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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Ashwin @AR87 are here to discuss two "on-paper" not great results for United over the last week, but are there positive signs of progress despite what the ex-United pundits are saying?
They also preview the big game Europa League game against Lyon.
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David Neres didn't score or assist in only two Eredivisie games he played in.
Willem II: A+G
AZ: A
Excelsior: A
PSV: G+A
FC Twente: A
Roda JC: A
NAC: G
FC Utrecht: X
Willem II: G
Feyenoord: AAA
Sparta: G
Heerenveen: GG
ADO: X
PEC: A
VVV: G
Not many son's of footballers go on to emulate their dad's careers, be great if he could!
His dad was some player, i remember when Patrick Kluivert a teenager at Ajax around 96/97 was tipped as the next big thing and was always linked with United in the papers.
But yeah son's of legendary footballers, name often becomes too big for them, Jordi Cruyff as an example, if i remember right used to just have 'Jordi' on the back of his shirt.
His dad was some player, i remember when Patrick Kluivert a teenager at Ajax around 96/97 was tipped as the next big thing and was always linked with United in the papers.
But yeah son's of legendary footballers, name often becomes too big for them, Jordi Cruyff as an example, if i remember right used to just have 'Jordi' on the back of his shirt.
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Relax dude, thats was for fun.
There are some Dutch kids in that line up too.
Those are young players that i rate.
Are you calling me biased to try look non-biased?
In the Arthur thread i said he would need european experience before going to a club like United.
Of course i'm talking about experience, not "level." I have no doubt about his talent and any person in the Cafe can watch him and take their own conclusions.
The final of the Libertadores for example is in the youtube. The full match.
Its sarcasm Giorno? Watch his old videos; always losing the ball.
The worst one that i remember was in the Olimpics of 1996. He try to dribble a Nigerian in the midfield instead of pass it, loses the ball and Nigeria score the golden goal.
In his heyday at Depor and Barca one of his best qualities was that he pretty much never lost the ball. Tried a lot of stuff sure, but it was pretty much always the right thing to do. Almost never made a bad decision with the ball.
Think Neres looks better right now. Also think Neres should be the one we should be getting as he looks very very good. Great to see ajax having three great attacking talents.
I was against Neres leaving Brazil early but it’s good to here Neres is doing really good. I think another season or 2 in Holland will be good for him before he needs to move.
I'd still prefer Moura on the cheap instead of say Kluivert. If Chelsea hasn't bought him yet that is...
Stop talking about Moura ffs he's shit
Has anyone been watching him since he went to Roma,how has he been getting on in serie a and is he getting his game ?
Imagine being Justin Kluivert and leaving Ajax for Roma last season to experience football on a higher level 
Oops, I guess.Imagine being Justin Kluivert and leaving Ajax for Roma last season to experience football on a higher level
Last year Ajax were eliminated by Rosenborg at early stages of Europa League while Roma went out at the semifinal of Champions Leagues against Liverpool…. how football's opinions and results changes so quickly is incredible.
Anyway as usual in the history of Ajax management (or dutch football in general) this season will be the great chance for them to bring in big cash for their major talents (not only De Jong or De Ligt)
Add him to the list of Dutch wingers I'd rather EtH bought instead of Antony.
He's a proper prick, won't score for 6 games in a row in Fantasy Football then pops up with a brace or hattrick when you swap him out.
This. He’s been on my bench every time he’s done something this season. Binned him off for good this week out of frustration.
Bags a brace to give me a proper feck off.
Prick.
Could be worse… you could have kept him and benched him again.
Posting for a friend….
Incredible this thread was started in 2017. I still thought he was about 21/22!
He's already done the rounds of big continental sides so Bournemouth is perfect place for him to stay and develop as they play exactly the type of football he can excel in.
Will surely break into the Netherlands 11 now.
He's already done the rounds of big continental sides so Bournemouth is perfect place for him to stay and develop as they play exactly the type of football he can excel in.
Will surely break into the Netherlands 11 now.
Purple patch or his new baseline? If the latter, they’ll struggle to keep him past the summer.
Finally living up to his dad's name!
Dont think thats the case. Semenyo and Dango have more goals from open play and overall better general play. Kluivert is ahead on end product/goals but he has 6 penalties
Even without the 6 penalties - which ar3 hardly dismissable - Kluivert has 5G 4A (10) and Semenyo 7G 3A (9), where Kluivert also has around 75% of the PL minutes Semenyo has this season..
Kluivert his form and impact on the team - also in open play and in his press - is really awesome to see..
