Jurgen Klopp in the Sky interview post-Everton game reminded me of Michael Douglas in 'Falling Down.' This guy is going to go postal one of these days 
Jurgen Klopp Sack Watch
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Wrong again. We rested Pogba today while losing. And Bailly and Fellaini too. Three of our best players this season as it turns out.
Spot on in fairness. You can't blame a bad player for being picked
Lovren did put his hand on the back and made a little push which makes it a very easy call for the ref to make. If Lovren had played football instead of using his hands (literally the only thing he can't use as a footballer) Liverpool would have comfortably won it. They also would have done so if Mané had squared a pass to the side in the first half. Everton had absolutely nothing and I understand that Klopp is fuming but he's venting in the wrong directions because yet again they drop points because of sloppiness at the back.
Why is he so gutted about the result? I thought he'd have the players doing a lap of honour and mugging to the fans, like when they drew at home in the past.
Fecker went and got his teeth whitened as well.
The Rodgers approach.
Klopp clearly made an error when he chose to take lessons on Public Relations from Rafa Benitez.
Softest fecking pen ever. However, Everton are even shitter than I initially thought. Good luck to them, because they'll need it.
I loled.
OK, it was a spawny draw but seeing Klopp throwing a hissy fit over it is priceless. Like they wouldn't have got a penalty if, say, Martina had done the same thing with Salah.
OK, it was a spawny draw but seeing Klopp throwing a hissy fit over it is priceless. Like they wouldn't have got a penalty if, say, Martina had done the same thing with Salah.
It must be nice for our Liverpool supporting members to say what they think about their team and Klopp.
You're welcome, try that on RAWK and see how far you get.
You're welcome, try that on RAWK and see how far you get.
What exactly is a soft penalty?
Either it's a penalty, or it isn't, and Lovren ran straight into the back of Calvert-Lewin with both hands on him, causing him to lose balance and subsequently lose a chance at shooting. It was a penalty, and a pretty clear one. All Lovren had to do was show him out wide, which is the direction the ball was going, but he fecked it.
First pen at Anfield since it was our ground probably and this is how you all act. No one can play the victim card like you lot.
If he’s got half a brain he’ll avoid fighting with the press. They’re behind him for the most part and they’re like a pack of wolves. Start taking pot shots at one or two and the rest will sharpen their knives and life gets a lot more difficult.
Thought it was a penalty myself. Lovren was an idiot giving the ref a decision to make.
First pen at Anfield since it was our ground probably and this is how you all act. No one can play the victim card like you lot.
Mane’s selfishness before HT pissed me off more though.
Opinion seems split 50/50 - which doesn't mean a lot, but it does tell you it wasn't completely outrageous for the ref to give it.
And Lovren - being again.
And Lovren - being
again.Jurgen Klopp in the Sky interview post-Everton game reminded me of Michael Douglas in 'Falling Down.' This guy is going to go postal one of these days
Knew there must have been a reason why I watched that film 20 odd years ago!Well retrieved sir
The crazy thing is that apart from that he had a good game, but that's Lovren.Opinion seems split 50/50 - which doesn't mean a lot, but it does tell you it wasn't completely outrageous for the ref to give it.
And Lovren - being
I said before - some of it looks like over-confidence, trying to do too much. Bit the same today, he just needs to sit off & watch what happens, there's no support for the attacker. What not to do... look like you might be pushing the forward you've got too close to.
True and a level headed comment but if a manager rests key players and doesn't win then he's fecked up. Saying that even if Coutinio and Firminio had played the result may have been the same. I had a feeling it would be one of those games.
Been telling people he's a massive wanker for a long time to very little if no avail.
Surely this has to be the tipping point?
He's a proper twat.
Surely this has to be the tipping point?
He's a proper twat.
Liverpool had enough in the tank to be honest. Had mane passed it on it would have been easily game over for everton.
When you loose ( draw against everton is just like a loss) you try to find reason. Klopp last year went all out attack and missed the bus due to injuries, this time he is playing it safe.
The only positive we can take from that game is it 're affirms the belief that we are capable of scoring 1-2 goals even on a bad day. It's just never going to be enough though with what happens at the other end.
