Maybe he just wanted to play for Ronaldinhos other former club
Lionel Messi | PSG Watch
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Has he doubled his wages?
To be honest, for last few years I've been treating football like it's a movie franchise or tv series or something. It should be fun and entertaining, no reason to be emotionally involved.
They’d struggle with prime Kante if they are essentially 3 men down when defending
Messi is well liked by neutrals and joins one of clubs that few neutrals like hmm.
I think they'll go with 3-4-3 in tough games anyway. Messi can't play wide position anymore and what's the point of Hakimi if he has to play in back 4? Also allows them to have more bodies in the middle but will be interesting how they deal with teams with quick transitions.
Donnaruma
Marquinhos - Ramos - Kimpembe
Hakimi - Verratti - Wijnaldum - Bernat
Mbappe - Messi - Neymar
PSG's transfer window can't be far off that Madrid window in 2009 in terms of sheer quality they've brought in. Would not fancy drawing them in the CL this season.
Hopefully Messi's PSG further extend Citeh's European failures.
They're in pot 2, right? So hopefully go against City, Bayern or Chelsea in group stage.
That is still a hard team to defend with on transitions as none of the front three are especially bothered to press or track back. I suspect counter attacking teams like us, Liverpool and Chelsea will do well against them.
On paper Messi, Neymar and Mbappe is insane and against half the sides in France it will rip them apart but all 3 players offer little to no support going backwards, the team will be carrying 3 players in their defensive shape.
I'm crying lads, why did he have to end up at that cnut factory*? He's a phenomenon, only has a few years left in the game and now I'm forced to watch that shit show to see him play 
I hate that team with a passion ever since they were dancing around the pitch in that CL game against us, arrogant pricks
* money, his mates are there etc.
I hate that team with a passion ever since they were dancing around the pitch in that CL game against us, arrogant pricks* money, his mates are there etc.
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This is getting ridiculous. Even if he really earns 25M after tax (which isn't a given since no journalist seems accurate about that, they're all very confused by the gross/net/net after tax differences, a lot of sources in France mention 35M before tax, so 18M after tax), it would mean a gross salary of 50M, so 0.96M per week, basically half of what you claim.
And it's not even accurate since a part of this salary is image rights, which isn't taxed in France so you can't apply the same tax rate.
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You’re right - it is pretty imbalanced. I’m sure they’ll revert to a back 3 in bigger CL matches.
Their biggest challenge will be to stay fit and ready for the CL. You can afford to play a very attacking lineup against weaker opposition, but that might not translate to the CL.
If PSG don't win the the CL in the next 2 years, they must be the biggest bottlers of all time.
If PSG don't win the the CL in the next 2 years, they must be the biggest bottlers of all time.
Eh ? we literally just seen that at his old club Barca, he couldn't help them win the league or UCL with the likes of Griezmann , Dembele, De Jong, Pique, Alba and co so he's hardly going to make a great difference to a team playing alongside Granit Xhaka , Aubameyang, Pepe etc
You can be the best player ever but if you don't have great players around you then you'll never win anything (99% of the time anyway, i accept there is sometimes anomalies) , football is a team sport, you can get away with maybe 1 or 2 B Grade players but you need a solid core of 8-9 talented players to win trophies. it's like people getting annoyed we are not winning trophies with Pogba, Cavani, Rashford, Bruno etc in the team while we also have McTominay, Fred, Dan James, Martial, Lindelof, a Very Poor De Gea etc , what do you expect, there all not good enough and the names just mentioned make up for over half of our team and some in key positions, De Gea and Lindelof especially.
Messi will be back to his best because he has insane talent around him, why on earth would he want to play with crap players at the end of his career with little chance at winning trophies, he has no connections to the teams you mentioned either, the only real team that would have seemed logical outside of PSG was City because of Pep but that seems to have no legs.
I agree PSG is a boring option to the neutral like ourselves but i really don't blame him, as a football player you want to play with the best because usually you end up winning trophies at the end of it, Messi also hasn't won the UCL in over 5 years so I am sure this is what he really wants before he bows out the game.