It really looks he is maturing into an awesome player.. Difficult to say though to what extent he is on a purple patch and overperforming or whether this is something he can continue to deliver.. I really hope the latter!
Well yes he's played less than Semenyo, but hes played more than Dango and less g+a from open play. As someone who watches Bournemouth, Kluivert is very good for counter attacks with his speed and comfort on the ball but he has matches where he has good chances and misses, a bit like Garnacho. He's also been quite inconsistent overall - his recent run of 4-6 games he has found that consistancy and scored 6 in the last 4 and 7 in the last 6 with 3 assists as well.
The point was that overall he hasnt been better than the other Bournemouth attackers and players in general. Dango and Semenyo are also doing great so its not a case of taking the one Bournemouth player who is ahead of everyone. Dango has 5 goals and 3 assists from open play in the last 9 games. Kluivert has 4 from open play and 3 assists in his last 9 league games and then 2 penalties on top.
They have several attacking players doing well and thats one of the reasons they are 7th and just thrashed the 4th placed team.
Having a great spell of form recently. Doing his family name proud!
Very true..
I do really think that the impact of the overall level Bournemouth reaches is more impacted by Kluivert than Semenyo or Dango.. Kluivert plays in the centre and more from midfiels, drops a lot deeper, has a more complicated role in pressure (timing of releasing from midfield an pressuring the central defender).. So I really feel that the recent performances from Bournemouth against Forrest, Newcastle are really for a significant part also due to Kluivert - apart from goals and assists - really maturing into reliable player with a high workrate and tactically smart to adhere to the plan..
If he can keep this up and continues to deliver end-product.. Bournemouth might not be his ceiling..
Always loved him as a youth player, people were really harsh on him here in the Netherlands. Not sure if his technique is consistent enough to play in the middle for the longer term.
Wait, he's got a famous dad?! They never seem to mention it in commentary...
Got a superb striking technique, lovely to watch.
Maybe the expectations were out of proportion due to his dad and peoples hype of young players. He always had a tidy finish when I saw the Barca youth games but didn’t quite have the edge special ones have. His younger brother is similar in style and hopefully they both have good careers.
What are you on about? Justin Kluivert joined the Ajax academy at 8 and never player for Barcelona in the academy..
His younger 17yo brother currently does..
Nice column here on Justin Kluivert and Bournemouth in Dutch Media Voetbal International:
Last season, under the leadership of Andoni Iraola, Bournemouth broke their record for points in the top tier. This year, the team has proven even more difficult to play against. We take a look at the development of Justin Kluivert (25) and the mechanics behind one of the most interesting teams in the world.
This season, Kluivert has shown his class in top matches against Arsenal, Manchester United, and Chelsea. In November, he made history by scoring three penalties against Wolverhampton Wanderers. Most recently, he added his second Premier League hat-trick against Newcastle United. Kluivert played a crucial role in the convincing 5-1 victory over West Bromwich Albion in the third round of the FA Cup. In all competitions, he has scored twelve goals and provided five assists. With six successful penalty kicks and a total of eleven league goals, he is currently the highest-scoring Dutch player in the Premier League.
It's clear that the 25-year-old striker, in his second season on the English south coast, is on an upward trajectory. After a wandering career through Europe, he has found the ideal environment to explore his potential as a footballer at AFC Bournemouth. His coach looks beyond just the penalties he scores or the goals he makes. While those are important and crucial, Andoni Iraola focuses on other aspects to further develop both the players and the team.
This was evident after Kluivert's hat-trick against Newcastle. Iraola congratulated him on his goals, but emphasized the work he did without the ball and the personal duels he won. These elements form the core of Bournemouth's football, intertwined in the DNA of both the team and their coach.
Focusing on Kluivert automatically means focusing on Bournemouth as a team. One cannot be seen separately from the other. The signature of the Basque Iraola is clearly evident in the team's play, having been appointed as the successor to the successful Gary O'Neil a year and a half ago. Initially, his arrival led to skepticism and criticism. The ideas of the new coach were not immediately understood.
Iraola had a clear plan: he wanted to turn Bournemouth into a pressing machine, just as he had previously done successfully with Rayo Vallecano. The goal was to win the ball on the opponent's half and play from there. In the meantime, Bournemouth has become increasingly better at this concept. So much so that you can undoubtedly state that, purely in terms of putting pressure on the opponent's half, there is no team in the Premier League - and thus in the world - that does it better than The Cherries.
