Yep, some of the goals were on loan.
Lingard signs new £100k 4 year contract (Sky) | Official: Option to extend for a further year
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Yep, some of the goals were on loan.
Thanks mate, soon hopefully
Condescending attitudes on both sides of an argument are never good for a debate, I agree. I also agree on your point about what the actual quality of the squaddies should be, and I definitely think in the years to come we'll see that Jesse still plays his part, and this doesn't end up having any kind of big negative effects."The 24-year-old England winger will earn a basic wage in the region of £75,000 a week, rising to £100,000 if Jose Mourinho’s side qualify for the Champions League by finishing in the top four or winning the Europa League. "
Also mentioned that he has 14 month left on previous contract.
You keep changing the goalposts of what I was disagreeing with!
The video is 6 minutes and has all his goals, at whatever team it doesn't matter. 3 years of loans in the lower leagues and 2 seasons with us and his goals video still only lasts 6 minutes.
Him being on loan for three years is a negative obviously. If he was good enough we wouldn't have sent him on loan.
Its not a negative for him. We could've sold him during that time if we thought he was not good enough. Instead we kept him through thick and thin, and a total of no less than 4 managers.
It is a negative, your suggestion is just a bigger negative.
I'm not suggesting anything. Just presenting the facts.
I mean if one of those managers would have sold him it would have been a bigger negative on him than being seen as someone to loan out.
Anyway, the deal is signed I think its a complete waste of a squad player on a far too high wage but he certainly isn't the biggest issue in our squad. A lot more not up to scratch players to deal with before he becomes a priority issue.
Surely being loaned out or not doesn't say anything about how good he is now?
Just means they couldn't/didn't want to get rid of him back then.
How he was then means nothing as we have to judge based on the player he is now and the player we think he can become. (judging doesn't mean we have a say in what the club does, but we can bitch and moan or praise on here after all)
Just means they couldn't/didn't want to get rid of him back then.
How he was then means nothing as we have to judge based on the player he is now and the player we think he can become. (judging doesn't mean we have a say in what the club does, but we can bitch and moan or praise on here after all)
People don't believe this do they? Not many people in the negotiation room. Who could have spilled the beans? Only the agent really and he doesn't benefit from it.
I think it's hearsay from one person to another who told one journalist and the other outlets run with it. No different than transfer gossip in my ears.
I think it's hearsay from one person to another who told one journalist and the other outlets run with it. No different than transfer gossip in my ears.
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Our top earners
Pogba --- 290k (It's high but he's got a lot of potential and he came to United on the back of winning many titles in Juve as well as Champions league experience)
Rooney --- 250k (He's hasn't played much and probably doesn't deserve being paid that much considering how much he plays and contributes these days)
Ibrahimovic --- 220k (Definitely worth it since he's been scoring more than half of our goals)
Bastian --- 200k (Wasn't worth it since he contributed absolutely nothing)
De Gea --- 200k (He's been our best player for the past 3-4 years)
Our players who I believe should be making more than Lingard
Bailly --- 75k
Carrick --- 80k
Martial --- 65k
Valencia --- 80k
Rashford --- 20k
Other club players
Pedro --- 100k (He has won practically every team trophy with Spain and Barcelona and will add another one this season with Chelsea)
Willian --- 110k
Kante --- 110k
Victor Moses --- 45k (Same age as Lingard but has more of an impact than him)
Matic --- 90k
Courtois --- 120k
David Luiz --- 120k
Leroy Sane --- 55k (This guy was a huge steal by Man City, he's 10x the player Lingard will ever be)
Eriksen --- 64k
Delli Alli --- Not Sure but definitely not 100k
Sanchez --- 140k
Ozil --- 140k
Mane --- 90k
Firmino --- 100k
Now you do the Math,
Lingard is 24 years of age will turn 25 this year in December. He's not a young player. His goalscoring or creating ratio isn't that impressive. If we consider the top 6 in England, he would never get on any of their bench let alone first 11.
Don't get me wrong, he's a good player to have on the bench and I would not pay 100k a week for someone whose mainly a bench player. My assessment, at best, he's worth 65k/week. He's not going to be a world beater and does not have a high potential.
James Ducker reported Lingard's wages is 75K.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...rikh-mkhitaryan-says-still-adjusting-english/
I think thread title should be edited or that 100K part should be removed.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...rikh-mkhitaryan-says-still-adjusting-english/
I think thread title should be edited or that 100K part should be removed.
He's fecking rubbish.
Any reputed sites reported these wages? Please don't tell me it's from totalsport.ek or sillyseason.com.
Going to be an even bigger joke if we don't make CL and he actually retains his same place in the rotation because no class wingers want to play in Rostov on Thursdays. Except Jesse and Fellaini.
