Lancashire - New Title Favourites!!

ralphie88

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:eek: Bit of a shock this: Lancs have just been installed as favourites for the County Championship. The two teams ahead of them in the standings are facing heavy defeats whilst Lancs are firmly in the driving seat in their match at Old Trafford. Unless there's a big turn-up in the games, Lancs will go top with one game to play.

It would be the first time Lancs have won the County Championship outright since 1934!

Come on Lanky! :)
 
Since you feckers are ignoring my initial thread and starting one of your own, I'll just talk to myself.

As promised - Lanky top with one to play :devil:

Pld W L D Pts
Lancashire 15 5 1 9 186.00
Sussex 15 6 3 6 180.00
Durham 15 6 5 4 177.50
Yorkshire 15 4 4 7 170.00
Hampshire 15 5 3 7 169.00
 
The other thread is much much better.... :angel:

Seriously, I never saw it, I was going to make one myself but then I thought it will probably get 2 replies at most...

Anyway it's only fair I offer the same contribution as I did in the other thread...

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We would have won it on many occaisions, but for the weather...
 
C'mon Lancs!!

I might actually go down to the oval next week for the game against Surrey. Would be nice to be there if they win.
 
I must say, my thread is of outstanding quality and beats this one handsdown. I'll be at the Oval next week. A win, wins us the title.
 
Shitty summer has fecked over my Lancs watching this year, only got a few games. In fact I saw England at OT for almost as many days as Lancs :(

Still, great position, deserve to be top only losing one game all season, who knows with better weather this might have been all over by now

This country really ought to do something about its climate...
 
I must say, my thread is of outstanding quality and beats this one handsdown. I'll be at the Oval next week. A win, wins us the title.

I'll be there - except I've just remembered I've got to go to Birmingham on Saturday afternoon for a conference. Hopefully they can wrap it up on Friday or Saturday morning.
 
Shitty summer has fecked over my Lancs watching this year, only got a few games. In fact I saw England at OT for almost as many days as Lancs :(

Still, great position, deserve to be top only losing one game all season, who knows with better weather this might have been all over by now

This country really ought to do something about its climate...

True - but if you read my post in the other supposedly "superior" thread :), it's probably the weather that has got us into this position because it's fecked over all the other counties as well for a change.
 
Don't think any of us have seen Lancs win the title. Now won it since 1934.

That's fecked up.
 
Don't think any of us have seen Lancs win the title. Now won it since 1934.

That's fecked up.

Don't think that's been through a lack of quality we have had over the years.

I always managed to come up with Manchester weather as an excuse (too many wash outs). Last few years I've blamed Mushtaq Ahmed at Sussex.
 
Don't think that's been through a lack of quality we have had over the years.

I always managed to come up with Manchester weather as an excuse (too many wash outs). Last few years I've blamed Mushtaq Ahmed at Sussex.

I'd like to see a comparison with other counties. Not sure that actually holds up, to be honest.
 
Bit of history:

Cricket may not have reached Lancashire until the 18th century. A match on Brinnington Moor in August 1781 is the earliest known reference to cricket being played in the county. This match was reported in the Manchester Journal on 1 September 1781.

In 1816, the Manchester Cricket Club was founded and soon became representative of Lancashire as a county in the same way that Sheffield Cricket Club and Nottingham Cricket Club represented Yorkshire and Nottinghamshire.

On 23, 24 & 25 July 1849, the Sheffield and Manchester clubs played each other at Hyde Park Ground, Sheffield but the fixture was called "Yorkshire versus Lancashire". As such, it was the first match to involve a Lancashire county team and also, therefore, the first "Roses Match". Yorkshire won by 5 wickets.

Never knew Lancs CCC was called Manchester Cricket Club.
 
I'd like to see a comparison with other counties. Not sure that actually holds up, to be honest.

I found this article:

http://content-www.cricinfo.com/wisdenalmanack/content/story/290173.html

Basically, according to the stats at the bottom, the league table for "weather" between 1971 and 2000 has Lancashire second worst after Durham (who weren't actually a first class side anyway for most of that time).

So maybe there is some truth in it.

Best weather:

1st Surrey
2nd Middlesex
3rd Sussex

Worst:

16th Warwickshire & Glamorgan
17th Lancashire
18th Durham
 
Read it. Lancs, Yorks, Glamorgan, Durham and Warwickshire have very similar rainfall throughout the summer, though. So, on the face of it, I don't think it holds up. . .as an excuse. Generally, the Westsiiiide is England's wettest. I think Cardiff and Plymouth have the highest rainfall on average throughout the year.
 
Read it. Lancs, Yorks, Glamorgan, Durham and Warwickshire have very similar rainfall throughout the summer, though. So, on the face of it, I don't think it holds up. . .as an excuse. Generally, the Westsiiiide is England's wettest. I think Cardiff and Plymouth have the highest rainfall on average throughout the year.

