Johnny Depp is naturally a better actor I think but Di Caprio is certainly up there and seems to work really hard on his parts.
Film Leonardo DiCaprio - Greatest Actor of All Time?
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Technical ability of Steven Baldwin is unmatched, but sheer desire and drive of Daniel Baldwin make me pick him.
Performance wise?
Dog Day Afternoon
Donnie Brasco
Serpico
Angels in America
Scarecrow
Dick Tracy (feck it, he’s having fun)
The King of Comedy
Angel Heart
Cape Fear
The Deer Hunter
Awakenings
Once Upon A Time In America
Also Taxi Driver, Raging Bull & Goodfellas/Godfather, Scarface & Carlitos Way are all distinctly different performances, regardless of how well they’re known.
And I wouldn’t even consider De Niro & Pacino the very best actors “range” -wise. I mean Streep blows both of them out of the water, for a start.
I've seen almost all of them except raging bull and dog day afternoon. More movies to watch, sweet.
Don't forget about Cruising.
No votes for Danny Dyer yet?
Tom Vaughn-Lawlor
Is this thread for real?
It cant be as no one has mention Steven Seagal.
His performances in Under Siege 1-2 are right up there with his GOAT cameo in Exec Decisions.
Never seen Di Caprio take down anyone with his pinky.
It cant be as no one has mention Steven Seagal.
His performances in Under Siege 1-2 are right up there with his GOAT cameo in Exec Decisions.
Never seen Di Caprio take down anyone with his pinky.
Pacino is my favourite. I even like the parody he became in the 90s.
Watching that right now, actually.
Serpico was crap I thought.
Going to watch Once upon a time in Hollywood this weekend with Pitt and DiCaprio, expecting it to be decent.
You should watch Di Caprio's brilliant performance in The Departed.
That's mesmerism.
Also, never knew Foghorn Leghorn had written a script, I say I never knew Foghorn Leghorn had written a script!
Serpico is really boring by modern standards, but it’s still a good performance.... nice poncho too
I forgot John Malkovic as well. Some of his stuff is amazing.
From actors around his age group, Bale, Fassbender, Gyllenhaal and especially Phoenix are all superior imo. Let alone DeNiro, Pacino, Denzel, Oldman, Day-Lewis, Fiennes, Hopkins, etc... company.
Some very good and enjoyable movies though.
Some very good and enjoyable movies though.
I hated him in everything after Gilbert Grap and before Blood Diamond. Even after that I always wish they would cast sombody else.
Even actors like John Turturro outclass him.
It took me entirely too long to realize you weren't talking about Gareth Bale and taking the piss.
I'd rate Joaquin Phoenix the best of the 40-something actors myself
Oh and underrated actor I love is Patrick Fischler
You mean Bobby Fischer?
Yeah, Fischler is very good, lack of those high-profile movies hurt him a bit in general. There are many fantastic actors you could find under that "A list" which are underrated and great in their own right.
Same for me. The absolute king in that division (still under the influence of MMA weekend as you can see). Ralph Fiennes is another one who has my deep admiration. His acting range is incredible.
The It's Always Sunny reboot was better. Charlie played Serpico better than Pacino.
You mean Bobby Fischer?
Yeah, Fischler is very good, lack of those high-profile movies hurt him a bit in general. There are many fantastic actors you could find under that "A list" which are underrated and great in their own right.
Same for me. The absolute king in that division (still under the influence of MMA weekend as you can see). Ralph Fiennes is another one who has my deep admiration. His acting range is incredible.
Yeah I always forget about Fiennes actually, he's done a lot of great roles.
Yea, strange to see how much Leo is lauded for Calvin Candie, when Amon Goth was decidedly a better villain (and not one dimensional to boot).
Yeah, Fiennes' Amon Goth is a terrific, faceted portrayal. Still recall Goth studying his own face in a mirror - the image of an arrogant but naive and self-doubting man pondering whether he lived up to the 'master race' ideal.
I liked him in In Bruges and The Grand Budapest Hotel.
''I want a normal gun for a normal person.'' might be my favourite movie quote.
Fiennes is very underrated like previously mentioned. Never disappoints. Even killed it as bloody Voldemort.
Yeah I had forgot he was in all three of those until I looked it up, embarrassing. He's in a cultural blind spot for me or something I think
The lack of Joaquin Phoenix is a disgrace. If you're talking a generational actor, its Phoenix. He's mesmeric.
Great actor. Still, no Daniel Day Lewis though.
Bryan Cranston has given one of the best TV performances of all time. He's better than Di Caprio.
Hahahahaah!
Not even of his generation.
Not even of his generation.
Notes on a Scandal with Dench and Blanchett was a bit of a masterclass.
Mentions of De Niro/Scorsese in here, and after having gone through clips recently, I can't believe the depth of what it seems like Scorsese was conveying, and the complexity of character/psychology De Niro was pulling off:
De Niro has the look of someone to me in this scene of someone who is struggling to basically stay on top of a repression/delusion collapse (for the purpose of sustaining calm/mood). Basically, someone who is under duress, and is convincing themselves it's okay, or someone who is about to lose it, but is giving the mind conditions so that this doesn't happen. When they're unable to sustain the perception that it's okay, the anger that's being repressed/kept at bay comes up.
"You mean organised?"
"...(collapse..anger comes up slightly) Organisised.." (0:12)
"You mean like those signs in office that...." (0:26) Next collapse.
0:28 (Looks up, snaps out of it)
"You like the place you work in?" - Basically, 'want' at this point overtaking ability to keep himself in line.
"I think Palentine's got a good chance" - Next collapse...as long as she works there, there's a chance she goes off with someone else, perhaps.
"You know you have beautiful eyes" - Difficulty is coming up, but reorganises his mind to see beauty and to improve the situation mentally.
Every line of dialogue in this scene could be analysed like this, with the collapse, then Travis convincing himself it's okay, but there's a bit where Travis' worry visibly collapses because he realises the situation is okay, and it's:
"I wouldn't be here if I didn't" - 1:45, followed by De Niro basically realising for just a moment it's okay, and that he doesn't need to be so bent up out of shape about it.
Stunned by the Scorsese/De Niro combination, basically.
De Niro has the look of someone to me in this scene of someone who is struggling to basically stay on top of a repression/delusion collapse (for the purpose of sustaining calm/mood). Basically, someone who is under duress, and is convincing themselves it's okay, or someone who is about to lose it, but is giving the mind conditions so that this doesn't happen. When they're unable to sustain the perception that it's okay, the anger that's being repressed/kept at bay comes up.
"You mean organised?"
"...(collapse..anger comes up slightly) Organisised.." (0:12)
"You mean like those signs in office that...." (0:26) Next collapse.
0:28 (Looks up, snaps out of it)
"You like the place you work in?" - Basically, 'want' at this point overtaking ability to keep himself in line.
"I think Palentine's got a good chance" - Next collapse...as long as she works there, there's a chance she goes off with someone else, perhaps.
"You know you have beautiful eyes" - Difficulty is coming up, but reorganises his mind to see beauty and to improve the situation mentally.
Every line of dialogue in this scene could be analysed like this, with the collapse, then Travis convincing himself it's okay, but there's a bit where Travis' worry visibly collapses because he realises the situation is okay, and it's:
"I wouldn't be here if I didn't" - 1:45, followed by De Niro basically realising for just a moment it's okay, and that he doesn't need to be so bent up out of shape about it.
Stunned by the Scorsese/De Niro combination, basically.