A truly dark day in the history of Manchester United, it must be said. I tossed and turned in my bed for the entire night unable to shake this off my mind. All I could see was Jesse garlanded with money while Pedro looked on enviously surrounded by his multiple champions league trophies with a sad expression on his face. I just don't see how I can continue cheering his goals knowing fully well that he fleeces the club on a weekly basis. Had he been earning only 60k a week I might have been convinced to get up from my armchair and wave my arms in elation.
Bravo we have money to burn it appears. Either Jesse has a helluva agent or our club doesn't give a feck when it comes to setting precedents. Everyone (if they didn't already) will wanna fleece Man Utd now. I cannot actually believe this, 4 years for that much money for Lingard I think 75K is fine. Every player has performance based bonuses in his contract, we probably must win the CL, the EPL and the FA cup for him to reach 100K.
While he is not the greatest player, I`m pleased that we are keeping him. Who knows, he might improve further. Recently we have been seeing quite a few players reach their peak around 28-29.
While he is not the greatest player, I`m pleased that we are keeping him. Who knows, he might improve further. Recently we have been seeing quite a few players reach their peak around 28-29.
Lads relax. It's 75k with 25k addons for Champions League Qualification. I have no problem with putting motivating targets in players contracts.
World has gone mad. Whopping money for an average player at best. Very lucky boy as I just don't get him ability wise.
You asked for any transfer rumours of him, sorry to hear you're not happy with those. And I think there are far worse sources than those three. Hmm, don't know what fans' opinions have to do with whether there'd be takers for Lingard?
Yeah, I agree - Rashford's not going anywhere. That doesn't mean no club would be interested. Same with Lingard.Worst news of the season..
That's true for everything though. Nobody can predict the future. It's 75k a week and as I said, even average players will demand 50k and will require 15-20 mill when we buy them. Guys like Ibe for instance went for 15m and gets close to 40k and Jesse is multiple times better than him.
Only 8 player in Real Madrid squad make more money then Lingard and the likes of Carvajal, Marcelo, Varane, Isco, Kova, Casemiro and Morata all make less.
No wonder players want to move to EPL.
No wonder players want to move to EPL.
But players here have to pay tax.
That's more due to the managerial changes which have led to us paying half a million a week for Rooney & Basti (yes I know he's now gone) for turning up to training.
You'd be very Happy Together
Hasn't he been on 25k/w for something like 6 years? Or something similar I thought I read?
I thought it was genuinely absurd that people who are so obsessed with wage parity that they weren't going into bat non stop for Lingard who was a first team player on such a paltry wage.
Now his wage is over the top. I guess nobody can win.
I'm happy for him that he signed a new deal and look forward to watching his future unfold.
I thought it was genuinely absurd that people who are so obsessed with wage parity that they weren't going into bat non stop for Lingard who was a first team player on such a paltry wage.
Now his wage is over the top. I guess nobody can win.
I'm happy for him that he signed a new deal and look forward to watching his future unfold.
Source?
Everyone pays tax.
This is from Daily mail article in November 2016.
That doesn't even make sense. They have taken total salary and divided by some number. How they came up with that number is beyond anyone. There are 100s of staff who are on payroll so no journalist can come up with accurate numbers.
Bunch of sites reporting the same thing. Don't know how accurate it is but it doesn't matter. 100k for Lingard is madness. For compairison Lucas Vasquez gets 30k.
But then again we had BFS on 200k a week training with youth for the better part of the season and Rooney on 250k as a bench warmer.
Lingard on the other hand scored in FA Cup and Charity Shield final for us, he's youth product/homegrown talent, does what's asked from him and he's still 24.
Maybe not so bad after all, maybe this will motivate him to work even harder.
Lingard on the other hand scored in FA Cup and Charity Shield final for us, he's youth product/homegrown talent, does what's asked from him and he's still 24.
Maybe not so bad after all, maybe this will motivate him to work even harder.
Which sites? Sillyseason.com, totalsportek?
Its not the pay per se its the quality of player. If Lingard was a great player they could pay him £500,000 a week, its not my money. Its the quality that needs to be bought in. We are not going to get anywhere near the top keeping him, and reportedly offering new contracts to Fellaini and a past it Carrick. The comparisons that I and others have put on here are showing the gulf in the quality of the players at Spurs for example.
Should he go back to them and ask for much less to prove his commitment?
Well Mourinho obviously thinks so with the contract he's given him. People are completely underestimating the importance of having players like him in a squad. I've been saying this for a while and Lingard continues to proves my point.
This. You are so right.
Where's this report?
Who ever is making decisions at the Club now is really onto something. First Carrick and now Lingard - thats some great business
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