The Sky News presenter just referred to him as "6-time Balloon Door winner Lionel Messi."
He will end at Barca,cant you understand? They will get him Back for one year after PSG
One thing for sure. PSG will be the universally most hated club in the history of football since Hitlers Schalke.
I hope they will lose a lot of games, because every player thinks he is too precious to run back and defend.
I hope they will lose a lot of games, because every player thinks he is too precious to run back and defend.
Its France,not England,dude)) they have 70% i think
Will this move inspire Neymar to come out of semi-retirement and play football full-time again?
No,he get less
What facts? The fact that English league is clearly stronger than the French. It's not a fact? When did you last look at rankings?
What has laying waste to every top English team even have to do with it? The league is still a bigger challenge than the French.
It's not Messi's quality we're arguing against, it's his appetite to take on another hard challenge. He's going to the worst of the top 5 leagues, joining a team that's won the title 7 times in the last 9 years and one that has 10 times the budget of the second team. Again, facts.
Your strawman arguments are laughable.
He has destroyed his legacy. My estimation of him plummeted when I heard the news. Of all the clubs he could have gone to, he chose the most plastic, despicable of them all just to line his pockets.
You can't believe that joining PSG is the same challenge as joining City?
Neither have won CL, City are in an infinitely more competitive and challenging league.
That's one of the worst arguments I've seen in favour of Messi joining a team that makes him irrelevant other than CL game weeks.
Money talks. He has won everything at club level and now its a time to enjoy his time in Paris getting a nice contract.
Realistically, he only needs to turn up for 10 CL games? The rest of the time he can play at walking pace.
Would have loved to see him in United, but other than that. Why the feck you would even want him to be in City or Chelsea shirt, that is basically saying bye bye to our PL ambitions.
Which other team should he have gone to then??
no actually, which other teams had a package offer formally laid out on the table for him?? Other than PSG?
As far as we are aware, and the media, there was only one option available
and considering he can’t go back to Barca…..what’s he to do?
You are literally saying he’s a fool for taking the only offer made
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a discussion as full of bitterness as the Messi to PSG threads.
Fans are not a hive mind, each has their own opinions and everything you do as a player, some fans will agree and some will disagree. The fact that there'll always be criticism doesn't mean it comes form the same people who act bipolar though. We weren't even in for him as Utd, so I'm not sure how the last sentence stacks up.
I don't blame him for going to PSG, I would definitely be doing the same. It's not a character flaw that he's choosing the fattest pay packet in the easiest of the top 5 leagues for his twilight years. It's a conscious choice that shows his priorities. they're not bad or good.
I doubt he would have gone with PSG, if City or anyother club came up with an attractive contract. Cristiano didn't went to Juventus because of challenge, he went because they offered him more money than Real, and he knew Juventus will give him a chance to challenge for CL, outside of Real given they came close twice last decade.
Money talks, and all this challenge thing is a romanticism which practically is not possible.
Would I have loved to see Messi in PL with United, definitely, having the bragging rights of having employed both Cristiano and Messi is something surreal.
If football business is disgusting then this deal is the crown jewel.
Wtf are you on about? Of course it's possible, plenty of players turned away more money either for the love of their local club or for a playing in more challenging leagues.
It's rare, sure, but impossible? Come off it.
Fans are definitely a hive mind, like a very large amount of other groups of people. It's a normal social dynamic. But here the point I made is that it barely matters what someone does a large amount of people will have a critical issue. Also I didn't say that it was the same people, I listed a range of common complains from football fans.
Yeah, nothing to do with a team that offers him the most chance of winning a CL.
It's very simple. Would you rather the clubs and owners make all the money without players getting much? Cuz the reason we watch is for them no?
I have zero issues with their money.
In terms of history, ability etc I rank him above Ronaldo but I respect Ronaldo going to Italy more than Messi going to a farmers league.
Boring.
I highly doubt that. They will not be able to afford his wages. Most likely go to America.