Two out of three of Kluivert's recent goals against Newcastle came from ball recoveries on the opponent's half. If you zoom in on the Dutchman during a match, you can see how he and his teammates have developed an almost instinctive sense of the right moment to overwhelm the opponent. When an opponent begins to build up, the Bournemouth players know exactly how to make the trap snap shut. If they lose the ball themselves, they immediately switch to a mechanism that has become second nature: to quickly regain possession of the ball.
This makes Bournemouth a difficult opponent because their intensity constantly puts you under pressure. Whether it's Kluivert, Tyler Adams, Ryan Christie, or Antoine Semenyo - they are all ready to go. Together, they form an impressive swarm that works best like an orange juicer: once caught between Bournemouth legs, there is no escaping.
In October, Iraola explained the thought behind his playing style in an interview with Sky Sports. He has taught his players to embrace the chaos on the pitch. The high-pressure approach has become part of the identity of his team. Iraola admitted that his team performs less well in matches where little happens and a few chances are decisive. "Most of the matches we win are the matches where the game is more open, where more chances are created, where we can exploit one-on-one situations and find larger spaces. Attacking in smaller spaces is not our strength."
It's noticeable how fit and athletic Bournemouth looks. The club selects specifically for these qualities, while Iraola closely monitors the process that leads to the intensity the team shows during matches. In an interview with The Guardian last year, Iraola explained how important it is for players to fully embrace his vision, because otherwise, it won't work. "You only achieve this if you train in the same way and everyone is fully committed to it. Athletic ability is essential in this regard. We don't want matches to stall. I always say, ask for the ball, especially when you're tired. If you wait until you're rested before asking for the ball again or sprinting into space, everyone can do that. You're a Premier League footballer. When you're tired, that's the moment to push your opponent because they are tired too."
A good gauge of a coach's performance is often the number of players within a team who have developed individually. At Bournemouth, there are currently a striking number of such players. Ilya Zabarnyi (22) and Dean Huijsen (19) form a young central defensive duo, which many scouts are watching with great interest. Milos Kerkez, still only 21, is now on the radar of the English top clubs. Kepa Arrizabalaga, after a few turbulent years at Chelsea and a loan spell at Real Madrid, has quietly taken on the role of a reliable goalkeeper. Antoine Semenyo has grown into a mature and sought-after force in the Premier League. The midfield, with American Tyler Adams and Scot Ryan Christie, perfectly fits the intensive playing style that Iraola demands of his team. Together, they form the foundation of a team that is making progress both individually and collectively.
And then there's Justin Kluivert, officially Iraola's first signing as Bournemouth's coach. At the very beginning, it was especially remarkable that he was one of the few players who could say he had played and scored in all of Europe's top leagues. Kluivert previously played for AS Roma and on loan at RB Leipzig, OGC Nice, and Valencia before settling in southern England. He also carried the label of being the son of, which often formed part of the story about his career.
He has often been accused of leaving the Netherlands too young, and for a long time, the question hung over his head of what direction his development would take and whether he would fulfill his potential. In his second Premier League season, he shows that he is not only a regular player at an ambitious English top team but also that he effortlessly adapts to the high demands of both his coach and the competition.
His talent was never in doubt, but now he also shows the willingness to take that talent to a higher level. The result? He is knocking on the door of the Dutch national team. By fully immersing himself in Bournemouth's pressing football, Kluivert has become a modern attacking midfielder. A footballer who fits perfectly into the football of 2025.
Last season, under the leadership of Andoni Iraola, Bournemouth broke their record for points in the top tier. This year, the team has proven even more difficult to play against. We take a look at the development of Justin Kluivert (25) and the mechanics behind one of the most interesting teams in the world.
This season, Kluivert has shown his class in top matches against Arsenal, Manchester United, and Chelsea. In November, he made history by scoring three penalties against Wolverhampton Wanderers. Most recently, he added his second Premier League hat-trick against Newcastle United. Kluivert played a crucial role in the convincing 5-1 victory over West Bromwich Albion in the third round of the FA Cup. In all competitions, he has scored twelve goals and provided five assists. With six successful penalty kicks and a total of eleven league goals, he is currently the highest-scoring Dutch player in the Premier League.
It's clear that the 25-year-old striker, in his second season on the English south coast, is on an upward trajectory. After a wandering career through Europe, he has found the ideal environment to explore his potential as a footballer at AFC Bournemouth. His coach looks beyond just the penalties he scores or the goals he makes. While those are important and crucial, Andoni Iraola focuses on other aspects to further develop both the players and the team.
