Who's better? You can certainly make a case for Klopp, but who else? Hecking, Weinzierl? Nah. Löw?
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Why only Guardiola then? Out of the two, it is Klopp who has done well with financial restrictions and more limited players whereas Guardiola has spent big money to add to the world class players he already has in his career. Both are top managers but I don't understand why it should be only Guardiola for people to worry about. There are other managers out there who have more experience working with financial restrictions than Guardiola, so I do not see why it should be only him that they should sign if limited money is your concern. With that said, either him or Klopp would only go to City if they knew they would be backed financially and could get who they want.
What a strange timing for it.
If he took a year off, I really hope he is returning to German TV as an expert/analyst. He is highly entertaining!
Anyone else think this might have something to do with Klopp might being unhappy with Hummels deciding to leave?
12:30 BST, why?
He doesn't strike me as the sabbatical kind. I fully expect him to answer City's call.
I meant, before the season's end.
I know, sorry! Felt bad as soon as I wrote it
I don't mind Rodgers, but I'll gladly pay for a ticket back to Northern Ireland if there's even a slight chance of bagging Klopp.
A year off and then Arsenal makes the most sense to me, though.
A year off and then Arsenal makes the most sense to me, though.
What exactly has Tuchel achieved so far at the highest Level?Who's better? You can certainly make a case for Klopp, but who else? Hecking, Weinzierl? Nah. Löw?
My guess: Sabbatical.
Have you seen his last interviews? The guy has nearly burn-out. He will do what Pep or Tuchel did. One year for spending some time with the family. (By the way: While coaches are not working, their image is getting better and better. After one year he will be seen as a saviour.)
Have you seen his last interviews? The guy has nearly burn-out. He will do what Pep or Tuchel did. One year for spending some time with the family. (By the way: While coaches are not working, their image is getting better and better. After one year he will be seen as a saviour.)
Not really that worried about the prospect of him at City to be honest. They're going to be up there somewhere whoever they get, and I'm not convinced he'll make them unbeatable. We want to get to a stage where we can win the league over Mourinho's Chelsea and that will likely include taking us above a Manchester City managed by Klopp anyway. Plus success at a new club is never a sure thing. It wasn't that long ago that AVB was the dogs bollocks and destined to be the second coming of Mourinho at Chelsea.
I guess it was impossible to keep under wraps once Tuchel declined the Hamburg job. There had to be a bigger story behind it the way it went down and it didn't take long for the better informed football writers in Germany to find out.
No problem.I know, sorry! Felt bad as soon as I wrote it
I hope he goes to City and fecks them up the way he did to Dortmund.
It'd test the loyalty of a lot of Caftards, what with them getting a boner every time Klopp's name gets mentioned.
It'd test the loyalty of a lot of Caftards, what with them getting a boner every time Klopp's name gets mentioned.
Gonna be a Dinamo Zagreb coach, Zdravko Mamić is firing his brother Zoran.
You heard it here first.
You heard it here first.
I wouldn't be that worried if he went to the Emptihad, as he would have to deal with the FFP restrictions that are in place now, combined with their lack of academy players coming through.
It would be a scary prospect if he did indeed go to Arsenal as they have everything in place to make it work for him, especially the brand of football they play and the fact that they don't need rebuilding.
It would be a scary prospect if he did indeed go to Arsenal as they have everything in place to make it work for him, especially the brand of football they play and the fact that they don't need rebuilding.
I got a semi just reading this
Whats up with that Tuchel guy, dont know much about him.
That's true, in both cases it was maybe too much, it seems 4,5 years are the best time for him, after that he struggles to improve the team further and it gets worse. On the other side he hasn't managed a really top side with unlimited money, so we can't really say how he will do in the long run when he doesn't lose his best players every year. Guardola is seen as one of the best and he clearly is, but he also managed only the two best sides in Europe in the last few years and not a smaller, limited club, so it's difficult to compare them. Klopp is a very good coach and I like him, therefore I really don't want to see him at City, I would hate to hate him
Fair point.
No we're not - Wenger is here til 2017 at least probably 2020.
That would have been way too late for Dortmund and for any club who is interested in employing Klopp.
Good point. Ouch. Didn't even think about that.
Had a horrendous season this year and suffered under the pressure in a league like the Bundesliga. The Premiership could eat him alive. I for one am happy we've not been in a position to get him, would rather have a strict no nonsense manager who won't be overcome by divas. Klopp had a couple of great seasons when the expectation wasn't there, La Liga and the Premier League are different animals.
They like to line people up and announce things early too
I really hope he doesn't join City, I love the guy.
Reus is surely available again this summer then? I thought having Klopp would've played a big part in him signing a new contract.
You're understating it honestly.
I'd place Guardiola and Mourinho ahead of him. That's it.
Citeh bound.
If he doesn't take a sabbatical, I'd be fine if he went to City. Would increase chances of United signing Guardiola in 2017 with Arsenal the main competition.
Even with Klopp leaving, Dortmund will do their best to make sure there's not an exodus of players. Can see Hummels and Gundogan leaving. Thats it.
Even with Klopp leaving, Dortmund will do their best to make sure there's not an exodus of players. Can see Hummels and Gundogan leaving. Thats it.
His next job is vital for his career. I remember when Ramos from Sevilla or AVB were the next big things in management and their next job sent them down the rabbit hole.
Let's wait and see before we compare him to Wegner etc
Let's wait and see before we compare him to Wegner etc
Good young german coach, had good seasons with Mainz and brought them into the EL. I think he is a little bit overrated, because everyone really wants to see a Klopp 2.0 in him (german, young, crazy, Mainz and now Dortmund^^). But he is a good coach and potentially very good, just has to prove more for me. Dortmund will be the test for him, I can see Hummels, Gündogan and Reus leaving now, will be a big transition, but he will also have a lot of money to build his own team. Could be interesting
Can't see him be an immediate success at city. Their squad is FAR from the kinds of players Klopp's system requires. And of course, I'm not sure they'll let him stay and build a long term team
Let´s see.
He has been the U 19 coach for Mainz for one year. They won the title. He was promoted to Mainz coach. They finished 9th as a promoted team. Then they equalled the Bundesliga starting record of Bayern Munich seven wins and qualified for the Europa League. All in all he managed 1.4 points her game over five year at a minor club with limited financial resources. Roughly translated that be like keeping an average of 53-54 points in the EPL with a club like Swansea over a period of five years. Not everybody can walk into a big club with unlimited resources.
Not better than Simeone.
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