No we’re picking him over spending a ton of cash on someone who may fail and who we then struggle to shift
Could Mateta do that job for a couple of seasons, mind you the price will be an issue with our financesThe issue is bigger than a striker, Cunha is a start but we need more players who are capable of breaking lines, progressing play at speed and who are decisive in the final 3rd (with end product).
Sticking Delap, Osimhen, Gyokeres, David etc. into this current set up will result in a few more goals, maybe a bit of a bounce but we will ultimately just have more strikers who are not scoring, not that I am advocating not signing a striker for one second, but Hojlund playing in the right set up would be scoring, maybe not as many as we would want but we would be mad to ignore the problem and stick a brand new shiny plaster over it.
For me I prefer Delap, I am not convinced that a player with the profile of Osimhen is right for us in this moment, and I think missing out on Delap would be something we would live to regret, would love to see somebody else coming in, David seems ideal but don't think he is too hot on the idea from what I read, unfortunately doesn't seem like there are many players like Cavani etc. who we could get in for 1-2 seasons to bring through Hojlund, Delap, Obi and Zirkzee.
I am not sure why anyone thinks we are in for Osimhen, he is the epitome of the anti-INEOS signing, he's exactly what we are trying to get away from. Expensive transfer fee, expensive wage, bad attitude, clearly driven by money. I can't believe this story has ever had any traction, you would have to disregard everything we have heard and seen from INEOS to believe we would sign this guy.
I think INEOS are sticking to their stance on these dealsYou just know Woodward would have been all up in there with a 400K+ wage package
Yes, the Sanchez signing and his wage package still gives me nightmares.
Was Delap this season that much better than Hojlund last season?People should stop comparing him to Hojlund. The difference between the two is significant, Delaps proven he can deal with the PL, the only vague similarity is their age.
But no familiarity with the league30M for delap is a relatively good deal, but it's a possibility this will end up similarly with Hojlund's deal
Always think that Schick is a reasonable deal, 29 years with proven goal scoring record and familiarity with current formation
Amad will be the RWB and it'll be Cunha and Bruno in the 10 behind the striker. 4 attackers, this is what all the top teams are doing nowadays.Still think it’s hilarious that’s so many think a striker is the answer.
Currently, we play with one attacking player less than almost every other side. Our entire wide attacking play comes from defenders.
For me ensuring that we have two proper attacking wingbacks is far more important. Two attacking wingbacks who are essentially converted wingers, plus Cunha make this a completely different side to play against even without a new striker.
If the manager continues to make our wide play come from defenders, a new striker will make a difference, sure, but there won’t be any huge change in our general play.
Amad will be the RWB and it'll be Cunha and Bruno in the 10 behind the striker. 4 attackers, this is what all the top teams are doing nowadays.
Like him but I think they’d want 50m possibly more for him.my worry at that price is what if he doesn’t do it?Could Mateta do that job for a couple of seasons, mind you the price will be an issue with our finances
Still think it’s hilarious that’s so many think a striker is the answer.
Currently, we play with one attacking player less than almost every other side. Our entire wide attacking play comes from defenders.
For me ensuring that we have two proper attacking wingbacks is far more important. Two attacking wingbacks who are essentially converted wingers, plus Cunha make this a completely different side to play against even without a new striker.
If the manager continues to make our wide play come from defenders, a new striker will make a difference, sure, but there won’t be any huge change in our general play.
The other factors are availability, purchase cost, wages, expectations (i.e being 1st choice, requiring CL football etc.) bottom line anyone who buys Delap for £30m is going to be getting a good deal, is he the absolute best fit for Utd right now? maybe, maybe not, but ultimately the field of players to choose from is not that great, spending £30m on Delap and bringing in players who will increase the number of and quality of the chances we create is better than spunking more money on a striker and less elsewhereAs helpful as stats can be, they can also be deceiving without the proper context.
Compared to all the other players, Delap plays for a far worse team, in a much tougher league.
This is what makes recruitment so tough.
As helpful as stats can be, they can also be deceiving without the proper context.
Compared to all the other players, Delap plays for a far worse team, in a much tougher league.
This is what makes recruitment so tough.
Probably early days. You're the subject of a bidding war I think your best bet is to keep them close to your chest for a while.Has there been any noise from his camp over which club he prefers? Presumably he'll have his pick from most of the big clubs in England.
That's my main concern too. Nothing against Liam Delap if we didn't have spent big money on Zirkzee and Hojlund already. But would also be the same if we got Ekitike or Sesko to be fair, just even more expensive.If it wasn’t for the low fee release clause I doubt we would have any interest. Spending yet more money on a unproven striker what could go wrong? we’re gonna end up with 150m worth of strikers with about 10 goals between the lot of them
I would be really underwhelmed if him and Cunha are our two signings for the striker and the #10 position. They don't move the needle enough for me. Also, if we want to keep control of the game better, we need more technically sound players who are adept with the ball and are capable of keeping it in tight spaces. I don't think either player has that ability. We need a Odegaard kind of player for the #10 position and a RVP type striker. Delap and Cunha may be will help us with a top half finish, that's about it.
