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Why is the brother being prosecuted?
Why is the brother being prosecuted?
Some are even suggesting he should go to prison! I wouldn't support that even if it was a human let alone a cat. They can take away the pets tell him he can't have any and that's that.
Why is the brother being prosecuted?
Because he has a much lower market value than his brother. Even tough Kurt's actions are worse both clubs evaluated the bad PR they will get vs the money they will lose and came to different conclusions what they should do about it. SimpleHe was the guy filming it, I believe.
What’s the crime there though? Am I missing something obvious?He was the guy filming it, I believe.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/45/section/4What’s the crime there though? Am I missing something obvious?
Unnecessary suffering
(1)A person commits an offence if—
(a)an act of his, or a failure of his to act, causes an animal to suffer,
(b)he knew, or ought reasonably to have known, that the act, or failure to act, would have that effect or be likely to do so,
(c)the animal is a protected animal, and
(d)the suffering is unnecessary.
(2)A person commits an offence if—
(a)he is responsible for an animal,
(b)an act, or failure to act, of another person causes the animal to suffer,
(c)he permitted that to happen or failed to take such steps (whether by way of supervising the other person or otherwise) as were reasonable in all the circumstances to prevent that happening, and
(d)the suffering is unnecessary.
Settle down Kurt. You'll have your day in court.Laughable for anyone to suggest he should go to jail for this. I thought this shit was over by the way, i guess not.
Thanks.https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/45/section/4
Quite clear. He could have stopped it from happening but instead he watched and filmed.
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/45/section/4
Quite clear. He could have stopped it from happening but instead he watched and filmed.
Is this an echo chamber where everyone is supposed to have the same opinion?Settle down Kurt. You'll have your day in court.
Put him in a cage with a massive cat and throw away the key.
Yes.Is this an echo chamber where everyone is supposed to have the same opinion?
My badYes.
Yeah, it is just a cat. Why bother with that, eh? Your comment is perfect example why sick people like Zouma abuse animals and think it is funny. Because nearly nobody cares.Laughable for anyone to suggest he should go to jail for this. I thought this shit was over by the way, i guess not.
Yes.Is this an echo chamber where everyone is supposed to have the same opinion?
Turn him into a cat, use it as a football for a while, then turn him back.Put him in a cage with 24 normal sized, smelly, angry cats and throw away the key.
Good thing I never said he didn't deserve any type of punishment right? Get out of your feelings. And by the way, i don't think animals lives are worth as much as that of humans in general, but that doesn't mean I condone Zouma's actions. But the type of sanctions some of you are asking for is straight up ridiculous compared to what he did.Yeah, it is just a cat. Why bother with that, eh? Your comment is perfect example why sick people like Zouma abuse animals and think it is funny. Because nearly nobody cares.
Good thing we don't all live in your type of world.Yes.
Exactly, and ultimately nothing will change unless meaningful action is taken against people who do it. And just taking the cat away and a fine is going to do absolute bugger all.Yeah, it is just a cat. Why bother with that, eh? Your comment is perfect example why sick people like Zouma abuse animals and think it is funny. Because nearly nobody cares.
Considering what he did, 99% will have the same e opinion..Is this an echo chamber where everyone is supposed to have the same opinion?
"I thought this shit was over by the way, i guess not"Good thing I never said he didn't deserve any type of punishment right? Get out of your feelings. And by the way, i don't think animals lives are worth as much as that of humans in general, but that doesn't mean I condone Zouma's actions. But the type of sanctions some of you are asking for is straight up ridiculous compared to what he did.
Good thing we don't all live in your type of world.
The right sort of sentence for this would be a looong period of unpaid work. Ideally with animals but that would obviously have to be closely supervised.
In the end he'll just get a token fine. I don't even think it'll count as a criminal record. Although obviously it should and he'd deserve that label.
