Said it before, Koulibaly and Alderweireld would be a pretty tasty 1st choice CB pairing with Lindelof and Bailly 2nd string,sell the others!
Kostas Manolas
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The Greek Phil Jones. Not excited about this at all, hoping it's just a briefing in the press to scare Napoli into accepting.
I don't claim to be an expert on Manolas, but I just can't get excited about a defender for a team that conceded 7 goals to Liverpool in the Champions League. I only vaguely remember watching the two games, but I don't recall Manolas covering himself in glory.
Allison conceded those 7 goals as a keeper and has done very well for Liverpool.
Until a couple of blips around Xmas, he has probably been the best performing keeper in the league
Edit- just checked the teamsheets and see that Manolos started alongside Fazio in both games. I would not fancy him as my defensive partner against a direct and fast Liverpool team, particularly if playing a higher line
Yes one of many ex premier league players who go on to do better in Serie A
Don't think we will bring in anyone in this window now. Keeping it all for summer.
2nd time on Sportwitness in 2 days:
http://sportwitness.co.uk/club-already-looking-replacement-man-united-expected-pay-fee-get-player/
http://sportwitness.co.uk/club-already-looking-replacement-man-united-expected-pay-fee-get-player/
average
I mean if he came he might be the 2nd or 3rd best CB at the club, so he isn't a player I see improving us.
3rd or 4th based on this season
This worries me that we are going for a really cheap option who will make sod all difference.
For 36 million euros it's a no-brainer. Even if we don't use him every match as a first XI player we will be better off replacing Rojo/Jones with Manolas.
Well if you believe everything you read you must be impressed by some of the names we've also been linked with.
This transfer ain't happening.
Juve signing more likely than us.
Pretty sure Jones would be burned alive by our fans if we lost 7-1 with him playing CB
Here's a vid. He's the number 44 messing up on the first goal etc
No thanks, Fifa is not real life.
Hope you are right. We need lifting to the next level, so really need someone from a team that is at the next level already. Napoli and Spurs are, Real for all their hiccups are. Roma are not, they are disappointing. Probably sign Harry Maguire for gazillions now.
Manolas isn't the answer for us but I'd take Pellegrini from them.
Let's not forget Salah and Allison came from Roma too. It's about the player not the club.
Losing 7-1 is never the fault of just one player. And it's not exactly like Jones has never done something stupid.
If we can sell Rojo for 5-10 million then Manolas is a nice addition to have for 26 - 31 million euros.
Think Roma have got worse to be honest since those two left. We shall see what the club come up with.
Of course its not just his fault, although there were a couple he might have done better on himself.
But Jones often gets blamed for things that arent really his fault. Point is he's played better this season than Manolas has and some of the things Manolas has done this season, if he did them at United he wouldnt be rated
Pretty sure Jones would be burned alive by our fans if we lost 7-1 with him playing CB
Here's a vid. He's the number 44 messing up on the first goal etc
Roma love a good 7-1 hammering.
Thats true, and on that basis, Manolas isnt good enough. He is already 5 years there and thats his level. Allisson and Salah showed good consistent performances at Roma and earned their moves. Salah's rise at Liverpool was unexpected, but Allisson wasnt a surprise. Buying Manolas and him improving us would be like hoping Phil Jones stay injury free for a season. It is possible, but unlikely. Not convinced he would improve our first eleven.
Impossible to compare him to top CBs of the late years like Godin, Thiago Silva or even others like his co-patriot, Sokratis. As for these two Greeks I have watched them since they were teens. Sokratis is by far the better dribbler and passer, the better overall footballer while Manolas is the better athlete, more passionate but also a typical ball-watcher who can be confused and destroy the offside trap. Positioning and space awareness are not his strengths. Man marking, strong tackling and heading are his best attributes.
We should never look to buy a player like him again, especially if we are to play possession football.
We should never look to buy a player like him again, especially if we are to play possession football.
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I actuall think he'd do well in the prem, he's better than Sokratis anyway.
Worrying.
Agree with the general feeling here, bang average, we have signed far too many of those in defence for years, no thanks
Greek Phil Jones. No thanks.
He's got United player written all over him,unfortunately.
Isn't manolas a Right footed RCB? Do we really need another one if the case?
Has European experience, leadership, of a good age, decent in the air, great price
but sadly just not good enough for where we wanna be.
The time has come to cough up the money for Koulibaly/Skriniar/Varane/Romagnoli/de Ligt/Maguire
but sadly just not good enough for where we wanna be.
The time has come to cough up the money for Koulibaly/Skriniar/Varane/Romagnoli/de Ligt/Maguire
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Didn't he just sign a new contract?
Exactly what I was thinking, we might as well just get Alderweireld if our main aim is to go cheap on a CB.
We have no business buying any player that doesn't improve our first team.
fecking hell, no, no, no.
Roma fans seem to really rate him (along with Under and Zaniolo and nobody else, they're a mess right now) and if we think of an older CB for that amount of money as a 3 year transfer, we would be getting him for his age 28-30 seasons, rather than 30.5-33.5 if we went with Alderweild, so there's a case for it.
He looks solid but not special when I've seen him, but we're not going to sign the absolute minimum 5 players (assuming Herrera is gone) we probably need (RW, CM1, CM2, RB, CB) while spending like 400M, I don't think.
We're not going to sign all of Sancho, Rodri, one of the young Lyon CMs, Wan-Bissaka and De Ligt, and probably none of those players save maybe Sancho and Wan-Bissaka would want to sign for us (maybe a Lyon CM too).
So, even best case scenario and we wrap up Sancho and Wan-Bissaka, that's probably around 150M and we're probably going to be looking in the 30-40M range more than the nailed on more expensive types, I would guess.
The question is if what question mark are we best off with. Manolas, Alderweild with his age, Umtiti with his injuries, Maguire with his lapses in form and concentration...
A better run club would be able to suss out which of the youngsters like Tah, Elvedi, Konate, N'Dicka, Stark or Upamecano from the Bundesliga is worth spending 40M on, but I don't see us having that sort of intelligence.
He looks solid but not special when I've seen him, but we're not going to sign the absolute minimum 5 players (assuming Herrera is gone) we probably need (RW, CM1, CM2, RB, CB) while spending like 400M, I don't think.
We're not going to sign all of Sancho, Rodri, one of the young Lyon CMs, Wan-Bissaka and De Ligt, and probably none of those players save maybe Sancho and Wan-Bissaka would want to sign for us (maybe a Lyon CM too).
So, even best case scenario and we wrap up Sancho and Wan-Bissaka, that's probably around 150M and we're probably going to be looking in the 30-40M range more than the nailed on more expensive types, I would guess.
The question is if what question mark are we best off with. Manolas, Alderweild with his age, Umtiti with his injuries, Maguire with his lapses in form and concentration...
A better run club would be able to suss out which of the youngsters like Tah, Elvedi, Konate, N'Dicka, Stark or Upamecano from the Bundesliga is worth spending 40M on, but I don't see us having that sort of intelligence.
One of these is not like the others...
Yes. Its Romagnoli
That makes no sense at all.
If you want to compete for trophies then you need depth in your squad. Look at city’s bench then look at ours.