I admire your up optimism, but Kaka and Shev can not be compared. Kaka is world fecking class. There was always going to be a question mark over whether Shev would work. Kaka would make any team better
Hope it's untrue
Kaka open to Chelsea move
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I admire your up optimism, but Kaka and Shev can not be compared. Kaka is world fecking class. There was always going to be a question mark over whether Shev would work. Kaka would make any team better
Hope it's untrue
Which to be fair, is absolute bollocks.
Chelsea back in for Kaka with Brazil star set to leave Real Madrid | Mail Online
Chelsea are in pole position to sign Brazil playmaker Kaka from Real Madrid.
The 28-year-old is tipped to leave the Bernabeu after a disappointing first season in La Liga and sources in Spain insist a move to Stamford Bridge is the most likely destination for a player once seen as the best in the world.
Carlo Ancelotti insists he doesn't need to add to his side in January unless there he is beset by injuries, but a reunion with Kaka would be impossible to resist.
The Italian has never hidden his admiration for the attacking midfielder and admitted in the summer that he would be at the front of the queue if Real Madrid were willing to sell.
Ancelotti got the best out of Kaka when they worked together at AC Milan - only for both to leave the San Siro last year.
Milan, their rivals Inter and Manchester City have all been linked with a swoop, but well-connected Madrid radio station Cadena Ser insists Chelsea are the favourites for his signature.
A deal would not be without difficulty. Madrid may allow him to leave on loan in January once Kaka has returned from a knee injury that has kept him out all season.
However, Bernabeu president Florentino Perez is a huge fan of Kaka and would demand a hefty fee after paying out £56million for him last year.
Nonetheless, coach Jose Mourinho could already have rendered him surplus to requirements.
The former Chelsea boss has put his faith in a new generation and would be reluctant to hinder the progress of Mesut Ozil and Sergio Canales.
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I don't see us spending a fortune to sign him, but a loan till the end of the season could potentially suit all parties.
Chelsea are in pole position to sign Brazil playmaker Kaka from Real Madrid.
The 28-year-old is tipped to leave the Bernabeu after a disappointing first season in La Liga and sources in Spain insist a move to Stamford Bridge is the most likely destination for a player once seen as the best in the world.
Carlo Ancelotti insists he doesn't need to add to his side in January unless there he is beset by injuries, but a reunion with Kaka would be impossible to resist.
The Italian has never hidden his admiration for the attacking midfielder and admitted in the summer that he would be at the front of the queue if Real Madrid were willing to sell.
Ancelotti got the best out of Kaka when they worked together at AC Milan - only for both to leave the San Siro last year.
Milan, their rivals Inter and Manchester City have all been linked with a swoop, but well-connected Madrid radio station Cadena Ser insists Chelsea are the favourites for his signature.
A deal would not be without difficulty. Madrid may allow him to leave on loan in January once Kaka has returned from a knee injury that has kept him out all season.
However, Bernabeu president Florentino Perez is a huge fan of Kaka and would demand a hefty fee after paying out £56million for him last year.
Nonetheless, coach Jose Mourinho could already have rendered him surplus to requirements.
The former Chelsea boss has put his faith in a new generation and would be reluctant to hinder the progress of Mesut Ozil and Sergio Canales.
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I don't see us spending a fortune to sign him, but a loan till the end of the season could potentially suit all parties.
It's hilarious (and mental) that Madrid paid 56 million quid for someone that can't even get a game. Absolute joke of a club. Even worse than City.
I think that's a bit harsh in this case. He was played in just about every game he was fit for in his first season, then he just got bollocksed with injuries. He's definitely surplus to requirements now though.
Even worse than city my ass, compare their trophy haul Pogue
He's 28 years old. And they paid £56 million quid for him. £56 million quid. Has he even played a single game in his second season at the club?
There's not another club on the planet who would write off an asset like that with such indecent haste. The way they are able to chew up and spit out players with complete disregard for the financial constraints that (most) other clubs operate under is disgraceful IMO.
Hmm, not sure about that, in what way is it disgraceful? The players are well paid.
Kaka is injured. Thats why he hasnt played.
EDIT - He's still overrated though.
EDIT - He's still overrated though.
I'm not sure how he would fit in at Chelsea when Lampard is fit. To be honest I don't really want to find out though.
Pogue, worth pointing out that Kaka's still recovering from what was described as a career threatening injury, and that he's been struggling with injuries on and off over the past couple of years.
"This knee has been bothering me for quite some time. But I didn't know that it was so serious. I was the first to be surprised.
"I was always being treated for a groin strain and I was told that it could cause muscular imbalance in other parts, but I didn't know it was so serious."
Doesn't take away from Madrid being a bunch of dicks, just not really in this case.
"This knee has been bothering me for quite some time. But I didn't know that it was so serious. I was the first to be surprised.
"I was always being treated for a groin strain and I was told that it could cause muscular imbalance in other parts, but I didn't know it was so serious."
Doesn't take away from Madrid being a bunch of dicks, just not really in this case.
