We lost 2 points at Anfield.
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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A system that relies solely on a ball-playing centre-back to provide an attacking threat has to be flawed, no?
I get they're missing VVD - he is (or was) the best CB on the planet - but I don't see how one player picking up an injury can impact a team so much that they go from league champions to mid-table wannabees overnight.
They were showing signs of decline towards the end of last season don't forget. Not to mention losing 7-2 to Villa in VVD's last game.
Wait a min, Klopp refused post match interview?
We’re not comparable to any of those sides though. This side that won the league last season was very good but not in the top five sides during the PL era. United 07-09 & 99, Arsenal’s invincible side, Pep’s centurions, Mourinho’s 05-06 side. All of them were much better sides than ours from last season.
I think the quick turn around between seasons has hurt us as well. We’re so high energy under Klopp that it probably damaged the players not having a summer to reload. That’d explain why we were ok to start with then started having a meltdown midway through the season.
Actually thought they played well. Really need a proper centre forward to be on the end of those chances though. Firmino is a fraud
He just did an interview with Shreeves.
He's on right now on SSN. Not very entertaining. They didn't push him (surely they want good entertainment?), and he'd calmed down by then.
And then lost the league by a point the next year and would have made another CL final but for Rooney’s injury. Won the league the next year and another European final. Lost the league on goal difference the next year: won the league the year after that!
You scumbag, kicking a man whilst he’s down.I know, and I don’t care. I’m using your successes of last season against you to compound your failures of this year.
He's talking so much, 90 percent of it is complete rubbish.
I'm enjoying their demise and certainly don't want to defend them, but it's three players really, as two key centre mids to how they play have had to go into defence.
They're not quick, or anywhere near as good, so the lincense of the full backs, who can usually storm forward has gone massively down.
And because of this, the two wide forwards have way less room as there's fewer to pick up, or chances from frequent balls coming in.
It's a whole house of cards.
Got it. Thanks.
Pogba missed a sitter.
Remember you had the highest points of all of these teams, so relative against the other teams in the league you were better than all of those teams versus others.
So that makes the drop off even bigger.
But the full on effort version and no rabid Anfield crowd has certainly impacted in a huge way. As well as having to put in 20 centre back combos, and putting out some absolute chumps at centre back.
Insane to think we were the last team not to win there, 5 games back!!
He looks like he's going to need another sabbatical soon.
I should say the gradual dip off in quality of the team in the years after.
Ronaldo out, Valencia/Owen in etc.
Just about holding it in place through Fergie's genius.
If Henderson is their best CM player, why play him at the back. Surely they have other options to cover the CB positions and play Henderson back in midfield.
(The two young lads and the two new signings. )
The defenders are gubbins, and a 25 year old from the championship is a plain pointless move.
Defo need to re evalute the notion of "sitter"
It's arguable that team really only fell apart after Fergie left and most of the team was nearing retirement age.
Oh fair enough.
Everton can be clinical though can't they? Against us, 3 chances, 3 goals. That's impressive
Think he will wait until the summer and see how much money he is given for transfers.
Replacing the likes of Salah and Mane with players of equal ability is a near-impossibility for Liverpool. They're both £100 million players in today's market, probably above that figure if we're honest. Liverpool don't have the funds at hand to buy those sort of players.
Didn't Klopp kick up a stink earlier in the season because the owners refused to provide him with enough funds to strengthen the team last summer?
It’s called Complacency.......
when so much smoke is blown up your arse by ex player tv pundits and general fanboys you start to believe your own hype - chat like dominating the league for years blah de blah is just fantasy......
reality is you bust your arse to get to the top and then struggle to keep the same level. Injuries haven’t helped but unlike Fergie used to do Klopp needed to shake that team up a bit....
think now a few of those players (like Salah) will be thinking of a change - theyve won the PL and CL so maybe time to move on....and thus the cycle ends......
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But we signed them from clubs when they weren’t world class players. Apart from Alisson and Thiago, Klopp has lifted his best signings from a mid-tier level to ridiculous heights. He could easily sell Salah and sign a £30 million replacement who turns out to be excellent. There’s always a risk there but Klopp’s record with player development speaks for itself.
He did get backed in the summer. He signed three players and two for big money. Kota was working out really well prior to injury. I think he’s due back soon which might help. Firmino is rubbish in front of goal.
If there is one big weakness with Klopp as a manager imo, it's that he too much depends on the same players again and again. If he could learn to use more than just 14-15 players and give his team the needed rest he might be able to avoid the performance drop after a couple of years.
He was a couple of yards out from goal.
I think you will, still a lot of games and football to play yet. If Henderson injury is bad it will be a tough ask though.
They've had injuries obviously but they also made the decision to let Lovren go and are purposely playing midfielders at CB rather than playing the younger back ups. They maybe got complacent after having such a good run of no injuries to key players.
Their luck in close games has run also ran out. Last season Richarlison misses that early chance and they scrape a win instead without being convincing.
Their luck in close games has run also ran out. Last season Richarlison misses that early chance and they scrape a win instead without being convincing.
When the season ends this won’t be even be mentioned due to the other dropped points
We won the league and were champions league finalist's the following season
Explained it a few posts after.
It doesn't make it a sitter and it defo wasn't a couple of yards. Bruno's chance was closer to a sitter
Our next home game in the league is Chelsea. Ffs
And weren't we like one bad refereeing decision away from retaining the title too? I remember Chelsea beating us 1-0 via a dubious Drogba goal. I dont think finishing second and reaching the CL quarterfinals is falling of a cliff, we were still competitive even if we weren't the dominant force we were in 06-08.We won the league and were champions league finalist's the following season
