Benzema is somone who'd exite arsenal fans and arsenal could even be mugged to pay his price.
Karim Benzema
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Try selling to arsenal, they'd be exited
I think If Real manage to find buyers for Bale, Benzema and James Rod they need to move them on. Bale has been great for them but he's too injury prone and the youngsters coming through (Asencio, Vasquez) along with Isco seem very ready to make the grade. Maybe they can get 70-80m for all 3 combined?
Just move Ronaldo centrally (that's where he is 90% of the time anyway) with Morata as sub, bring a big shiny Perez-type transfer (Hazard, Dybala) to play on one wing and play Isco or Asencio on the other. Jobs a good'un. Use the massive salaries you have saved to bring in a long-term Modric replacement maybe? Or get DDG and leave Modric for a couple more years.
Just move Ronaldo centrally (that's where he is 90% of the time anyway) with Morata as sub, bring a big shiny Perez-type transfer (Hazard, Dybala) to play on one wing and play Isco or Asencio on the other. Jobs a good'un. Use the massive salaries you have saved to bring in a long-term Modric replacement maybe? Or get DDG and leave Modric for a couple more years.
Bale would still cost £80m+ on his own let alone the other two. And Madrid aren't selling Bale anyway.
Benzema has been a bit shit but he's the right type of striker to play next to CR7. You can either move Cristiano to the middle, buy an upgrade on Benzema or hope he gets better next season. I think you'll go with the latter and buy either Mbappe or Hazard and then work it out depending on how he performs.
Bale is the interesting one. Isco simply fits the team a lot better, even Asensio does imo. And Bale is always injured anyway. The CL final is in Cardiff and it will be interesting to see if Zidane starts with him if he's fit by then
Bale is the interesting one. Isco simply fits the team a lot better, even Asensio does imo. And Bale is always injured anyway. The CL final is in Cardiff and it will be interesting to see if Zidane starts with him if he's fit by then
Does all the hard work up front, pretty underrated imo.
@MadMike Why make Ronaldo play central though and have two cbs on him all the time. Better to keep him wide forward where he's played and done damage all his career and still have a striker to support him and chip in.
I think it's the natural progression for him in a couple of years. He's already more of a second striker than an inside forward. Right now the set up for today was perfect for him but they need an upgrade on Benzema and that kind of player is not easy to find. That's why I think they won't sell Benzema and will just hope he can come back better next season. Morata has impressed whenever he's played but Zidane doesn't seem to see him as a starter. They have plenty of options, it's just a matter of working things out
If by all the hard work you mean fcuking up every chance he gets then yeah, he does all the hard work.
He's been shite, don't get me wrong, but whenever I've watched you guys play he's the one shielding the ball etc. up front. It allows Ronaldo to do his thing. Not exactly the required standard for Real Madrid though, of course.
I have a lot of affection for Karim. He is very madridista.Despite his problems off the field has always been very professional, has never raised his voice or protested in the past when he had to be a substitute or when Mourinho attacked him.
Benzema has always been lazy but when the criticism got worse he used to offer some good match.
This year he has not reacted to criticism, he looks slow and even a little clumsy. Leaving aside sympathies, I think he should be sold.
Benzema has always been lazy but when the criticism got worse he used to offer some good match.
This year he has not reacted to criticism, he looks slow and even a little clumsy. Leaving aside sympathies, I think he should be sold.
I just don't understand why we buy back Morata to not give him a chance, even when Benzema is being shit. I bet he wishes he stayed at Juve.
When Benzema came off he played up top with Vasquez on the right and Asencio on the left. Did you see him struggle against Godin and Savic? Look, what are Ronaldo's best attributes? For me they are lethal finishing, jumping/heading ability, shooting with both feet, strength and finally speed/acceleration.
Ronaldo, as he's getting older now, will start losing the latter part which is pace/acceleration. If he's keeps playing from the wing, the younger faster fullbacks will start getting the better of him and he'll keep drifting more and more centrally as he already does. He's other abilities though are unlikely to decline for a good few years more. With the amount of chances RM created, he'd shine as a striker I feel pretty sure about it.
Remind me never to go hunting with Jose.
I feel sorry for him. I still remember the presentation of Morata, how excited he was about his return to Madrid. He does not play for the stubbornness of Zidane, which in fact has not favored Benzema at all, has only put him in the spotlight.
Benzema is very frustrating as a player as he clearly is a very talented footballer but sometimes he plays like he doesn't care, however today I think he did much better compared to how he played against Barcelona; where he was just non-existant. So at times I would want to get rid of him and at times I think he's the perfect striker for us.
I'm sure it'd be a fun day but I'd definitely leave my cat at home in case Jose gets any crazy ideas.
