Lets go for the sponsors!

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«Addressing the targeting of sponsors, Arnold told the group at the pub: “The protests: OK, protest to me, it’s my job I should take it. Protest to the owners. The sponsors have put money into our club, they shouldn’t get punished — what have they done wrong?”»

Richard Arnold

Would the supporters be willing to participate in actions likely to hurt Man Utd in the short term to get rid of the Glazers? In the past it might have been a question of sacrificing something in the short term for «a greater good» in the longer term. In general, that is something people are rarely good at. What is now changing is the realization that we might not be sacrificing much at all.

In my opinion, a change of owner was pivotal for Liverpools success today. Like most professionals who buy a business, because that is what it is to them, they had an idea how they could add value to that business. I think Glazer had that too. They saw a great brand with huge potential, and in my opinion that is where they are vulnerable. If we want to get rid of the Glazers, I do think we have to attack them where it hurts. And that is the brand and the commercial side of the business. I have never seen it as realistic to be able to force the Glazers to sell, but after witnessing the increased power of crowds on social media the past decade I am not that sure anymore.

Cancel culture is a thing, and «cancelling» every company deciding to be a Man Utd-sponsor/partner would be a massive blow to them. And there is not much they could do about it either. In fact, it would not demand a huge effort for people either. And it would probably be sufficient with efforts from a few thousand (not a few million), if well organized.

I’m not sure what would be the best approach. Honest reviews on google, comments/campaign on social media?
 
This is the strategy I have been saying for a long time is our best bet. We need United fans to email, call, tweet the sponsors of United and tell them, as long as they are associated with Manchester United they will be boycotted by their fans, the exact people they are paying money to reach. Companies start losing money they'll pull out or demand change, whatever.

Money talks, and the Glazers are only here to make money, if they can't, they will leave.
 
then complain that we're broke af and won't have another billion to chuck at the wall in an attempt to fix the mess we're in? Do you want the club to go down the Barca route? Also once the club's image is damaged with sponsors, they're not going to try and examine if there's a change of ownership or not, they simply won't deal with the club again. So the master plan is to damage the club long term?

You know what would work? If match going fans boycotted until the club was sold, at least then they can go back under new ownership. Those images on tv would send shock waves through the world of sport. An empty Old Trafford, not for 5 minutes in a game but for full matches.
 
Here you go

Global partners:
  • Adidas
  • Teamviewer
  • Tezos
  • DXC Technology
  • Apollo Tyres
  • Betfred
  • Cadbury
  • Canon Medical Systems
  • Casillero Del Diablo
  • Chevrolet
  • Chivas
  • DHL
  • Ecolab
  • Kohler
  • Konami
  • Marriott Hotels
  • Maui Jim
  • Melitta
  • Mlily
  • Remington
  • Renewable Energy Group
  • Snapdragon
  • Visit Malta
 
Strootman's Finger said:
This is the strategy I have been saying for a long time is our best bet. We need United fans to email, call, tweet the sponsors of United and tell them, as long as they are associated with Manchester United they will be boycotted by their fans, the exact people they are paying money to reach. Companies start losing money they'll pull out or demand change, whatever.

Money talks, and the Glazers are only here to make money, if they can't, they will leave.
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Then once the ownership changes are you going to email them again and ask them to associate with the club because we're in financial dire straits? what would that email look like? "hey so we told you to never associate with the club again but what we meant was under the Glazer ownership, now that we're owned by Jim Ratcliffe, we're all good, come back to us". You think someone is going to sit there and look up united's ownership change, communicate that across and then get that particular company to trust that the fans won't turn on the new owners too and in turn boycott them again?
 
Regional partners:
  • Harves
  • The Hong Kong Jockey Club
  • Sportsbreaks.com
 
This is a good idea and one of many that we can put energy into to pressure the Glazers to sell.
Must look up Uniteds sponsors.
 
Other than owning a remington hair trimmer, I don't even shop with any of the other sponsors.
 
Financial partners:
  • CB Bank
  • Cardless
  • Emirates NBD
  • Eurobank Direktna
  • ICICI Bank
  • Invex Banco
  • Krungsri
  • Laybuy
  • Maybank
  • Shinsei
  • Virgin Money
 
Devil_forever said:
then complain that we're broke af and won't have another billion to chuck at the wall in an attempt to fix the mess we're in? Do you want the club to go down the Barca route? Also once the club's image is damaged with sponsors, they're not going to try and examine if there's a change of ownership or not, they simply won't deal with the club again. So the master plan is to damage the club long term?

