Kluivert to ManUtd.....

V. Nistelrooij

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..that's a dream that I would like to come true! Saw him play against Austria last night! Pure, pure class! He is comparible to Bergkamp in his best days! One of the best pieces of sheer technical brilliance I have seen in a long time! It was what he did just before he back heeled the ball to Seedorf, when he flicked the ball up but in doing so prevented it from continuing it's momentum away from him. Pure technical brilliance. It's a dream to see him partner Ruud!!!
 
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Is this one of your aliases Dans? ;)
 
No I'm not Dans, but when I saw his peace of writing, I thought, why wright the same story only in other words? No, just past and copy!!!! Just a little ad-on from myself! My English is just not all-that compared to you guys! That's probably why I don't live in England! ;)
 
I have better things to pretend to be than a clogg called Erik Hartman.
 
Originally posted by V. Nistelrooij:
<strong>No I'm not Dans, but when I saw his peace of writing, I thought, why wright the same story only in other words? No, just past and copy!!!! Just a little ad-on from myself! My English is just not all-that compared to you guys! That's probably why I don't live in England! ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

I think you should have at least credited me with the original piece though. You know, like some sort of acknowledgement that you had borrowed from the writings of a great ;)
 
Sorry Dans, <img src="graemlins/smirk.gif" border="0" alt="[Smirk]" /> It was indeed a great peace of writing!
 
Against kluivert

Hes a moaner who had snubbed united for ages
btw hes not consistant

Pro kluivert

Hes a wonderful striker, at the perfect age and will slot perfectly near Van Nistelrooy

Conclusion

I would bring him. Hes at his best years and his price is reasonable. Snubbing United? loyalty is nowaday peanuts look at blanc, he snubbed us four times and he is still playing his pension years at OT
 
It would be the worst day in my United supporting life.

I can't stand Patrick Kluivert.

I want to see players here who have some respect for the club.
 
What's up with you people who support partnering Kluivert with Ruud??

Doesn't any of you realize how both of them failed to help Holland qualify for the World Cup?

The potential is there definitely, but it never worked out. Ruud likes to play alone up front and so does Kluivert...

come on people... read the game with your brains... don't just use your hearts...
 
Hollands failure to qualify came because of a certian arrogant one year wonder coach called Van Gaal.

I agree with you that Kluivert is a person who have snubbed United, but we have passed through Blanc and we will pass through this too.

btw Ruud and KLUIVERT have loads of respect of each other and I would relish to see two friends playing up front ( remember Yorke- Cole golden era??)

three positive things about kluivert

- He has still 26 yrs
- His buy will surely be a bargain
- Ruud , Hassenbaink and Berkamp have showed us that the dutch strikers would suit perfectly in the Premiership

I prefer Kluivert over any south american stiker.
Experience have thought us this
 
Originally posted by Livvie20:
<strong>It would be the worst day in my United supporting life.

I can't stand Patrick Kluivert.

I want to see players here who have some respect for the club.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Spot on ,my feelings exactly
 
Originally posted by devilish:
<strong>Hollands failure to qualify came because of a certian arrogant one year wonder coach called Van Gaal.

I agree with you that Kluivert is a person who have snubbed United, but we have passed through Blanc and we will pass through this too.

btw Ruud and KLUIVERT have loads of respect of each other and I would relish to see two friends playing up front ( remember Yorke- Cole golden era??)

three positive things about kluivert

- He has still 26 yrs
- His buy will surely be a bargain
- Ruud , Hassenbaink and Berkamp have showed us that the dutch strikers would suit perfectly in the Premiership

I prefer Kluivert over any south american stiker.
Experience have thought us this</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm dutch and obviously follow matches of Holland. Feelings in Holland (media and crowd) are that the partnership ain't working so far. Ruud and Kluivert still have not impressed for Holland this year. They have so far not played one match in which the partnership worked well. That may be due to Ruud's loss of form atm, but so far there's nawt proof that they're going to be great together.
 
I still find it amazing that Kluivert doesn't fit into Van Gaals plans. He's a player who i've admired for years, and i can't believe he's only 26.
He's a natural goal scorer, he does moan but he's certainly not in the class of Piggybank in those stakes. Don't know whether Ruud and Kluivert can work together but i'd like to have the chance of seeing them find out.
 
Of course. So would I. I'd love to get Kluivert and get rid of Ruud....a player who clearly isn't United quality. <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
 
Originally posted by laura:
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I didn`t say that.I just find Kluivert better.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Better in what sense ? I doubt he could score 36 goals in his first year with us as Ruud did. I also doubt that he could be loyal to United (as Ruud is). He clearly doesn't have the positive charisma of RVN.
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
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Better in what sense ? I doubt he could score 36 goals in his first year with us as Ruud did. I also doubt that he could be loyal to United (as Ruud is). He clearly doesn't have the positive charisma of RVN.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I think Kluivert is technically more skillful.His class as a player is higher imho.
 