A proven goalscorer, sounds like just the kind of thing our team doesn't need.I am not sure why anyone thinks we are in for Osimhen, he is the epitome of the anti-INEOS signing, he's exactly what we are trying to get away from. Expensive transfer fee, expensive wage, bad attitude, clearly driven by money. I can't believe this story has ever had any traction, you would have to disregard everything we have heard and seen from INEOS to believe we would sign this guy.
Isn't the disparity immediately obvious bWas Delap this season that much better than Hojlund last season?
It's definitely a big part of the problem. The ball doesn't stick up top when the ball goes in the opposition half and he's never in the right place.Still think it’s hilarious that’s so many think a striker is the answer.
Currently, we play with one attacking player less than almost every other side. Our entire wide attacking play comes from defenders.
For me ensuring that we have two proper attacking wingbacks is far more important. Two attacking wingbacks who are essentially converted wingers, plus Cunha make this a completely different side to play against even without a new striker.
If the manager continues to make our wide play come from defenders, a new striker will make a difference, sure, but there won’t be any huge change in our general play.
What is unproven about him?If it wasn’t for the low fee release clause I doubt we would have any interest. Spending yet more money on a unproven striker what could go wrong? we’re gonna end up with 150m worth of strikers with about 10 goals between the lot of them
I would be really underwhelmed if him and Cunha are our two signings for the striker and the #10 position. They don't move the needle enough for me. Also, if we want to keep control of the game better, we need more technically sound players who are adept with the ball and are capable of keeping it in tight spaces. I don't think either player has that ability. We need a Odegaard kind of player for the #10 position and a RVP type striker. Delap and Cunha may be will help us with a top half finish, that's about it.
I think so. Neither of them saw the ball much but I'd suggest Hojlund was more culpable there. It looks like we had 52% possession that year and Ipswich had about 40 this year, so our boy should've had it easier there. Then what they did in possession - Hojlund was pretty unremarkable all round whereas Delap's ability to beat a man has been exceptional and his ball carrying also above average.Was Delap this season that much better than Hojlund last season?
I agree with this. Of course a striker improves us, but they don’t automatically propel us to top 8 (let alone top 4/6!) as some have claimed.Still think it’s hilarious that’s so many think a striker is the answer.
Currently, we play with one attacking player less than almost every other side. Our entire wide attacking play comes from defenders.
For me ensuring that we have two proper attacking wingbacks is far more important. Two attacking wingbacks who are essentially converted wingers, plus Cunha make this a completely different side to play against even without a new striker.
If the manager continues to make our wide play come from defenders, a new striker will make a difference, sure, but there won’t be any huge change in our general play.
I think he is actually better than Hojlund. Him being the answer or not though, not sureThis lad is not the answer. No better than Hojlund - just another project that will probably wilt under the pressure of playing for United.
His stats are pretty dull, and watching him is pretty uninspiring too. If we weren’t interested and Spurs were, the Caf would be howling at Spurs.
Just watch Hojlund's movement and tell me a striker will make no difference.
His movement and position is very similar to Hojland’s last season when he was a bit more confident. Even at £30m I think he’s overpriced.I think he is actually better than Hojlund. Him being the answer or not though, not sure
This should be shown to those blind fans who say that Delap is not an upgrade on Hojlund based on g+a statistics. we play in 10 men most of the game, his runs off the ball are pretty poor too, Obi, Maguire easily get at the end of the ball limited time they were on the pitch, know when to drop deeper or dart into the box for finish. It's so frustrating with the hold up too. If there was a stat for that Hojlund would be absolute bottom too, not only he's hardly ever option to a pass out, but when he is he's easily showed of the ball.I have been one of Hojlund's bigger boosters but I would actually say I am surprised he is even winning 1 in 5 when it comes to aerial duels. His lack of any ability in the air is one of his most glaring issues.
Osimehn is a big unit and very much an old school CF so not surprising stats there, Ornstein has though reported he is likely off to Saudi in the summer and most PL clubs are apparently operating as though it is a done deal which further reduces the already small pool of options we are all fighting over. Osimehn being off the table makes Gyokeres to Arsenal that much more likely and that is probably playing a part in our decision to be decisive in going for Delap before the music stops and we are left with nothing.
Was Delap this season that much better than Hojlund last season?
I think the hot streak argument is a little meaningless. All the goals were still impactful - it's not like he got a couple of hattricks in garbage time against relegation fodder.Statistically probably not, but Hojlund had a fantastic 10 game period last season that flushed his stats out and was less effective for the most part.