You know what would work? If match going fans boycotted until the club was sold, at least then they can go back under new ownership. Those images on tv would send shock waves through the world of sport. An empty Old Trafford, not for 5 minutes in a game but for full matches.
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I'm curious. How many businesses in Manchester depend on the games?

Also, could the team be moved to play somewhere else in the short term if there's unrest? You know -- like to London or Tampa.
 
Devil_forever said:
Then once the ownership changes are you going to email them again and ask them to associate with the club because we're in financial dire straits? what would that email look like? "hey so we told you to never associate with the club again but what we meant was under the Glazer ownership, now that we're owned by Jim Ratcliffe, we're all good, come back to us". You think someone is going to sit there and look up united's ownership change, communicate that across and then get that particular company to trust that the fans won't turn on the new owners too and in turn boycott them again?
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Corporations are all about money, they lose money, they'll leave. If United got bought by someone like Jim Ratcliffe this would be massive world wide news, it would inject a sense of excitement around United that's been missing for a long time. Just like the world knows we are in a shit situation now, they'll know we are in a good situation when that happens too, and companies will line up to get on that train.
 
Media partners:
  • 365 Media
  • Cytavision
  • Go
  • PCCW
  • Spark
  • Startimes
  • Teleclub
  • TV 2
  • United Media
 
Strootman's Finger said:
Corporations are all about money, they lose money, they'll leave. If United got bought by someone like Jim Ratcliffe this would be massive world wide news, it would inject a sense of excitement around United that's been missing for a long time. Just like the world knows we are in a shit situation now, they'll know we are in a good situation when that happens too, and companies will line up to get on that train.
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No they wouldn’t. Not if being associated with the club has lead to loss of revenues and negative press already. There are too many other clubs in the world that they could partner up with instead.
 
Charity partners:
  • Manchester United Foundation
  • United for UNICEF
  • Sir Bobby Charlton Foundation
  • Manchester United First Team Squad
 
Mickeza said:
Don’t give them ideas!
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Someone said how small tickets sales were as a percentage of revenue, if they moved the team couldn't that number go up? Say they're moving to refurbish Old Trafford. Or because local unrest makes it unsafe to play there.
 
Devil_forever said:
No they wouldn’t. Not if being associated with the club has lead to loss of revenues and negative press already. There are too many other clubs in the world that they could partner up with instead.
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Yes, 100% they would. Corporations follow public sentiment, and if public sentiment shifts from negative to positive they'll be on board. It's ridiculous to suggest that United could be subject to a massive takeover by a billionaire and that wouldn't inspire a few corporations to throw some money at a sleeping giant that looks like it's about to wake up.
 
steffyr2 said:
I'm curious. How many businesses in Manchester depend on the games?

Also, could the team be moved to play somewhere else in the short term if there's unrest? You know -- like to London or Tampa.
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London would be great. You'd get a higher quality of football fan as well
 
Strootman's Finger said:
Yes, 100% they would. Corporations follow public sentiment, and if public sentiment shifts from negative to positive they'll be on board. It's ridiculous to suggest that United could be subject to a massive takeover by a billionaire and that wouldn't inspire a few corporations to throw some money at a sleeping giant that looks like it's about to wake up.
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It wouldn’t inspire any current partner that fans’ boycotts have damaged to deal with the clubs again. Once burnt….
 
Such a lame idea. Owners can just feck off at some point and we would still be that club who went behind the sponsors who actually paid the money .

Why don't we make that " empty OT" a success? The reality is , you can't as we still have a loyal fanbase who actually cares about the club.
 
harassing sponsors wont do anything at all. At best you will annoy them a bit and force them to adjust spam filters.

And while most fans will be respectful, you all know that the ones that will gather attention is the fans that to completely overbord and threaten, harass and lose their minds towards sponsors for no good reason.

The only realistic avenue we have as fans while retaining public sympatht is the most visible of all: Stop attending matches. Leave the Stretford End barren. Just stop going to matches. It requires no effort. Just stay outside. For months.
 
Tom Cato said:
harassing sponsors wont do anything at all. At best you will annoy them a bit and force them to adjust spam filters.

And while most fans will be respectful, you all know that the ones that will gather attention is the fans that to completely overbord and threaten, harass and lose their minds towards sponsors for no good reason.

