Klopp Confirmed Liverpool Manager

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Im saying that he doesn't want to go to a team like Bayern or Barca cuz if he fails he loses all credit. If he fails with Liverpool everyone will be like "yeah its the team".
:lol: That's a really funny post unless you know something we don't. Which top clubs actually offered him a job which he refused to take? I apparently missed all of them. Or do you expect him to sit and wait for such offers that may never come? There's too much competition in his profession to snub too many offers. Your assumptions about Klopp's reasoning for joining Liverpool are off the mark.
As mentioned by @carvajal : His reputation will decline if he fails to improve Liverpool. No professional in the football world will attribute this to LFC being a hopeless case.
 
Are people seriously going to act like they did when Falcao joined chelsea? Klopp consciously joined the deluded club. They are the enemy. As long as he is their manager I'll not wish him well.
Many had wanted him as our manager. The chance of that just became almost absolutely not possible. So move on to the next hipster dream manager.
 
After this season, Pep might go, José might go, Wenger might go (bit more doubtful), FSW might get the sack, LVG might go... I just think it's crazy that he's taking the Liverpool job when looking at their squad. It shouldn't be possible to achieve much without some great signings. And even so, the PL has become so tough with us spending loads, Arsenal not shying away from spending and Chelsea and Man City, well I don't need to tell you about their financial capabilities? But hey, I guess everyone loves a challenge? Especially everyones favourite hipster Klopp!
I count not less than 5 mights in your post. Do you expect Klopp to wait for such a potential opportunity which may never materialize because those managers will either stay in power or he's not the preferred chosen one to fill this vacancy?
In his whole career, Klopp has never been driven by money, and he's critical of oil money clubs. If you have had a poll in Germany at which club people would have expected Klopp to end up, Bayern (which to me is not happening as long as Matthias Sammer is in place there) and Liverpool would have led the list by a big margin.
 
I count not less than 5 mights in your post. Do you expect Klopp to wait for such a potential opportunity which may never materialize because those managers will either stay in power or he's not the preferred chosen one to fill this vacancy?
In his whole career, Klopp has never been driven by money, and he's critical of oil money clubs. If you have had a poll in Germany at which club people would have expected Klopp to end up, Bayern (which to me is not happening as long as Matthias Sammer is in place there) and Liverpool would have led the list by a big margin.
Sammer doesn´t like Klopp ?
 
He's probably going to sign a pre-contract with Gundogan this January and look for Reus if they qualify for the CL. Not sure if there's anyone else from his time at Dortmund worth exploring further, I don't think Hummels would go there.
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Sammer doesn´t like Klopp ?
That's something I can just guess and would not be surprised of. More importantly is that Klopp doesn't like Sammer. As long as he's an important figure at Bayern and not just a representative figure like Beckenbauer or Breitner, I just can't see Klopp in Munich.
 
If you ask me, it was the media, who started to question him. More and more, week after week. And it was a long stretch. They were 17th or 18th at Christmas. That wore him down. Even my dad said, a change would be better for both. But Dortmund sticked with him -- a smart and loyal move. After the winter break it suddenly worked again, almost as normal. They were the second best team in the second half of the season and moved up to the 7th spot.

But the frictions have been there. Klopp started to wonder what he did wrong. And indeed a couple of expensive signings seemed to not work. Immobile was a failure. He's now in Spain and I doubt he's a success over there. But Mkhitaryan was one of the really strange ones: He played wonderfully even in his first year, but he couldn't score to save his life. Now that Klopp is gone, he's scoring, from the same spots...

Anyway, Klopp wanted to leave because he was disappointed. But probably not so much because of the club or the fans, they never let him down. My guess is that he was disappointed by the media and by himself -- in the sense that he couldn't solve the problem earlier. A problem that noboby can solve IMO: Bad luck over a period of time.
If that is indeed his reason, then he will not have an easy ride here with the media. Also, it almost shows a lack of belief that he gave up after half a bad season. Surely there must be more to it. You don't leave just because the team under-performed for 4-5 months.
 
Pffft. Overrated manager. Never liked his style either. Thank feck he went to Pool, glad that rules him out from managing us.

Bullet. Dodged.
 
As for him, does Liverpools squad match his type of play?

I think he can do pretty well with their squad. Benteke is the type of striker he prefers; the lack of good wingers won't bother him too much, he can do well with their attacking midfielders. Their CM has lots of runners which will be fine for his purposes, even though they lack quality on the ball.
I haven't watched too many Liverpool games to have a solid opinion other than on players I know from the Bundesliga (Can, Firmino) or Benteke. I'm sure Klopp will be able to work with the former two (unless Can has an attitude problem), and I think he'll be very happy with Benteke because he was among those strikers he wanted to have as Lewandowski's successor but couldn't afford.
 