Well I'm no weatherman (although I have met Diane Oxbury and a fine figure of a woman she is too), but I thought the south wast got the most sun (Cornwall's the sunniest county apparently). Wettest place is Borrowdale in the Lakes - in the North West.

But on the whole I'd agree, in those 70 years we've had more than enough chances to win it - last year we WERE fecked by the weather, but we were also fecked over by ultra-conservative captaincy.
 
The latest forecast for The Oval next week is:

Wednesday: Cloudy
Thursday: Sunny intervals
Friday: Light Rain

Saturday's not forecasted yet. Fingers crossed it stays dry.
 
The latest forecast for The Oval next week is:

Wednesday: Cloudy
Thursday: Sunny intervals
Friday: Light Rain

Saturday's not forecasted yet. Fingers crossed it stays dry.

Does'nt sound too bad. There's a chance a draw may be enough, but we'll need good bonus points. The oval is a definite bat first.
 
Lancs are further north, which means later sunsets during the cricket season. So maybe they have an advantage over Surrey when it comes to closing early for bad light. Also, the Oval is pretty good for batting and drawn matches, whereas perhaps Old Trafford produces more rain-affected wickets and more results. I've no data to point to, though.
 
Lancs are further north, which means later sunsets during the cricket season. So maybe they have an advantage over Surrey when it comes to closing early for bad light. Also, the Oval is pretty good for batting and drawn matches, whereas perhaps Old Trafford produces more rain-affected wickets and more results. I've no data to point to, though.

Later sunsets maybe, but every September there can be problems with the low sun's glare from the Stretford End - as happened one day last week when play ended 13 overs early. I think it happened last year too against Durham.

Feckin weather!
 
Well I'm no weatherman (although I have met Diane Oxbury and a fine figure of a woman she is too), but I thought the south wast got the most sun (Cornwall's the sunniest county apparently). Wettest place is Borrowdale in the Lakes - in the North West.

But on the whole I'd agree, in those 70 years we've had more than enough chances to win it - last year we WERE fecked by the weather, but we were also fecked over by ultra-conservative captaincy.

Well, I have no idea whether that's right or not. . .but the SW is certainly one of the most wettest:

Rainfall in England varies widely. The Lake District is the wettest part, with average annual totals exceeding 2,000 mm (this is comparable with that in the western Highlands of Scotland). The Pennines and the moors of south-west England are almost as wet. However, all of East Anglia, much of the Midlands, eastern and north-eastern England, and parts of the south-east receive less than 700 mm a year.

Typically, it rains on about one day in three in England, perhaps somewhat more often in winter, though long, dry spells occur in most years.

Near the south coast there is an appreciable summer minimum and winter maximum of rainfall, with totals in July barely half those in January; western, northern and eastern coasts are more likely to see the driest month in spring and the wettest in late autumn. Inland, parts of the Midlands experience a summer rainfall maximum, which is a reflection of the higher frequency of thunderstorms in the more central and south-eastern parts of England. For example, at London and Birmingham, thunder occurs on an average of 15 days a year, but in the west and north-west the frequency declines to around eight days per year.

Facts and figures

Maximum in a day (09-09 UTC): 279 mm at Martinstown (Dorset) on 18 July 1955.

Rainfall graph


http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/climate/uk/location/england/index.html


Basically the Westsiiiide of Britain(Western Highlands and Wales as well) is the wettest. One of the reasons why the cotton industry developed in Manchester, was not because it was wettest, plenty of other towns and cities were wetter. . .but because of the humid climate. It's was not as humid on the other side of the Pennines for example.
 
Glasgow, Plymouth, Cardiff, Preston and Bristol are the top five wettest towns/ cities in Britain.
 
Latest weather update for the Oval:

Wednesday - Heavy showers
Thursday - Light showers
Friday - Heavy showers
Saturday - Sunny Intervals

Bollocks. Can we still win with a draw??
 
Well Ramprakash has'nt read our script so far.....166 not out in Surrey's 366-5. Lancs need to put in a special performance from hear.
 
Any chance the Mods can change the title of this thread to "Lancashire - Now only third favourites for the title, the useless cnuts"? :confused:
 
Couple of days of downpours at both games might do the trick
 
draw should do it, cant see us losing on bonus points alone and the sussex wont win if there rain, other game lloks dicy tho
 
Unless Lancashire come out of this game with a very unlikely victory over Surrey. Durham's win over Kent has killed of any hopes of even the weather giving us the title.
 
Looks like Sussex have got it sown up:

Sussex: 532
Worcestershire: 213 & 190-5
Close

If they win tomorrow they'll go above Durham and - barring a miracle at the Oval - take the title.
 
I'm not having that

I'm blaming Mushtaq Ahmed again, he's the guy most resposible for us not winning the last few seasons.

How spastic are Pakistan not playing him?

I don't understand why he's not their team. He's been the best bowler on the county scene for the last three years. Quality spinner, bowls with a very perpendicular action, which according to Richie Benaud is impossible to blow a legbreak with. (Warne's got a round arm action - probably the reason he's never been able to bowl a googlie.)