The only realistic avenue we have as fans while retaining public sympatht is the most visible of all: Stop attending matches. Leave the Stretford End barren. Just stop going to matches. It requires no effort. Just stay outside. For months.
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They won’t that’s the issue. They’ll talk all this big talk and what we’re going to do to get the Glazers out but won’t actually do the simplest thing they can, which is not to show up. I don’t blame them for turning up to watch the matches btw but then they’re part of the problem of enabling the glazers if you used their logic that sponsors are an issue.
 
Devil_forever said:
They won’t that’s the issue. They’ll talk all this big talk and what we’re going to do to get the Glazers out but won’t actually do the simplest thing they can, which is not to show up. I don’t blame them for turning up to watch the matches btw but then they’re part of the problem of enabling the glazers if you used their logic that sponsors are an issue.
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You're never going to Empty Old Trafford, they are people all over the world lining up to go there for a game. I am flying from Canada to Barcelona tonight, attending my first real football match tomorrow, I couldn't care less what is going on with Barca, their team, their club, etc. if 90% of the fans walked out I would sit there and enjoy the game. And it's the exact same at United, I wouldn't expect someone that flew all the way from China, Korea, Canada, etc to go to a game ,to boycott it once they get there.
 
Samid said:
Here you go

Global partners:
  • Adidas
  • Teamviewer
  • Tezos
  • DXC Technology
  • Apollo Tyres
  • Betfred
  • Cadbury
  • Canon Medical Systems
  • Casillero Del Diablo
  • Chevrolet
  • Chivas
  • DHL
  • Ecolab
  • Kohler
  • Konami
  • Marriott Hotels
  • Maui Jim
  • Melitta
  • Mlily
  • Remington
  • Renewable Energy Group
  • Snapdragon
  • Visit Malta
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Thanks Samid.
 
bond19821982 said:
Such a lame idea. Owners can just feck off at some point and we would still be that club who went behind the sponsors who actually paid the money .

Why don't we make that " empty OT" a success? The reality is , you can't as we still have a loyal fanbase who actually cares about the club.
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An empty ot would be great. Our fans are toxic, keep them away from the club and I bet results will start to improve.
 
my ideal day as an united fan:

i stir in my bed. it was a wonderful night’s sleep, thanks to the mlily mattress i was laying on. i rub my eyes and welcome in another morning at the marriott hotel i’m staying in on the island of malta. i reach across to the bedside table and grab my android phone with a snapdragon processor. it’s been charging all night with power from the renewable energy group. i open a web browser and check my crypto gains(losses) via tezos.

i look down and notice my ball hair is wildly out of control. i use my remington trimmer to carve a number 8 into it. i hope to bump into a lovely maltese lady who is just as careless with my balls as bruno is with united’s. i pack the trimmings into an envelope and send them via dhl to jim murtough.

my mouth is dry. i decide to whet my whistle with the only thing i drink that isn’t a melitta coffee, a heady cocktail of chivas regal and casillero del diablo. for breakfast i take a 250g bar of cadbury chocolate. the only thing my diet consists of. my heart stops again. i use the defribulator from canon medical systems to start it once more.

time for my morning ablutions. i sit down on my kohler toilet and take the nastiest, coffee-ey and chocolatey shit i’ve ever taken in my life. i test my urine for infections with a test kit i got from ecolab.

it’s now time to get dressed. i pull on one of my many adidas tracksuit and check the maui jim sunglasses i was sleeping in hadn’t broken in the night again. i was lucky this time and neither of the lenses had been knocked out and embedded in my face again.

i call dxc technologies. they use teamviewer to get rid of the malware my laptop picked up during last night’s hand shuffle time.

it’s time to jump in my car. time for my weekly tyre change to get some new apollo tyres. i pull up to the garage, drop the car off and head to the arcade to play some konami games and the penny pushing slider game. any winnings i have are chucked into an acca on betfred. i look at my snapdragon phone again. 38 minutes through the match and brentford are 4-1 up and maguire has been sent off again.
 
Samid said:
Here you go

Global partners:
  • Adidas
  • Teamviewer
  • Tezos
  • DXC Technology
  • Apollo Tyres
  • Betfred
  • Cadbury
  • Canon Medical Systems
  • Casillero Del Diablo
  • Chevrolet
  • Chivas
  • DHL
  • Ecolab
  • Kohler
  • Konami
  • Marriott Hotels
  • Maui Jim
  • Melitta
  • Mlily
  • Remington
  • Renewable Energy Group
  • Snapdragon
  • Visit Malta
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These all seem to be foreign (I suppose the clue is 'Global Partners') but the point is the worldwide support for the club based on its famous history will still attract sponsors and money despite what a hardcore of fans in the local area may think.
 