Strange thing that you allow the current manager make such investments and then sack him few months later. Why didn't they move for Klopp already in the summer? Now Klopp is stuck with Rodgers' signings.

Great character, Klopp. Nevertheless, I wish he'll fail and flop. Simply because it's Liverpool.
 
Strange thing that you allow the current manager make such investments and then sack him few months later. Why didn't they move for Klopp already in the summer? Now Klopp is stuck with Rodgers' signings.

Great character, Klopp. Nevertheless, I wish he'll fail and flop. Simply because it's Liverpool.
The Transfer Committee's signings
 
If Klopp can make Pool a top 4 team, so be it. We anyways need to face all competitions if we want to be the best in the country.
Bring it on Klopp of the Kop.
 
But that is the same thing which saw Klopp's last season with BVB getting ripped apart at the back consistently and finishing well below the CL places.
That's not the full story. First of all, Vollgasfußball has worked for a couple of years and still did in some Bundesliga, Champions League and DFB cup matches last season. Secondly, we may have a different definition of what getting ripped apart constitutes of. We've never conceded fewer shots against us as during last season, and in the majority of cases they were from average or poor positions and situations. Abbout 50% of the actually game-deciding goals against us last season resulted from massive individual failures. Think Hummels, Weidenfeller, Ramos etc. These were amateur-ish like errors (coupled with the poorest conversion rate Dortmund had for a very long time but that's another story). We committed more such errors leading to goal in the first 10-12 matches than in the two previous seasons taken together.
 
The part which I had initially highlighted stated that you can take us not doing well but that and Liverpool doing well is not something you can accept.

So unless I got it wrong, does that not mean that Liverpool will do better than us is what you are expecting.
No, that isnt what I am saying.Liverpool have been a mid-table side for the better part of this decade, with this, they might become regularly champions league challenger at least. Rawk meltdowns and all that, the beauty of that stems from Liverpool's averageness. The fact that they could attract such a world class manager doesnt sit well with me.

And as some poster stupidly put it, I do not have Klopp posters or am I his biggest fan. But I acknowledge that he has been one of the better managers and would be a coup for any club, even Liverpool. I still hope he fails, but I wouldnt be suprised if he didnt. Thats all I was saying.
 
Six months and he leaves for another job. Can't hack it in England. Unrealistic expectations of the local support has sent him bonkers. Is a renowned quitter when the going gets tough from what I understand.

But we don't know really do we? <--- be a shorter less annoying thread though, fücking Liverpool.
 
The next Rafa
Goes into the club as some sort of fabled master tactitian.
Will leave as the biggest laughing stock in football.

That club changes people
 
@Crossie

We're on page 53 of a huge LFC love-in and the 'orrible contemplation of their inevitable rise to global supremacy.

One has to clutch whatever straws of hope one can find. :)
 
Its the same reason why Messi will never ever move out of Barcelona. If he fails in England the entire world will praise Ronaldo.

If Klopp fails at Bayern after years and years of succes. Hes done. If he fails at Liverpool, who cares, everyone fails there. If he succeeds at Liverpool hes a god.

Its win/win for both image and challenge. If you dont see any logic in that then i feel bad for you.

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That's not the full story. First of all, Vollgasfußball has worked for a couple of years and still did in some Bundesliga, Champions League and DFB cup matches last season. Secondly, we may have a different definition of what getting ripped apart constitutes of. We've never conceded fewer shots against us as during last season, and in the majority of cases they were from average or poor positions and situations. Abbout 50% of the actually game-deciding goals against us last season resulted from massive individual failures. Think Hummels, Weidenfeller, Ramos etc. These were amateur-ish like errors (coupled with the poorest conversion rate Dortmund had for a very long time but that's another story). We committed more such errors leading to goal in the first 10-12 matches than in the two previous seasons taken together.

Individual mistakes often have to do with a not functioning system or team, too. And - the bad chance conversion at Dortmund had a lot to do with a high percentage of shots from outside the box, too. Or, with having to less creativity to work out good chances in the box. In the season before the problem already existed but then the team still had a lot goals from set-pieces.

In the first years Dortmund still had a physical advantage as they were putting a lot of more effort, speed and mileage into their matches than the opponents but in the three, four years since then about all teams in the league raised that level and whereas Pressing-is-the-best-playmaker works great against teams that play openly it does not against teams that sit back with good organisation or that have similar ideas of football.

