Just like Liverpool heroically nearly winning things.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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Just like Liverpool heroically nearly winning things.
That one I am a bit tired of.
In all honesty, I think the oil money thing is -underplayed- by everyone, not least in the media. For all the abuse Manchester United (and Liverpool will now get!) for spending money on footballers, Man City have regularly spent more than us every season, including Grealish last summer and Haaland this one. People will point to net spend / selling players (which we're spectacularly bad at I suppose) but when you have a sugar daddy that does not give two shits about money, it can actually HELP with selling footballers simply because you -don't need to-. Like a millionaire selling a Vauxhall Astra isn't going to trade it in at a loss, because they can afford to -wait- for the best price. And even competing with that utterly ridiculous outlay (1.2billion between 2008-2020?) is something of a miracle. Fact is, we struggled to compete with what they were spending in the late 2000's and early 2010's and thus struggled to compete in the league, then nowadays they're blowing everyone elses spending out the water at really difficult times (no fans in the ground didn't mean a thing to City) and the only reason that Liverpool are competing at ALL is Klopp and some unbelievably gifted footballers.
I can see a drop off for your lot into the 80-90 point region, whereas if City continue their ridiculous spending, it's very hard to ever see them falling off. And then there's the Newcastle question. I'm glad we seemingly have lost dirty Russian money filtering footballers through to Chelsea, but oil money is now going to a new club instead, so we'll see what happens there. The reality of football is simple: the more £ you spend the more points you get. And even ourselves finished 2nd and 3rd, which is pretty much what you'd expect for spending the 2nd or 3rd most in the league, despite that basically being a massive underperforming given the history of the club.
The only things he improved at Liverpool are his teeth.
You lost out because you didn't have the better team. I thought that was fairly evident.
Also, Pep is not 'unparalleled' when it comes to league titles, seeing as another manger has managed 3 in a row twice, rather than 2 in a row twice.
This Liverpool team has peaked this season. In years to come they will be remembered as the quadruple to double domestic nearly team. They won’t hit these heights again. Mane leaving is the first big leaver and for all the Klopp transfer fawning I don’t think Nunes, at least initially, is going to be the player they think he will be. Salah will be next after a very greedy season (think he will have his nose out out by the arrival of the new boy as well).
Every team has a cycle and this one has peaked with failure. They will be fighting for 2nd place this season.
Every team has a cycle and this one has peaked with failure. They will be fighting for 2nd place this season.
This has delicious quotability allure in around summer 2024.
Site filled with them since around 2016. I direct interested parties to Mané’s signing, Salah’s signing, Van Dijk signing…Klopp signing.
Every team peaks in cycles - this one will have as well - when you have a really good team that works very well together, as this team has - it will be inevitable as you lose/change key components you will not get the same result as the team evolves - history will tell you this.
Everyone gets older and slower and as much as all the Klopp fan boys think that he can just play Top
Trumps and replace like for like it just won’t happen. I think you can see already with the form towards the end of the season the sign of things to come.
You do realise our trophy count (however much you poopoo it) went two more further out of Utd's reach this very summer?
Yeah, and Solskjær would be a league winning manager as well.
Not necessarily. If City weren't in the equation and we'd had a genuine chance of winning the league there's no guarantee we wouldn't have crumbled under the weight of pressure.
Bravo!
Same with the dippers. They might have only got 92 points because they were chasing City. If City and Pep weren't there, the dippers might go back to celebrating draws with West Brom
Nah. Loads of managers could have pipped you to that title with that city squad.
Yep, pretty sure we have finished second as many times as Klopp has versus Pep
Two each I think. Mou and Ole for us.
Liverpool fans reckon he's on less tha 100k a week bless them.
Which Liverpool fans?
The whole net spend brigade.
He'll be on 100k net, no chance a record signing accepts any less than the top earners.
Yep, same to you.
Hardly.
A lot of people care about point tallies. It's a good measure of your dominance in a league over a single season. People discredit Ole's 2nd finish by the point tally.
Ferguson's legacy can't be touched regardless, no need to be wound up by the discussion.
Except that all reports so far point to a salary between £140-160k which isn't anywhere near our top earners.
And referees also won't be that bent to give liverpool points too. It's not hard to think sponsors want league to be competitive and hence referees give as much points to liverpool to catch up with city.
Mostly people that don't understand the concepts of context and sports psychology.
Before or after tax?
Thankfully we have unbiased United fans to explain those concepts to such people.
No way he’s not getting a serious pay hike after signing for 6 years. Their fans can say whatever but in current market, I guess he’ll earn around 175K after tax and the realistic amount should be even higher than that.
What does that even mean, "in the current market", "a realistic amount"? £140-160k per week is absolutely a very realistic amount for him at Liverpool. At Utd it would've been double that, "in the current market".
Just out of interest, do you know why the referees weren't as bent in favour of Chelsea last year considering they were tipped by all the pundits to be City's major threat and essentially had more chance of ensuring a competitive league for the sponsors?
Or was it just because....because...Roman!
FFS
You are on a downward spiral my friend. Hope you enjoyed the good times, because ETH will be overhauling your shower next year
Just out of interest, do you know why the referees weren't as bent in favour of Chelsea last year considering they were tipped by all the pundits to be City's major threat and essentially had more chance of ensuring a competitive league for the sponsors?
Or was it just because....because...Roman!
FFS
You are on a downward spiral my friend. Hope you enjoyed the good times, because ETH will be overhauling your shower next year
Liverpool fan pretending as ManUtd fan
Ofcourse, every Liverpool player is paid low wage but somehow total wages is as much as ManUtd's.
Right so top players just play for Liverpool for half they can earn elsewhere right? Gotcha.
He doesn’t deserve to be a top earner. He’s had one good season. Same as Diaz. The price is ridiculous what Liverpool paid.
He will probably have a clause in his contract to review his wages.
How very dare you HerculeLiverpool fan pretending as ManUtd fan