From the player's perspective it's not the financial issues, so much as the years of their career wasted by such an impatient employer. They go into it with open eyes, though, so I don't have much sympathy for them. It's not as though there isn't loads of precedents to serve as warning.
My comment was mainly about the recklessness with money and the way the Spanish government has facilitated this. Financial doping, as Wenger would say.
How old was Zidane when they signed him? Turned out to be a pretty decent bit of business. Besides, Kaka has probably made half that back in shirt sales and sponsorship.
Arguably the best player in the world a couple of years ago who has suffered again and again with injury.
For what its worth, in the world cup he didn't seem to be the player he was a short while before. Another player who may have played his bst football, and his slide has been hidden in the perrenially slow Serie A?
All the more reason to be patient, surely? When there's a good reason for him having a difficult debut season?
If he's Owen Hargreave'd, though, than it's a different scenario entirely. Seems odd Chelsea would be in for him though.
I don't think he's anywhere near Owen Hargreaves' state tbf. As for Madrid treating players badly, the modern Real have done that for ages but the players know the score when they join such a club, maybe Kaka thought that he was simply too good to be marginalised at Madrid. He couldn't have foreseen the arrival of Ozil. Mind you Mourinho has stated that he wanted to work with Kaka in the past, so maybe all's not lost for Kaka. If he finds his form after making a full recovery, I can see the fans and the board getting behind him, given just how ridiculously fickle they are.
I don't see how you could call a club that is big as United and much more successful a joke, city are though
Milan truly fecked Madrid in the arse with that transfer, the money aswell despite him not being in form for 3 seasons aswell.
They really are a joke and Perez is the jackass behind it all
30+ leagues and 9 european cups....if we had that, and were called jokes, then what would the scousers be called.
Absolutely, it explains a lot about his form over the past couple of years and if this surgery can get him back to a high level then it could even make the transfer fee close to justified. Not really sure where he's at in his recovery though, given that his injuries are spread over muscle and cartilage injuries, including repeated injuries to his groin and knee...it might be very difficult to make a strong recovery.
It's only a crappy article in the Daily Mail, probably stole from a crappier article in Marca or some bollocks. Seems a bit early to condemn them for treatment of Kaka on the back of one rumour.
With Ozil's form and Canales' potential, I don't think Kaka is required by Madrid at the moment, but he is a world-class player and he would be a wonderful signing for any club, if played in the right position. Could definitely see him going to Chelsea if Madrid sold him.
By the time he can play again (January maybe) he'll have missed a year of club football (although he managed a few off the pace games for Brazil at eth WC).
If Madrid haven't imploded and aren't in an injury crisis he'll be trying to get match fit at a time when every game matters and Mourinho will have problems giving him more than a few minutes a week to prove himself. If Ozil or Di Maria are out of form/injured, then I can see him getting chosen ahead of Canales/Leon, but only if he delivers fast - Mourinho won't dare miss points in La Liga in the hopes Kaka'll be good in April/May.
I wouldn't be surprised if they do loan him out. I also wouldn't be surprised if they then recall him for net season. I certainly don't think we'll be seeing him offered cheap to anyone.
If Madrid haven't imploded and aren't in an injury crisis he'll be trying to get match fit at a time when every game matters and Mourinho will have problems giving him more than a few minutes a week to prove himself. If Ozil or Di Maria are out of form/injured, then I can see him getting chosen ahead of Canales/Leon, but only if he delivers fast - Mourinho won't dare miss points in La Liga in the hopes Kaka'll be good in April/May.
I wouldn't be surprised if they do loan him out. I also wouldn't be surprised if they then recall him for net season. I certainly don't think we'll be seeing him offered cheap to anyone.
I still think Kaka is fully capable, he's clearly been playing a different way to what made him the best player around a few years due to his knee(s), but he's still very effective for Brazil, and had plenty of flashes of greatness for Madrid, ok not that consistently, but it was there. I don't think his injuries are as serious as made out, he just delayed the surgery in favour of guaranteeing a world cup like a few players also did(Xavi for one), but I don't really know, I'm just assuming there.
Madrid are an impatient team, I agree, but these players know what they are getting into when they sign for them. But the fact they are almost happily ready to write-off both Benzema and Kaka, £100m worth of players, after less than probably 50 FULL games between them, is just insane. But they have other players who have stepped it up, so they pretty much HAVE to sell them as fast they can really.
Madrid are an impatient team, I agree, but these players know what they are getting into when they sign for them. But the fact they are almost happily ready to write-off both Benzema and Kaka, £100m worth of players, after less than probably 50 FULL games between them, is just insane. But they have other players who have stepped it up, so they pretty much HAVE to sell them as fast they can really.
I actually I hope they sign him. 28 years old, dependent on his pace, he is on the way downwards... Even if he will cost anything close to the €60m Real Madrid paid for him, he will still cost a fair penny, not to mention a decent wage bills. They could invest their money more wisely than Kaka. The thing about Chelsea is that Ancelotti would know exactly how to use Kaka.
Malouda, Drogba, Anelka, Kaka... Their attacking lineup would be great, however rather old too.
