La Liga 2016/17

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Would be a real shame about both, but no surprise of course. Do you think Morata would be sold against his will? Wouldn't Real be happy if he wanted to stay as a sub for another year?
I think James would stay, perhaps waiting for a new coach, or a stroke of luck, but I think Morata wants to leave. I mean,he showed will to stay, playing a great season, fighting for the place and not complaining but it´s obvious that Zidane doesn´t like him.
About the club...probably they want him to stay, but 60m€ for a sub is very tempting
 
I have legit not seen a worse side than Granada this season (in the top leagues) (okay maybe Sunderland).

They are just woeful. 14 loans, 4 different managers including Tony fecking Adams, just embarrassing from top to bottom.
 
I think James would stay, perhaps waiting for a new coach, or a stroke of luck, but I think Morata wants to leave. I mean,he showed will to stay, playing a great season, fighting for the place and not complaining but it´s obvious that Zidane doesn´t like him.
About the club...probably they want him to stay, but 60m€ for a sub is very tempting
Yeah, I see it like this too. If he leaves, I hope he goes to Chelsea if Costa buggers off to China. Fits their style, would have a lot of fun with Hazard and would be the no.1 choice in a very good CL team.

Nice second goal by him as we're talking. Granada is abysmal today.
 
Jose could learn something from the way Zidane has used his squad over the last few months. Yes the Madrid squad is far superior but Zidane has managed his big stars well while giving chances to hungry young players in between
 
Jose could learn something from the way Zidane has used his squad over the last few months. Yes the Madrid squad is far superior but Zidane has managed his big stars well while giving chances to hungry young players in between

Their subs are far superior than us. When they want to rest players they play James, Morata Isco and Vasquez. When we want to rest players we play Fellaini, Lingard and Young. No comparison.

The fact here is us - the fans - call for the manager to rotate players while at the same time can't even withstand seeing bench players as Fellaini and Lingard playing games because we see them not good enough.
 
Jose could learn something from the way Zidane has used his squad over the last few months. Yes the Madrid squad is far superior but Zidane has managed his big stars well while giving chances to hungry young players in between
I think this will happen more next season when. Jose knows who to trust and when we start playing better and are more confident.
 
Real Madrid squad depth is beyond ridiculous. They pretty much have 2 "A" teams available all season.

They could play with their subs all season and they would still be one of the League and CL main contenders.
 
Their subs are far superior than us. When they want to rest players they play James, Morata Isco and Vasquez. When we want to rest players we play Fellaini, Lingard and Young. No comparison.

The fact here is us - the fans - call for the manager to rotate players while at the same time can't even withstand seeing bench players as Fellaini and Lingard playing games because we see them not good enough.

While that is true, our squad also wasn't as bad as you make it seem like. In attack Jose completely shunted out Martial & Memphis while also giving very few chances to Mkhi. In midfield he didn't play Schneriderlin at all and could possibly have used Schweinsteiger as well. Jose also didn't get the likes of Tfm and Tunzebe involved at all.
 
4 nil in the first half. No chance the first team does that. The B Team is scarily good. The A team will struggle and win it in the last 5 mins with Marcelo/Ramos or Ronaldo.

That's probably true but to be fair Im guessing the subs feel like they have something to prove while the "main team" isnt really that fresh and they had to save energy for the CL if they played
 
It's laughable how Real Madrid want Hazard. They can pretty much win everything there is to win with their current squad for another 2/3 years. Football isn't fair at times when a club like Real are capable of signing almost any world class player without the worry of the player rejecting them.
 
Refs fecking up Bas Dost's golden boot chances
Good to see you're focusing on the important things :lol:

This might be the strongest squad I have seen in my lifetime.
Yes, it's not even up for debate. Quality of the team from 1 to 25 has to be unprecedented in football history*

You could legit swap this "B" team for any of liverpool, roma, napoli or leipzig's starting XI and there'd be no difference to their league positions

*top 17(players) is not the best ever though
 
Jose could learn something from the way Zidane has used his squad over the last few months. Yes the Madrid squad is far superior but Zidane has managed his big stars well while giving chances to hungry young players in between

The majority of the players aren't that young. Zidane has a pretty set first 11 while Mourinho has rotated his team on a week to week basis, maybe less so in central midfield where we lack quality in reserve.
 