For free? Any source? Too lazy to search. But if he's free we must get him. IMO still a top class striker at the moment.
He has been horrible for a majority of the season. Whats up with him? I hate to see him do bad....his all round play is incredible.
I'd take Benzema here. He's good at what Ibra does. If Jose wants a like for like replacement there aren't many around.
Also, judging him on today's performance but not judging Griezmann in the same match... slightly silly.
Also, judging him on today's performance but not judging Griezmann in the same match... slightly silly.
Only if you take Rooney and his full salary.
You've not watched Ronaldo this year at all have you?
He's been much, much better when he's gone central than out wide. He's simply gotten older so needs to be closer to goal.
I'll take it in the heartbeat.
But play him as CF...too long being Servant for CR7 has disrupt his instinct as the goal scorer....if he play with no mindset of serving the mighty CR7, perhaps we will see the different player.
Benzema has more fluidity in his movement, so poster who said he will be a downgrade to Ibra...No he won't...He also can played as cutting winger...he may not be super speed, but his dribbling is good...
If Arsenal buy him to replace Sanchez, that's the downgrade...for Arsenal...if they can keep Sanchez and swap Giroud to Benzema...that's the upgrade...Sanchez will no longer being an Arsenal Key Player who work like a horse every game...
But play him as CF...too long being Servant for CR7 has disrupt his instinct as the goal scorer....if he play with no mindset of serving the mighty CR7, perhaps we will see the different player.
Benzema has more fluidity in his movement, so poster who said he will be a downgrade to Ibra...No he won't...He also can played as cutting winger...he may not be super speed, but his dribbling is good...
If Arsenal buy him to replace Sanchez, that's the downgrade...for Arsenal...if they can keep Sanchez and swap Giroud to Benzema...that's the upgrade...Sanchez will no longer being an Arsenal Key Player who work like a horse every game...
Problem is he has been a servant to CR7 for the better part of his career. Asking him to shed his spots his wishful thinking. Even at Lyon he wasnt a prolific scorer.
His record is almost a goal every 2 games, that is prolific in my book.
That was while playing on the best team in Ligue 1?
Benzema's best season was 2007/08 when he was top scorer in Ligue1 with 20 goals. A look at the competition would put it in perspective
Karim Benzema 20
Mamadou Niang 18
Bafétimbi Gomis 16
Djibril Cissé 16
Fernando Cavenaghi 15
The following season 2008/09
André-Pierre Gignac 24
Karim Benzema 17
Guillaume Hoarau 17
Michel Bastos 14
Ireneusz Jeleń 14
Steve Savidan 13
None of those striker are what I would call prolific. In his last 2 seasons, Benzema scored just 37 goals in 72 league appearances.
For comparison, in his 4 seasons with PSG, Zlatan scored 30 goals in 34 games, 26 goals in 33 games, 19 goals in 34 games and 38 goals in 31. That is a total of 113 goals in 122 games. This season, Cavani has already scored 31 goals in 31 games.
A prolific striker in Ligue 1 should average close to 1 goal per game like Zlatan and Cavani. Benzema was not a prolific striker - never was and doubt he will ever be.
I was talking overall 360 career games with 178 goals scored.
A goal a game is beyond prolific and is why it is narrowed down to just two players.
Yes Lyon were the best team in Ligue 1 but they didn't have world class players in every position like PSG have. Also you're comparing a player in his every 20s to Zlatan and Cavani who were both 30+ when they start putting up those kind of numbers, if Benzema stays at Lyon he's probably gonna be hitting 25+ league goals from the age of 24-25 as the main man.
His record can be good but he's very frustrating to watch on regular basis.
That is purely speculation on your part with no evidence to support it.
In his entire career, there has been nothing to show Benzema would have been prolific in any of the top leagues. In 8 seasons at Madrid, his highest league tally is 25 goals, and he has scored 120 goals in 240 games (similar to his 50% ratio at lyon). This season, even Morata has outscored him while playing less minutes and coming off the bench.
Benzema has always been a 50% goal ratio striker at best, and it would be silly for anyone to expect him to start banging goals at a higher rate when he is in his 30s. If you want goals, you dont buy Benzema.
The season where I liked him the best was wit Mourinho when we had also Higuaín, he managed and rotated them well and were scoring quite often. Since then my major criticism to him is how inconsistent and lazy he can be knowing he has no true competition within the team; he always start the season poorly and slowly it kind of gets better towards the end and then he goes injured and something like that; he can be pretty frustrating in that regard.
So to get the best out of him I think he needs competition for his spot and a manager who doesn't let him relax, and become lazy, and take his starting role for granted.
