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You must have problems with your vision then because I'll be shocked if many players had more touches of the ball than him.
:lol: Touches on the ball. How many touches did Benzema have? Which touches mattered?
 
Stop coping and making yourself look like a joke.

He ghosted. He's finished. Deal with it.


Ah you must be one of those weirdo fan guys, are you attempting to "trigger me"? :lol: I don't really care if he's finished or not.

How can a man be finished if he was one of the best performers on the pitch?

Him and Verrati bossed the game until the defence shit the bed.
 
Really hurts seeing him play lately. Ronaldo not doing too well lately either.

His passing is just sublime still, and eternal, at least.
 
:lol: Touches on the ball. How many touches did Benzema have? Which touches mattered?


Err.. cause it means he was involved in the play and not ... invisible???

Benzema scored the goals. Nobody is disputing that :lol: I didn't claim he was invisible did I?
 
Just not that guy anymore. It makes sense why he went to ligue 1 slower pace if he had gone to a more difficult league they would have ran through him on the pitch I reckon. Truly the end of an era.

Not necessarily. He really picked the wrong team to go to. If he was at Manchester City, which he should have gone to the season before, he would be closer to the box all the time and it would have been perfect for him. Ligue 1 is actually the worst league he could have gone to because it is arguably the most physical league of the top 5 leagues. The issue is, he needs to be in a structure and he doesn't have that burst of pace anymore. His passing is still very good and his press resistance is decent.

The problem at PSG is the same at Barcelona when he was there. No one can give him the ball in dangerous areas so he has to drop deep to facilitate play. This is an issue because when he loses the ball in the centre, his team can get counter attacked straight away.
 
I always wonder, if players that can't be bothered to run during a match, act any different during training.

It's insane how quickly Messi's athleticism has declined, but that wouldn't really be a suprise, if he doesn't work on it. Otherwise it's also incredible, how long he was able to be the best player without really working for it.
 
Err.. cause it means he was involved in the play and not ... invisible???

Benzema scored the goals. Nobody is disputing that :lol: I didn't claim he was invisible did I?
Claiming touches on the ball is a staggering reach. He did nothing for 90 mins. Biggest game of the season.
 
Not necessarily. He really picked the wrong team to go to. If he was at Manchester City, which he should have gone to the season before, he would be closer to the box all the time and it would have been perfect for him. Ligue 1 is actually the worst league he could have gone to because it is arguably the most physical league of the top 5 leagues. The issue is, he needs to be in a structure and he doesn't have that burst of pace anymore. His passing is still very good and his press resistance is decent.

The problem at PSG is the same at Barcelona when he was there. No one can give him the ball in dangerous areas so he has to drop deep to facilitate play. This is an issue because when he loses the ball in the centre, his team can get counter attacked straight away.

He doesn't move off the ball. He wants the ball to feet every single time.

We can't keep blaming others for his complete resistance to making any runs off the ball.

He drops deep for another reason too. It's an easier way for him to collect the ball.

PSG have plenty of creative players to get him the ball in dangerous areas.
 
At least Ronaldo makes few big chances in a match, can't believe Messi has been this bad. Everyone just running around him like he is not there. So sad
 
The amount of CL collapses on Messis team resume is startling at his stage
 
It's sad to see him like this. Really hope he calls it quits in Europe after this season and goes back to Argentina or something like that. He has nothing left to gain here, and won't win anything significant at PSG, especially if Mbappe is gone next season.
 
You must have problems with your vision then because I'll be shocked if many players had more touches of the ball than him.
Had more touches = more turnovers

That was a terrible performance by Messi, deal with it
 
Not necessarily. He really picked the wrong team to go to. If he was at Manchester City, which he should have gone to the season before, he would be closer to the box all the time and it would have been perfect for him. Ligue 1 is actually the worst league he could have gone to because it is arguably the most physical league of the top 5 leagues. The issue is, he needs to be in a structure and he doesn't have that burst of pace anymore. His passing is still very good and his press resistance is decent.

The problem at PSG is the same at Barcelona when he was there. No one can give him the ball in dangerous areas so he has to drop deep to facilitate play. This is an issue because when he loses the ball in the centre, his team can get counter attacked straight away.

Are you really arguing that players like Neymar, Verratti, Mbape aren't capable of putting Messi in dangerous position? I couldn't disagree more, the problem is Messi and his lack of off ball movement. He is just terrible without the ball at his feet.
 