And rightfully so for what it was, also other more important issues occurred i guess."I thought this shit was over by the way, i guess not"
That sentence tells all about your opinion about it. It was on headlines barely one week and it is already too much for you.
Yeah, every normal person think it is not ok to abuse animals but "it is just minor cat kicking" at the end for most people.
With all due respect and i'm going to tread very carefully here so i don't get a warning, you're having a mare here.And rightfully so for what it was, also other more important issues occurred i guess.
Like i said earlier, this place isn't an echo chamber. So if some of you are too sensitive to different opinions other than yours, that's your problem.With all due respect and i'm going to tread very carefully here so i don't get a warning, you're having a mare here.
Exactly.Fine him and move on. He's already known as an animal abuser
To be honest i don't really care what your opinion on animal rights are or weather he deserves jail time. But having a measly fine and having his cat taken away ain't gonna do jack and he's not going to care one iota about being labelled an animal abuser as long as he keeps playing and earning a ton of money. Look at John Terry, he was condemned as a racist and got a ban but got no heavy punishment and still carried on to have a fantastic career and hasn't kept him from getting work after football. Same thing will happen here, he'll keep earning his heft wage at West Ham and will keep playing and at some point people won't care enough to give him any stick.Like i said earlier, this place isn't an echo chamber. So if some of you are too sensitive to different opinions other than yours, that's your problem.
Exactly.
With all due respect and i'm going to tread very carefully here so i don't get a warning, you're having a mare here.
Fine him and move on. He's already known as an animal abuser
Sure 10k seems fine, but I'm not pocket-watching a random athlete so I don't care the amount. And yes prison would be too much to ask. The cat didn't die.Fine him what, 10k? Yeah, I'm sure shelling out what he earns in a day will teach him a valuable lesson. Would prison time be too much to ask?
So when someone commits a crime and are punished (whether you agree with the punishment or not), they shouldn't be allowed to work and continue making a leaving (or earning plenty of money) after complying to the punishment that was given? Yeah that's nonsense and it's not for you and i to decide based on personal feelings, you're free to not support them on a personal level of you wish to.To be honest i don't really care what your opinion on animal rights are or weather he deserves jail time. But having a measly fine and having his cat taken away ain't gonna do jack and he's not going to care one iota about being labelled an animal abuser as long as he keeps playing and earning a ton of money. Look at John Terry, he was condemned as a racist and got a ban but got no heavy punishment and still carried on to have a fantastic career and hasn't kept him from getting work after football. Same thing will happen here, he'll keep earning his heft wage at West Ham and will keep playing and at some point people won't care enough to give him any stick.
Maybe they're from a culture that eat cats and see nothing wrong with it . But i'm gonna stop responding to them because they make my blood boil, i've unfortunately met too many people who completely disregard animals as nothing more than to do with whatever we want with.Some people simply don't understand how close we can get to our pets. To them, drop-kicking a cat around your kitchen is the equivalent of swatting an annoying fly hell-bent on pooping on your dinner.
Laughable for anyone to suggest he should go to jail for this. I thought this shit was over by the way, i guess not.
What if for example they found out the cat had broken bones or damage to organs because of the violence? You don't think that would be worthy of prison time? Just a fine and some community service?
Also bare in mind killers and rapists usually start on smaller crimes. Murderers actually do start harming animals first before they progress. The Sarah Everard murderer/rapist started with flashing
Thats not exactly a good thing though based off one or two of their employees being a idiot.And that is it. All forgotten. I must say that i am very disappointed how this thing ended.
Month ago in Dubrovnik (some of you know it as King's landing ) one popular museum kicked out old cat who was sleeping in front of museum. Their reputation among people and tourists is shattered now. Their reviews went from 5 stars to 2 stars and people still spamming them with negative reviews every day. They even ended in news around a world because people didn't want to let it go.
It was headmaster of museum who made a call.Thats not exactly a good thing though based off one or two of their employees being a idiot.
Do not like that type of mob mentality and people make mistakes.