Napoli love their British players at the moment, I think the McTominay signing has them thinking there's some hidden gems over here.
Liam Delap | £30m release clause?
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Napoli love their British players at the moment, I think the McTominay signing has them thinking there's some hidden gems over here.
It's hard to know because there's never context for tactics applied. There's a big misunderstanding about xG in football where people will directly compare strikers from different team using their xG and conclude one is better at finishing than the other based purely off that.
This is where we are as a club unfortunately, in days gone by Delap would’ve been bought in as a no2 or even 3 back up, but will need to come as a first choice as we can’t compete for Gyokeres or Osimhen it seems. He’ll need to suffice until we become a consistently top 4 team again …
The striker market is pretty barren on proven attainable PL talent, really isn't much risk for any team at 30 million here, even if he ultimately ends up a no 2 or 3 choice in the mid-long run. He's better than Hojlund, profile seemingly fits the system, good age, potential to improve.
We need a very good summer and seemingly will have a middling budget, this would be a good start.
We need a very good summer and seemingly will have a middling budget, this would be a good start.
I'd really like this I think for £30m he’d be a great buy IF we already had a legit goal 20+ proven goalscorer for him to play under
Not many legit proven 20+ strikers around to be fair. Which is why when there are a couple of good strikers on the market in Gyokeres and Osimhen we need to move heaven and earth to try and get one
They may also be planning to play to his strengths which we demonstrably do not do.
I have just read the Liam Delap piece on the athletic, there are a lot of qualities to like his ball carrying and particularly his strong work ethic.
I watched him against us both times, was a physical handful, showed great movement for the goal he should of scored at Portman Road and the run that lead to Onana letting it in.
£30m seems like a bargain for a 22 Y/O ST with potential, Chelsea paid the same for Dewsbury-Hall.
Is he an upgrade? I would say he is, if he doesn't work out we take a small loss on him.
Biggest issue is we do not create chances, we would need 2/3 attacking upgrades to go alongside a new ST, with a new CAM & CM & RWB.
I watched him against us both times, was a physical handful, showed great movement for the goal he should of scored at Portman Road and the run that lead to Onana letting it in.
£30m seems like a bargain for a 22 Y/O ST with potential, Chelsea paid the same for Dewsbury-Hall.
Is he an upgrade? I would say he is, if he doesn't work out we take a small loss on him.
Biggest issue is we do not create chances, we would need 2/3 attacking upgrades to go alongside a new ST, with a new CAM & CM & RWB.
The problem is that at £30mil, he is affordable to EVERY EPL team now. Who will give him a starting spot that he will want? Every lower and most mid table teams will probably. Forrest will probably want someone with his profile to replace an aging Woods and as it's likely they will be Europe which will appeal to him I'd imagine. Brightons always a good place for players to go and develop usually. Even Bournemouth, Villa and Fulham have had a good seasons and then there's the lure of bigger teams like us, Spuds and even Chelsea (he ran them ragged when Ipswich beat them). Then there could be teams abroad that might want him for that price. There might be a lot competition for his signature.
Sorry but you're all deluding yourselves if you think Delap is going to cost 30M
That's an amount set as a release clause in his contract, United are not the only team who might be interested, if someone wants him badly they'll bid higher than 30M
That's an amount set as a release clause in his contract, United are not the only team who might be interested, if someone wants him badly they'll bid higher than 30M
Is this a joke?
There is literally no incentive to bid more than 30M, they are forced to accept at that price. The bidding war will be over wages, and who can offer him european football.
That makes no sense. Why would you pay more than the release clause? Unless you were agreeing a deal now to prevent other suitors, there is absolutely no need to offer more, they can’t reject it in favour of a bigger offer.
Agreed
Absolute rubbish, any club that wants to buy him just has to bid £30m and they can open contract talks with him. Why on earth would anyone pay more than the release clause, as a sign of wanting to buy him more?!
The only way anyone pays more than the release clause is to restructure the deal so the fee can be paid in installments.
Also, why would Delap care what someone paid for him? That would have no impact on his decision of where he goes.
You have no idea how these things work mate.
Yeah 30m we should be all over this. I really want Osimhen but it's hard to look past a PL proven striker for 30m.
Why would he chose Brighton, Forrest, Spurs or other clubs above us ?
If Liverpool, Arsenal, Chelsea are in the market yes he will go with them. why would he goto Bournemouth or Westham over us ?
For £30M I am in. Could try to sell Hojlund (or loan to Ipswich for one year which could be good for all parties).
He will have a lot of options though, including Newcastle if they lose Isak.
He will have a lot of options though, including Newcastle if they lose Isak.
Liverpool and Arsenal can probably afford to spend £60-£80m on a striker given the rest of their squads are in a much better state than ours, so they're likely to be going for Gyokeres and Osimhen, maybe Ekitike too. I think our main competition (if we really want him) will be Chelsea.
I somehow can't see Newcastle aspiring to replace Isak with Hojlund, especially if they qualify for CL.
I think they were alluding to Hojlund going to Ipswich and Delap to Newcastle.
The release clause isn’t the players problem.. Why would a team pay more than his release clause? Even if 6 clubs want him none of them would pay more, it would be down to wages and and selling the opportunity.
Newcastle are in the market for a striker regardless of the situation with Isak. They don't have much behind him and Wilson is going to be leaving this summer so they will very much be in play for someone although Ekitike is the name they are most consistently linked with right now.
This guy won’t take us any further than we already are. If we want to become a serious club again then we need to aim higher. Do whatever it takes to raise funds for osihmen or Gyokeres. He might be better than Hojlund but we don’t just need better than him. We need world class
You need to work on the inbuilt filter we all have, between thinking something and posting it on the internet.
No, you try to turn as many dials as far forward as you can, whilst accepting you can’t turn them all up to 11 straight away.
Yeah exactly that (and Delap is also a big drop in quality from Isak of course)
Why would any one pay more than the release clause stipulates ?
18 pages on this. Is there even anything concrete in it besides stating his supposedly release clause?
Think Amorim wants his CMs up and down more than anything else. Raise the physical floor, progression in the first half of the field from his CBs. Don’t think that works unless you have a highly specialised defence (and/or are in a league where everyone is a lot weaker) but that’s another story…
Good one. I don't know how to convince him. If United pay me, I'd do more thinking n research though.
One reason tends to be so that you can pay on preferential terms. It might be £30m upfront or say £35m with instalments in preferential dates for us
Maybe first team football and a starting position? I'm not saying we wouldn't offer him that but other teams would offer him that as a starting point when you look at who they have as their current starters. West Ham have an aging and injured Antonio and Fulkrug. Forrest have a 33yr old Chris Woods for example. Brighton has a structure and clear identity and Welbeck won't be around forever. We have history but let's not kid ourselves and say that we are a massive pull for every player right now.
We aren't in a position to be aiming higher yet, walk before you run. If we spend what it takes for those two it limits the budget for what we spend to improve the rest of the team, we have a lot of holes to fill and expect a high turnover in the squad this summer, if we go down that route of £70 million plus on strikers again I really fear we have learnt nothing.
The position has been an absolute blackhole for us for a few seasons now admittedly and I absolutely do not want us to gamble on Hojlund coming good, but United have to take a different approach in this window to reset.
Yes if we want to become a team like yours. A player like Osimhen would instantly get us closer to top 4
So we take a gamble with another very young striker then. Unless we get creativity throughout the team delap ain’t the ST for us. Right now we need someone who can create for himself and make others around him better
Yes, it has been widely reported that he is our most concrete attacking target by the Athletic amongst others and there is the obvious crossover with Wilcox and presumably Berrada from Manchester City.