He still has so much class on the ball he’s obviously not what he once was. In terms of being the match winner he once was he’s probably done, just not Ronaldo done.
 
He still has so much class on the ball he’s obviously not what he once was. In terms of being the match winner he once was he’s probably done, just not Ronaldo done.
I think he’s worse than Ronaldo at this stage, I really do. At least Ronaldo gets in position to miss big chances, there’s still something there
Messi just disappears
 
Messi has been a lot better than Ronaldo overall this season, so all this Messi bashing is utter nonsense.

Yes he hasn't scored much or as many as Ronaldo, but his overall play is a million times more better than Ronaldo and his assists prove that, this season.

Messi was great in the first half tonight, and like all PSG players, did not turn up in the 2nd half.

That's it.

End of story.
 
It's sad seeing him and Ronaldo these days. Their days as the undisputed best are over and it's just not the same anymore.
 
I think he’s worse than Ronaldo at this stage, I really do. At least Ronaldo gets in position to miss big chances, there’s still something there
Messi just disappears

So true but also so funny :lol:
 
I think he’s worse than Ronaldo at this stage, I really do. At least Ronaldo gets in position to miss big chances, there’s still something there
Messi just disappears

Ronaldo plays as a poacher while Messi plays deep in the midfield, big difference..
 
Literally, the last good thing he did in the UCL was that free-kick against the vermin in 2019...

The Messi/CR era is over, for real.
 
He's 2 years younger than Ronaldo. Ronaldo at his age was still tearing up Serie A.
 
It's a bit annoying people act like Ronaldo and Messi owe them good performances at their age. I don't get the sadness or aggression or bitterness over their poor performances. They are old. Get over it
 
Ronaldo plays as a poacher while Messi plays deep in the midfield, big difference..
That’s why Messi is worse? He hasn’t the legs to play up top, he hasn’t got the ability to change his game.
to be honest why should he? It’s not a law to play at the highest level until you’re 36
 
He doesn't move off the ball. He wants the ball to feet every single time.

We can't keep blaming others for his complete resistance to making any runs off the ball.

He drops deep for another reason too. It's an easier way for him to collect the ball.

PSG have plenty of creative players to get him the ball in dangerous areas.

Oh that's a given. His laziness off the ball is well documented. He is at fault for that as well. He actually pressed this game which shocked me. Actually I disagree about the players giving him balls in dangerous areas. Veratti and Neymar kept losing even easy passes. His time is over anyways. Happens to every great player.
 
Oh that's a given. His laziness off the ball is well documented. He is at fault for that as well. He actually pressed this game which shocked me. Actually I disagree about the players giving him balls in dangerous areas. Veratti and Neymar kept losing even easy passes. His time is over anyways. Happens to every great player.

Their supply to him wasn't great this game, but I don't think it's a consistent theme.

But yes, he is pretty much finished as a top level difference maker in the Champions League. Time catches up to everyone.
 
Oh look, another collapse on his resume. I still have him in my top 3 of all time but he isn't the guy you want when your back is up against the wall.
 
I think he’s worse than Ronaldo at this stage, I really do. At least Ronaldo gets in position to miss big chances, there’s still something there
Messi just disappears

Much of a muchness I suppose. To me it looks like Ronaldo’s decline has been physical. He can’t seem to do anything right. While Messi‘s decline has been more mental. Unlike Ronaldo he looks competent on the ball but he just doesn’t seem to have the drive or desire to do anything.He just hangs out in midfield.
 
Oh look, another collapse on his resume. I still have him in my top 3 of all time but he isn't the guy you want when your back is up against the wall.

In my top 3 too, but if I had a game with my life on the line, I'm picking Maradona over him easily.
 
In my top 3 too, but if I had a game with my life on the line, I'm picking Maradona over him easily.

Agreed. He would be way further down my list if that was the criteria.
 
That’s why Messi is worse? He hasn’t the legs to play up top, he hasn’t got the ability to change his game.
to be honest why should he? It’s not a law to play at the highest level until you’re 36

Nope, you think that he is worse while many think he has been doing better since January. Ronaldo is a poacher and scored 1 goal in 11 games since January. My point was it does not make sense to compare both just looking at goals as Messi (as Messi plays deep in the midfield as a playmaker) has the most assists in Ligue 1 despite having a mediocre season and is the 2nd top goal scorer at PSG in CL..

And, I agree Messi has clearly regressed, no doubt about that.
 
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