This, like other threads, is full of people saying we can’t go causing trouble. That’s kind of the whole point of protests or strikes. I mean look at the rail strikes - causes lots of bother but unfortunately that’s the only way messages are heard.

Would never support anything that threatens the safety of others or supporters engaging in intimidation (like turning up at the houses of club employees). However I do think this is one of the more effective methods available. The Glazers will leave if the brand is toxic or commercially unviable. End of the day if the money starts to dry up the Glazer siblings that just pick up the free dollar every year and have nothing to do with United will demand the other siblings sell up. fans will still be there even if the club has to go through hard times. That’s the difference.
 
Going after sponsors is generally a good idea, but it would require recognizable faces to push, plan, coordinate, and sustain a campaign like this. Like the one that started the Vinoy hotel meme, but on a larger scale and over a period of time. Bad reviews, mean emails, calls, banners during games, etc.
 
Something like this is really the only thing that would actually have an impact. People like the Glazers only care about money and the people who run the large companies who sponsor us are cut from the same cloth.
 
Devil_forever said:
then complain that we're broke af and won't have another billion to chuck at the wall in an attempt to fix the mess we're in? Do you want the club to go down the Barca route? Also once the club's image is damaged with sponsors, they're not going to try and examine if there's a change of ownership or not, they simply won't deal with the club again. So the master plan is to damage the club long term?

You know what would work? If match going fans boycotted until the club was sold, at least then they can go back under new ownership. Those images on tv would send shock waves through the world of sport. An empty Old Trafford, not for 5 minutes in a game but for full matches.
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Maybe that would work, but it would never happen.

I dont think Man Utd will ever become a creat force again under todays owner, so while I think your concern is valid (but not entirely accurate), I think it would still be worth it.
 
Tom Cato said:
harassing sponsors wont do anything at all. At best you will annoy them a bit and force them to adjust spam filters.

And while most fans will be respectful, you all know that the ones that will gather attention is the fans that to completely overbord and threaten, harass and lose their minds towards sponsors for no good reason.

The only realistic avenue we have as fans while retaining public sympatht is the most visible of all: Stop attending matches. Leave the Stretford End barren. Just stop going to matches. It requires no effort. Just stay outside. For months.
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Valid concern. But I dont think we will ever be able to stop a big group of fans from going to matches.
 
Will Sponsors really give that much of a feck about who pays them large sums of money or the welfare of Man Utd football club?

I would be incredibly surprised if the answer is yes.

The only way for Glazers fo leave would be via a hostile takeover or someone offers them PHAT WEDGE. The latter is more likely to happen than not.
 
rimaldo said:
my ideal day as an united fan:

i stir in my bed. it was a wonderful night’s sleep, thanks to the mlily mattress i was laying on. i rub my eyes and welcome in another morning at the marriott hotel i’m staying in on the island of malta. i reach across to the bedside table and grab my android phone with a snapdragon processor. it’s been charging all night with power from the renewable energy group. i open a web browser and check my crypto gains(losses) via tezos.

i look down and notice my ball hair is wildly out of control. i use my remington trimmer to carve a number 8 into it. i hope to bump into a lovely maltese lady who is just as careless with my balls as bruno is with united’s. i pack the trimmings into an envelope and send them via dhl to jim murtough.

my mouth is dry. i decide to whet my whistle with the only thing i drink that isn’t a melitta coffee, a heady cocktail of chivas regal and casillero del diablo. for breakfast i take a 250g bar of cadbury chocolate. the only thing my diet consists of. my heart stops again. i use the defribulator from canon medical systems to start it once more.

time for my morning ablutions. i sit down on my kohler toilet and take the nastiest, coffee-ey and chocolatey shit i’ve ever taken in my life. i test my urine for infections with a test kit i got from ecolab.

it’s now time to get dressed. i pull on one of my many adidas tracksuit and check the maui jim sunglasses i was sleeping in hadn’t broken in the night again. i was lucky this time and neither of the lenses had been knocked out and embedded in my face again.

i call dxc technologies. they use teamviewer to get rid of the malware my laptop picked up during last night’s hand shuffle time.

it’s time to jump in my car. time for my weekly tyre change to get some new apollo tyres. i pull up to the garage, drop the car off and head to the arcade to play some konami games and the penny pushing slider game. any winnings i have are chucked into an acca on betfred. i look at my snapdragon phone again. 38 minutes through the match and brentford are 4-1 up and maguire has been sent off again.
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:lol: now I'm picturing Murtough with a stack of letters from you on his desk. I'm talking hundreds.
 
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