This was evident after Kluivert's hat-trick against Newcastle. Iraola congratulated him on his goals, but emphasized the work he did without the ball and the personal duels he won. These elements form the core of Bournemouth's football, intertwined in the DNA of both the team and their coach.
Focusing on Kluivert automatically means focusing on Bournemouth as a team. One cannot be seen separately from the other. The signature of the Basque Iraola is clearly evident in the team's play, having been appointed as the successor to the successful Gary O'Neil a year and a half ago. Initially, his arrival led to skepticism and criticism. The ideas of the new coach were not immediately understood.
Iraola had a clear plan: he wanted to turn Bournemouth into a pressing machine, just as he had previously done successfully with Rayo Vallecano. The goal was to win the ball on the opponent's half and play from there. In the meantime, Bournemouth has become increasingly better at this concept. So much so that you can undoubtedly state that, purely in terms of putting pressure on the opponent's half, there is no team in the Premier League - and thus in the world - that does it better than The Cherries.
Two out of three of Kluivert's recent goals against Newcastle came from ball recoveries on the opponent's half. If you zoom in on the Dutchman during a match, you can see how he and his teammates have developed an almost instinctive sense of the right moment to overwhelm the opponent. When an opponent begins to build up, the Bournemouth players know exactly how to make the trap snap shut. If they lose the ball themselves, they immediately switch to a mechanism that has become second nature: to quickly regain possession of the ball.
This makes Bournemouth a difficult opponent because their intensity constantly puts you under pressure. Whether it's Kluivert, Tyler Adams, Ryan Christie, or Antoine Semenyo - they are all ready to go. Together, they form an impressive swarm that works best like an orange juicer: once caught between Bournemouth legs, there is no escaping.
In October, Iraola explained the thought behind his playing style in an interview with Sky Sports. He has taught his players to embrace the chaos on the pitch. The high-pressure approach has become part of the identity of his team. Iraola admitted that his team performs less well in matches where little happens and a few chances are decisive. "Most of the matches we win are the matches where the game is more open, where more chances are created, where we can exploit one-on-one situations and find larger spaces. Attacking in smaller spaces is not our strength."
It's noticeable how fit and athletic Bournemouth looks. The club selects specifically for these qualities, while Iraola closely monitors the process that leads to the intensity the team shows during matches. In an interview with The Guardian last year, Iraola explained how important it is for players to fully embrace his vision, because otherwise, it won't work. "You only achieve this if you train in the same way and everyone is fully committed to it. Athletic ability is essential in this regard. We don't want matches to stall. I always say, ask for the ball, especially when you're tired. If you wait until you're rested before asking for the ball again or sprinting into space, everyone can do that. You're a Premier League footballer. When you're tired, that's the moment to push your opponent because they are tired too."
A good gauge of a coach's performance is often the number of players within a team who have developed individually. At Bournemouth, there are currently a striking number of such players. Ilya Zabarnyi (22) and Dean Huijsen (19) form a young central defensive duo, which many scouts are watching with great interest. Milos Kerkez, still only 21, is now on the radar of the English top clubs. Kepa Arrizabalaga, after a few turbulent years at Chelsea and a loan spell at Real Madrid, has quietly taken on the role of a reliable goalkeeper. Antoine Semenyo has grown into a mature and sought-after force in the Premier League. The midfield, with American Tyler Adams and Scot Ryan Christie, perfectly fits the intensive playing style that Iraola demands of his team. Together, they form the foundation of a team that is making progress both individually and collectively.
And then there's Justin Kluivert, officially Iraola's first signing as Bournemouth's coach. At the very beginning, it was especially remarkable that he was one of the few players who could say he had played and scored in all of Europe's top leagues. Kluivert previously played for AS Roma and on loan at RB Leipzig, OGC Nice, and Valencia before settling in southern England. He also carried the label of being the son of, which often formed part of the story about his career.
He has often been accused of leaving the Netherlands too young, and for a long time, the question hung over his head of what direction his development would take and whether he would fulfill his potential. In his second Premier League season, he shows that he is not only a regular player at an ambitious English top team but also that he effortlessly adapts to the high demands of both his coach and the competition.
His talent was never in doubt, but now he also shows the willingness to take that talent to a higher level. The result? He is knocking on the door of the Dutch national team. By fully immersing himself in Bournemouth's pressing football, Kluivert has become a modern attacking midfielder. A footballer who fits perfectly into the football of 2025.
Calm down, it was a slip when I was thinking about his younger sibling who does play for Barca youth. Ive watched Ajax youth games and international youth tournaments he has played in.