It will be interesting with what tactics Klopp will work now and how he can adapt to another league. His particular strength is the ability to get the media and fans behind him and to be a great motivator. That atleast will help in the beginning.
 
Its the same reason why Messi will never ever move out of Barcelona. If he fails in England the entire world will praise Ronaldo.

If Klopp fails at Bayern after years and years of succes. Hes done. If he fails at Liverpool, who cares, everyone fails there. If he succeeds at Liverpool hes a god.

Its win/win for both image and challenge. If you dont see any logic in that then i feel bad for you.

People at the top rarely think like losers.

Why did Ronaldo move to Real going by your logic? Stay at United, be the best player in the league, keep piling on the trophies. He left it at all to move to Messi's league and direct rivals putting everything at risk.

Had klopp moved to Bayern, you'd be blaming him for taking the easy way out and not taking on a challenge. Wasn't that thrown at Guardiola by a lot of people?
 
He can still go either way mate :angel:
And I still stand by what I said in that thread: massivly, massivly overpaid.
Not that you don't have the money or he might be worth it, that's a different story.

Of course, I'm just loving the excitement he's providing, for now :drool:
 
I have decided that I'm not going to start hating him because he joined Liverpool. He's still a good character to have in the game and although I don't wish Liverpool success, I'm not going to hold any grudges against one of my favourite managers.
 
Great coup for them, as much as it pains me to say it. The only positive to take is that their fan's expectation levels will be restored, so that if it all goes wrong, the meltdowns will be all the more entertaining.
 
It's like the time Marlene Dietrich joined the Nazi party. Such a shame.

Said it before, but no - For your lot this is like fancying that Heidi Klum lookalike down the street for years, but instead you played it safe with some old slapper who you figured can teach you a trick or two.

Then your heart ties itself into knots as you realise you could have gone for her if you dared when you see her with that Michael j fox lookalike you used to "spar" with in school.

Then you look in the mirror and realise you are Biff Tannen and too old to change. You wasted your life.
 
Said it before, but no - For your lot this is like fancying that Heidi Klum lookalike down the street for years, but instead you played it safe with some old slapper who you figured can teach you a trick or two.

Then your heart ties itself into knots as you realise you could have gone for her if you dared when you see her with that Michael j fox lookalike you used to "spar" with in school.

Then you look in the mirror and realise you are Biff Tannen and too old to change. You wasted your life.
These girlfriend analogies are getting ridiculous. I'm also not a Heidi Klum fan so...
 
Good manager. Tough job ahead of him. He'll improve them, but there are 4 clubs with excellent managers and a whole lot more money ahead of them, so he won't have it easy. Hope he fails miserably.
 
Said it before, but no - For your lot this is like fancying that Heidi Klum lookalike down the street for years, but instead you played it safe with some old slapper who you figured can teach you a trick or two.

Then your heart ties itself into knots as you realise you could have gone for her if you dared when you see her with that Michael j fox lookalike you used to "spar" with in school.

Then you look in the mirror and realise you are Biff Tannen and too old to change. You wasted your life.

A shit girlfriend analogy. Check.
A reference to something from the 1980s. Check.
A bitter swipe at Man United's dominance over Liverpool. Check.

I rate this post 10/10 for RAWKness.
 
Let`s be honest:

Players like Can, Henderson, Sturridge, Lovren, Clyne could be the kind of players perfectly suited to Klopp`s style. I guess he will also bring Firmino back to his best.

As far as I can judge Klopp he will have thought about this. He has been seeking for a challenge. Liverpool might be perfect for that as they have the potential and also the background, history and fanbase. However, they have been a bloody mess for a while now.
Going to United, Bayern or Chelsea and take over from LvG, Guardiola or Mourinho would have been something different.

It will be interesting to see how Klopp will handle the English press.
 
A shit girlfriend analogy. Check.
A reference to something from the 1980s. Check.
A bitter swipe at Man United's dominance over Liverpool. Check.

I rate this post 10/10 for RAWKness.
Ffs :lol:
 
Thats exactly what im saying. He will win at Bayern and Madrid and it will be expected. if he doesn't he will be a complete disaster. if he wins at liverpool hes a god. If he fails at liverpool, tough luck its liverpool nobody can manage it.

All im saying is hes not just doing it for the challenge. If anyone here believes other wise, you are truly delusional.
If he fails at Liverpool he will get slammed.
 
It's a shame. The days of liking Klopp are over. But they'll turn him in a bitter, deluded laughing stock. They turn everyone who goes there into a bitter, deluded laughing stock.
 
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