VVD needs to be agreed and through the door 1st Jan.
Everything would have been better if he had just accepted the job here.
You had 1 goal and 3 shots on target. At home against Everton. Where's the double decker?
This is such a bizarre post. I can’t get my head around it. There’s trying to stay positive, then there’s this.
It´s like Kasey Keller said: If that´s a penalty, every corner is a penalty. More contact happens on every corner. And if that contact is a penalty you could argue that Salah´s contact before he scored was a foul, too.
It doesn't help that every referee has a different view point on it. The rules make it a tough one, you either enforce it stringently and you're handing out multiple pens a game, or you let it slide and allow wrestling matches in the box.
Its soft as shit and the only answer anyone ever has is to perpetuate the myth that they all even out over the season. Some form of DRS is needed, i don't really care anymore if people feel it takes away from the spectacle, ensuring a fair game should be the number one priority.
Have you noticed how football mangers spit their dummies out & scream 'shocking decision' when a dodgy penalty is given against their side. But when a similar decision goes their way they always seem to think it was a nailed on penalty.
It's a clear pen. Lovren is using his hands to gain an advantage.
How can you let that go?
How can you let that go?
I wondered about the Salah goal too - there's a similarity of attacking players getting a bit of leeway because they have possession of the ball, maybe.
The attacker ran into Lovren, not the other way round. He then milked the collision for all its worth. All Lovren did was put his hands on him and he went down. It's not a penalty. Or it shouldn't be. Everyone saying it is just contributes to the diving mentality we have in the game.
Thing is DRS would only enforce it was a definite penalty. As us viewers, commentators, journalists have all but confirmed. With DRS/VAR refs will be reffing to get the video evidence correct than independently look at the incident. Not that I'm against VAR in general.
This! I’d love it if the press turn on their “golden boy” and then we’d witness the full-blown meltdown that’s been slowly coming! Popcorn for everyone when this happens!!
From the ref's angle it looks like Lovren pushes him over. It's 50/50, complete opinion, don't think you can say either way with any certainty.
I thought the penalty was soft. Lovren was an idiot, because as soon as you put two hands on a players back, they are going over. But I don't think the two hands on his back were actually enough to send him over. The replay looked like there was a delay between the contact and Calvert-Lewin then deciding to punish Lovren for it by going over. That delay is the biggest sign of simulation, but hands on the back resulting in a foul happens all over the pitch and the referees give it 9 times out of 10.
I don't think it is a foul, but in the current state of refereeing, it's always going to be given. It's one of the most frustrating fouls in football, but players really need to curb their instincts and stop putting their hands on a player's back. Lovren was punished for his naivety.
I don't think it is a foul, but in the current state of refereeing, it's always going to be given. It's one of the most frustrating fouls in football, but players really need to curb their instincts and stop putting their hands on a player's back. Lovren was punished for his naivety.
Salah pushed his man over in the lead up to his goal. A clear push. No foul and a goal results. Lovely goal - well taken but If I was the ref I would have blown for a free out. There was a push on the Everton player in the box - a soft one - but a push so it was a peno. I would have given it. But the ref wasnt consistent - both were fouls. Liverpool fans are not mentioning Salahs push.
Klopp is furious because Liverpool didnt kill the match. They should have been out of sight.
Klopp is furious because Liverpool didnt kill the match. They should have been out of sight.
It's a penalty and video assistance won't change that. From the referees viewpoint Lovren goes across, makes contact with his arms raised as if to push, and the player goes down. There wasn't much contact but there was some and running at full sprint it doesn't take much to knock someone over. VAR would only change a decision if it's a clear mistake, this one wasnt.
It's also a bit rich for Liverpool to complain with all the dodgy calls they've had at Anfield!
It's also a bit rich for Liverpool to complain with all the dodgy calls they've had at Anfield!
Wonder what side Klopp will put out for the FA Cup tie against Everton ? Hope he takes it a bit more seriously than he did last year. Losing at home to inferior opposition is unacceptable. Losing at home to Everton by not fielding your strongest team would be unforgivable.