Originally posted by laura:
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I think Kluivert is technically more skillful.His class as a player is higher imho.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Technically more skillful is debatable. Define class as a player though - RVN is one of the classiest players we have.
 
Originally posted by laura:
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It`s just my opinion.I`d like Kluivert to sign for us.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Very well. So how is Kluivert classier than RVN in your opinion ?
 
Originally posted by laura:
<strong>I would even swap Kluivert for Ruud.He`s perfect.</strong><hr></blockquote>

no chance!


i wouldn't swap RVN for ANY striker in the world.... not only is he world class...but he's also a player that gives 110% EVERY match... Ruuds United through and through.. and you can't replace that.

priceless.
 
Originally posted by laura:
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And how is RVN?</strong><hr></blockquote>

He has a better and more loyal attitude to his club imo. I've always seen Kluivert as a talented primadona who has yet to successfully harness his emotions when confronted with adversity. RVN has confronted and overcome adversity in that he dealt with a severe injury, surgery, and recovery period - and managed to do no less than score 36 goals while playing in one of the top leagues in the world the following season. That is class. That is irreplacable imo.
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
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RVN has confronted and overcome adversity in that he dealt with a severe injury, surgery, and recovery period - and managed to do no less than score 36 goals while playing in one of the top leagues in the world the following season.</strong><hr></blockquote>

And he deserves credits for that
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
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He has a better and more loyal attitude to his club imo. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Ya know I don`t think a loyal attitude to your club proves your class as a player.It`s a matter of your personality.
Ronaldo wasn`t loyal to Inter I wonder if u would cast doubts on his high class?
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>Of course. So would I. I'd love to get Kluivert and get rid of Ruud....a player who clearly isn't United quality. <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

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Originally posted by laura:
<strong>Ronaldo wasn`t loyal to Inter I wonder if u would cast doubts on his high class?</strong><hr></blockquote>

To be fair to Ronaldo if either one of the two stories about why he left were true i.e. Seedorf was banging his bit or he coulsn't get on with Cuper, then I wouldn't have a problem with his "loyalty". Why shouldn't he move in such a situation regardless of the club sticking by him during the injury - I mean the club couldn't actually not stick by him could they?
 
Originally posted by giggzy:
<strong>bottomline: both top class players....

but i know which one i'd prefer in my team. :cool: </strong><hr></blockquote>

Yes. The one who has lovely brown eyes and a United heart. As opposed to the one with the Dutch equivalent of Pound signs in his eyes.

I'd rather play with eleven players who support the team, than eleven Kluiverts. Even if the 11 Kluiverts were capable of beating the world.
 
i'd like to see PK in red but not at the expense of ruud - who chases and runs hard for 90 mins. that's the biggest differance between them. also ruud is better in the box PK is better w/ the ball in space like TH.
 
Originally posted by laura:
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Ya know I don`t think a loyal attitude to your club proves your class as a player.It`s a matter of your personality.
Ronaldo wasn`t loyal to Inter I wonder if u would cast doubts on his high class?</strong><hr></blockquote>

You're also forgetting that Inter like all Italian clubs are struggling financially and they were offered £30million for a player that had started less than 20 games in 3 years. Ronaldo may well have be unsettled at Inter but Inter also need the cash.
 
i think that Kluivert should join 4 us and he can have his money he wants and have a teammate that is dutch.

noo??? <img src="graemlins/houllier.gif" border="0" alt="[Houllier]" />
 
A few weeks back I suggested we should maybe think about putting a bid in for Hasselbaink, and I was widely criticised, not because he was not good enough but that he was tempermental, lazy etc. Well if that arguement is used against Hasselbaink, then it must work the same for Kluverit only ten fold.

Kluverit is on his day quality, but all to often his day doesn't come. He basically is not consistent enough.

I think we need a front player with devasting speed, as we seem to be lacking in that dept. The guys we have and also Kluverit have pace but not in the same way as Cole had. If you take our main rivals, Arsenal have Henry's pace and the scousers have Owen's pace.
 
Originally posted by Canadian Dee:
<strong>A few weeks back I suggested we should maybe think about putting a bid in for Hasselbaink, and I was widely criticised, not because he was not good enough but that he was tempermental, lazy etc.
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Personally, I wouldn't want a player who was regarded as the greatest the world had ever seen, if he didn't have the right attitude. I don't mean that he should be without character, or have a perfect temperament.

But he should be a United player at heart.