While that is true, our squad also wasn't as bad as you make it seem like. In attack Jose completely shunted out Martial & Memphis while also giving very few chances to Mkhi. In midfield he didn't play Schneriderlin at all and could possibly have used Schweinsteiger as well. Jose also didn't get the likes of Tfm and Tunzebe involved at all.

Depay has been a failure since his first season and his departure was more than expected. If the one who bought him already - LVG - didn't trust him to be a starter what will make Jose trust him ? Same goes for Schneriderlin. People keep saying selling them is wrong but they were both present last season and did nothing for the team and wasn't even trusted to be starters with our depleting squad under LVG. They're deadwood.

Mikhi was a fundamental part since December, it' about 5 or 6 months now with him being the most constant of our attacking players other than Zlatan. Martial is the only one who I can say you're true with but he also didn't help himself at all in the chances he got from the bench except in Feb. Also it doesn't change my point if he was a starter his sub would have been Lingard and people don't love him a lot.

The squad isn't bad, but it's not of the same depth you think. The subs are mostly lame and can't hold the team on their own as Madrid's subs are doing.
 
4 nil in the first half. No chance the first team does that. The B Team is scarily good. The A team will struggle and win it in the last 5 mins with Marcelo/Ramos or Ronaldo.

The A team is superior though. They would be just strolling playing against this awful Granada team and wouldn't be winning 4-0, but this B team also wouldn't have done what the A team did at the Bernabeu vs Atletico. Zidane deserves a lot of credit for how he's managing the team

Good to see you're focusing on the important things :lol:

We got nothing else to play for :wenger:
 
Why would Granada hire Tony Adams? Any second division manager in Spain or Italy could do a better job than him.
 
Why would Granada hire Tony Adams? Any second division manager in Spain or Italy could do a better job than him.

They would have been relegated with or without him. It doesn't make much difference.
 
Good to see you're focusing on the important things :lol:


Yes, it's not even up for debate. Quality of the team from 1 to 25 has to be unprecedented in football history*

You could legit swap this "B" team for any of liverpool, roma, napoli or leipzig's starting XI and there'd be no difference to their league positions

*top 17(players) is not the best ever though


It's not about the best ever this or that for me. It's the blend. They have young hungry players that are willing to die for the shirt and run through brick walls and then Zidane is a legend so noone can even go against him. He has everyone pulling in the same direction. It's SAF level man management. Tactics are secondary as we saw with Rafa. The balance of the squad is almost perfect and you have variations and different players that can adapt to any game.
 
Adams is not a manager. He's an advisor for the club, they asked him to be the manager for the season finale since they were getting relegated anyways, and they were already paying him.

He'll step down as manager and resume his place as advisor next season
 
While I can understand selling one of Isco/James I do think it would be a mistake to sell Morata if were not getting another striker, someone who can either finish chances or be a target man that stays in a central position. So I would prefer Morata to stay even if I also rate James, but if both end up leaving then we definitely need to get hazard lol
 
That's probably true but to be fair Im guessing the subs feel like they have something to prove while the "main team" isnt really that fresh and they had to save energy for the CL if they played

The "B" team is a better team, they work harder and have a lot of chemistry, the starting 11 just edge them in individual performance.


Problem with the subs if you gave them the chance against Atletico in SF for example, it seems like a team that would suffer if they can't force their rythm to the game, that takes a lot of fine tuning, with the BBC Kroos/Modric/Casemiro you probably won't get brilliant displays like today, but they don't need to do good to win against any team in the world.

Probably in the mix of those 2 variations we could find a Real Madrid that not only could win while destroying, but I understand not trying to overcomplicate things, if you can win with the basic then just keep winning
 
While I can understand selling one of Isco/James I do think it would be a mistake to sell Morata if were not getting another striker, someone who can either finish chances or be a target man that stays in a central position. So I would prefer Morata to stay even if I also rate James, but if both end up leaving then we definitely need to get hazard lol
James, Morata and Benz out - Mbappé, Lewandowski and Hazard in. :drool: :wenger:
 
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