So to get the best out of him I think he needs competition for his spot and a manager who doesn't let him relax, and become lazy, and take his starting role for granted.
I didn't watch Real a lot under Mourinho, but the best I have seen him play was under Ancelotti, when he provided the link between Bale and Ronaldo. He was the best playmaking no.9 in the world in that role imo, and it didn't matter that he wasn't the most clinical scorer.
Benitez started to play him as a more traditional striker (he actually scored quite a lot), and that development was continued by Zidane. Benz's contribution to Real's overall play declined more and more, as well as his goal return. The immense focus on wing play certainly played a big role in that. The questions about sharpness and fitness remain, too.
So in a way he seems kind of expendable as it is. But I think he's still deemed important as the favoured assistant of Ronaldo, who effectively plays as a second center forward, but doesn't like to play as a lone striker. So despite this not being the environment that brings the best out of him individually, I can imagine why he's still the no.1 choice for Zidane (Perez' protection aside).
To me it's an example of how it seems to be with Zidane: The team's proven functionality when it matters kind of justifies individual choices that might be debatable otherwise.
Benitez started to play him as a more traditional striker (he actually scored quite a lot), and that development was continued by Zidane. Benz's contribution to Real's overall play declined more and more, as well as his goal return. The immense focus on wing play certainly played a big role in that. The questions about sharpness and fitness remain, too.
So in a way he seems kind of expendable as it is. But I think he's still deemed important as the favoured assistant of Ronaldo, who effectively plays as a second center forward, but doesn't like to play as a lone striker. So despite this not being the environment that brings the best out of him individually, I can imagine why he's still the no.1 choice for Zidane (Perez' protection aside).
To me it's an example of how it seems to be with Zidane: The team's proven functionality when it matters kind of justifies individual choices that might be debatable otherwise.
He's misunderstood. His job for us is to provide the link between the midfield and attack, hold the ball up, and create space for Cristiano
He keeps playing for us because Cristiano is better playing next to him, and getting the best out of Cristiano is obviously the best way to win games. The only player who would be better for us, next to Cris, right now is Lewandowski who isn't attainable
That said, he's a very inconsistent player and incredibly frustrating to watch when he's off form. When he's on song though...
He keeps playing for us because Cristiano is better playing next to him, and getting the best out of Cristiano is obviously the best way to win games. The only player who would be better for us, next to Cris, right now is Lewandowski who isn't attainable
That said, he's a very inconsistent player and incredibly frustrating to watch when he's off form. When he's on song though...
Lewandowski is the opposite of Benzema and if the plan is to get the best out of Cristiano, he would be one of the worst to pair with him.He's misunderstood. His job for us is to provide the link between the midfield and attack, hold the ball up, and create space for Cristiano
He keeps playing for us because Cristiano is better playing next to him, and getting the best out of Cristiano is obviously the best way to win games. The only player who would be better for us, next to Cris, right now is Lewandowski who isn't attainable
That said, he's a very inconsistent player and incredibly frustrating to watch when he's off form. When he's on song though...
Lewa could do all the things Benzema does better than Benzema, he and Cristiano would need to learn to play together but at the end of the day, Cristiano will score his no matter who plays with him and how. And Lewa could still score 30+ playing with Cristiano for us
Lewandoski is a true CF who expects to be on the end of the final pass and doesnt really look to set up others.
Lewandoski: 293 games (24k mins) 191 goals 41 assists
Benzema: 324 games (21k mins) 162 goals 77 assists
Benzema has almost double the assists for Lewandoski in less game time while the Polish striker is likely the better goal scorer.
I don't get you guys. You keep bigging up these non prolific scores, whilst we struggle to score goals. What exactly are you expecting these strikers to do? Set up more chances for our players to miss?
Not really.
Lewandowski is on a team where they force feed him the ball quite a lot and is option 1. When and if he goes to la liga, you can tell the huge difference in technique from Lewandowski vs Benzema. Lewandowski isn't some accurate striker. This dude needs like 10 good chances a game to score as much as he does in an inferior league.
He's more like Morata without pace than benzema, who has the best technique outside of zlatan at the n9 position.
Lewandowski is on a team where they force feed him the ball quite a lot and is option 1. When and if he goes to la liga, you can tell the huge difference in technique from Lewandowski vs Benzema. Lewandowski isn't some accurate striker. This dude needs like 10 good chances a game to score as much as he does in an inferior league.
He's more like Morata without pace than benzema, who has the best technique outside of zlatan at the n9 position.
Let's for once, in a last 4 years, do a sensible, not Galactico kinda a thing. Go all out for Morata, don't even think about Benzema.