch of lads run in an straight line for 12 seconds.
Not new, revived after 30 or so years
At least people can't say Ronaldo has done it on the international stage and Messi hasn't. Even though people did try to play down the Copa.
Interesting late-career peak with the NT.
Starting to believe that Argentina can win the Qatar Cup 2022.
Starting to believe that Argentina can win the Qatar Cup 2022.
Weren't you a full member?
But yeah they're one of the favorites especially considering their piss easy group.
Them, Britain (unlikely as they have a bottling soul), France and Brazil are favorites.
Spain and Germany are there as well but a lot more unproven.
They made it for CR but he failed in the EurocupNew trophy winning opportunity created for Messi. Probably will be discarded by the next Euros conveniently.
There was a cup final today?
Finally got to see Messi live today and he didn't disappoint! Some of his touches and his general spatial awareness were next level.
It was actually held twice before around the early 1990s or something and Maradona won it too. Think it's been brought back now.
amazing performance..
Argentines are very hopeful of their chances in the WC, not the most talented Argentina NT ever but definitely one of the best with the winner's mentality..
Argentines are very hopeful of their chances in the WC, not the most talented Argentina NT ever but definitely one of the best with the winner's mentality..
He honestly isn't as bad for PSG as it's made out but he was 100x more motivated for Argentina today. He was all over the place, putting in tackles, pressing from the front, winning the ball back, making super runs and running the game.
Winner plays the champion of Mars.
Just got back home from the game. The guy is pretty good at this football stuff.
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New trophy winning opportunity created for Messi. Probably will be discarded by the next Euros conveniently.
It's not NEW. It's OLD. Older than confederation cup that doesn't exist anymore.
New trophy winning opportunity created for Messi. Probably will be discarded by the next Euros conveniently.
Same could be said for nations league which is a big joke
Me? Not until Man Utd wins another PL.
He has always been on another planet on his own, pure magic. Ronaldinho is the most exciting player i've ever watched but Messi is by far the greatest.
Just proof that he didn’t age for Ligue 1.
He just can’t adapt to another team outside the ones he grew in to and are playing towards him.
He just can’t adapt to another team outside the ones he grew in to and are playing towards him.
Yep, this trophy is an indictment on his ability to adapt.
Got a link to the interview?