Malouda, Drogba, Anelka, Kaka... Their attacking lineup would be great, however rather old too.
Chelsea really do need to start looking at younger attacking talent in my opinion, their entire first choice front line is the wrong side of 30 and in the next couple of years they'll clearly start showing signs of wane, plus i dont see where Kaka fits in at Chelsea? unless they change their system and build the team around him which to ge the best out of him he clearly requires.
We should give Milan some credit for their shrewdness. They got a good deal of money for a player who I think they knew had injury problems. He did not even play well for Madrid last season unlike Ronaldo, who left us and is one of the best if not the best in the world.
Lampard will be 33 by the time the summer transfer window opens, he was only supposed to be out a couple of weeks or so with his currently layoff but it keeps getting extended and is perhaps a sign that age is catching up with him. One thing is for certain and that is his capability to cover 10 miles on the pitch in a match will not be starting to depreciate in the not to distant future.
Barthelona, Ibrahimovic
Anyway Ibrahimovic for Etoo
Agree.
But Barcelona are saints, so let's forget this little Ibrahimovic/Eto'o episode.
Barthelona, Ibrahimovic
Anyway Ibrahimovic for Etoo
I actually think Zlatan is better than Eto'o, because Eto'o need someone creative like Ronaldinho, Iniesta/Xavi or Sneijder behind him - Zlatan both scores a lot of goals himself but he also creates a lot for others. It was not Barcelona whom did a incredible stupid deal, it was Mourinho's genius whom brought Pandev, Milito, Eto'o and first and foremost Sneijder in for all the money arriving from Zlatan - but Zlatan had done enough in Italy to defend the price tag. His departure could have lead to disaster at Inter. Given time Zlatan could have been great at Barcelona.
What is laughable. Is that Villa and Eto'o are two very similar players - if you take all the best forwards in the world and compare them to another - those are probably the two whom are most similar. It is hard to say whom is better than the other but both of them scores a great amount of goals.
Basically, Barcelona spent €100m to get back to about the same vantage point as they started with. All they have done in the process is make both Inter and AC Milan better teams in the process. Of course they made €24m and €15m on selling Eto'o and Ibra... Still its a loss of about €50m.
Georgie Best must be FranklyVulgar in disguise. Eto'o is a much, much better striker than Ibrahimovic, much more clinical and able to deliver the goods at the biggest stages of club football. Ibrahimovic is a little baby that hides whenever it matters.
Better striker, probably, he scores a lot more goals - more of a natural goalscorer, that is for sure. But is he a better player? Not sure.
Ibrahimovic is more like Berbatov. He is not a massive goalscorer, but he is a creator. Now Ibra has scored a lot of goals in Italy, he scored 25 in his last season a remarkable achievement whom so far is unequaled by Eto'o. And Eto'o has always had the best playmakers behind him, something Zlatan did not have the year he scored 25.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic is one of the best players in the world, and clearly underrated by very many.
Ibrahimovic is more like Berbatov. He is not a massive goalscorer, but he is a creator. Now Ibra has scored a lot of goals in Italy, he scored 25 in his last season a remarkable achievement whom so far is unequaled by Eto'o. And Eto'o has always had the best playmakers behind him, something Zlatan did not have the year he scored 25.
Zlatan Ibrahimovic is one of the best players in the world, and clearly underrated by very many.
Chelsea would be made to pay mega bucks for him.
Would be superb at United if we could get him for a decent price.
Would be superb at United if we could get him for a decent price.
The only reason Eto has not scored as many goals as Ibra did at Inter is because in his first season, Eto was not a striker upfront - he was playing on the wing in a 4-3-3 formation and you could not expect him to score 25-30 goals from there. Secondly, this is only his second season at Inter. I think this season Eto is going to score a lot of goals for Inter.
Ibra is NOT a creator. He wants everyone to do the dirty work for him. He is selfish if anything.
All Ibra wants is attention. When he was at Inter, he was complaining about how no one else does anything to help the team and how he must carry them. At Barca he was a little overshadowed with the likes of Messi, Iniesta and Xavi around. He is such a wuss! He claims Pep did not talk to him for like SIX months. Do you know how long that is? How can a manager not talk to his own player for 180 days even though they see each other and train with each other every single of those freaking 180 days?
Ibra is not one of the best in the world and is clearly overrated by you.
Barcelona. Ibrahimovic. At least Madrid are honest about being purely a money team, as opposed to Barca's "we're a club of the people" nonsense.
EDIT: Nvrmind, point already made...shoulda kept reading
Ibra is not one of the best. Overrated footballer. Eto'o is miles better.
They don't need him, given their mid-field at present.
Waste of money, given his current form and injury prone history.
Waste of money, given his current form and injury prone history.
He is not underrated, same as Berbatov, this lad has attitude problems and shows them on the pitch...
I'm not sure the pace and physical aspect of the Premiership would suit Kaka.
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Which playermaker was that then? Maicon?
This season Eto'o is playing as a striker with a playmaker behind him, and well it looks like he'll smash that Zlatan record.