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Jude Bellingham | Signed for Madrid
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Any other club with more liquidity than Madrid. The list is short.
How many levers does Madrid have to pull. Money doesn't seem to mean much to anyone other than Leicester
The word is that City's personal offer to Bellingham was higher than Madrid's, and if he has chosen Madrid he seems more or less on track.
It could be that Borussia ask for a crazy amount of unattainable money, everything comes to a standstill and he ends up changing his mind but it seems unlikely. I guess Madrid will be willing to go to 100 million euros + targets.
According to Gentleman Jim, Real Madrid offered an eye watering sum that City didn't want to pay, despite City previously having had a deal all wrapped up for him. So I don't think there will be a bidding war.
I don't think clubs would have approached Bellingham if they thought Dortmund would price them out of the move. They are a selling club and €110m+ bonuses I can see being the final figure.
When we did the same thing for Sanchez, all the press went with "Money or Pep?" angle. Yet this time because it's Real Madrid, you only hear about how they are so high-leveled at attracting players. Brilliant.
I'm not as massive a fan of Bellingham (certainly not 150mil of a fan), but he was very good against City two seasons ago in the CL and was great against Sevilla as well. Had a goal very unfairly ruled out against City that could have had an impact on the tie.
He wouldn't be as scrutinized there as the case if he came to the Premier League and have the media slaughter him for any miss-placed passes. The media has made our league the most toxic in Europe for young players, I'm afraid.
Oh well…. cheeky wee bid in to Real for Valverde or Camavinga. Especially if Mbappe is also on the shopping list it’s annoying how well run they are at times. But I suppose it’s easy to do from a position of strength with a midfield of Modric, Kroos and Cas and slowly phasing them out and having the replacements lined up. What was that 2 seasons of recruitment and they have or will have 3 of the “next big thing” lined up waiting to take over.
it’s annoying how well run they are at times. But I suppose it’s easy to do from a position of strength with a midfield of Modric, Kroos and Cas and slowly phasing them out and having the replacements lined up. What was that 2 seasons of recruitment and they have or will have 3 of the “next big thing” lined up waiting to take over.It’s the second, damage control tweet that does it for meRight before the Madrid - City return leg. Nice!
Double down
City now hates life, because keep in mind that he's said yes!
Say yes to football heritage, but no to plastic
City now hates life, because keep in mind that he's said yes!
Say yes to football heritage, but no to plastic
Can we get Bellingham hates plastic in the thread title please?
Is it hazard?
Not feeling this signing at all. Kinda hoping it doesn’t go through. We need to strengthen other areas.
Basically keeps your midfield sorted for the next 10 years at least, can still upgrade RB/LB/ST, you'll most likely make half of it back with player sales I imagine as well.
If he doesn’t flop and shows decent performances half of the Premier League will be ready to buy him from you. Seems a win win situation for you guys.
After Casemiro, Modric and Kroos...Real Madrid's midfield options are Valverde, Tchouameni, Camavinga, and Bellingham.
After Casemiro, Modric and Kroos...Real Madrid's midfield options are Valverde, Tchouameni, Camavinga, and Bellingham.
Camavinga is great though tbf
sounds like Fran Garcia in for left back, who’s going to be the Benzema backup?
Maybe he doesn’t want to go to ‘other clubs’?
Maybe he likes playing golf and knows that he can fall back on that if it doesn't pan out there
What a career trajectory.
Don't know if he's good enough, but he's been primed for the very top since his early teens and it's rare to see that followed through so succinctly.
Don't know if he's good enough, but he's been primed for the very top since his early teens and it's rare to see that followed through so succinctly.
And he may actually live up to it like Rooney.
Someone explain to me how or why he is going to earn more than Benzema or Vinicius, Modric or Kroos. He's 19 years old, Real Madrid want him and he wants Real Madrid. What is the point of paying him a ridiculous amount before he's even proved himself there?
He would be lucky to have the Career Rooney had , his rise and path has been well scripted till now , but once at Madrid he is hiding to nothing .
No way he goes for Antony money. Given all the hype around him. I refuse to believe he'll go for that price.
He isn't it's nonsense no way he would be second highest earner at Madrid in his first Contract .
There are probably gonna be a bunch of add-ons that'll take it somewhere north of 110-120m where Dortmund can be comfortable with the final fee.
That depends on Jude.
Being realistic, there's no midfielder in the world, young or not, that is Modric type, nobody will give the team what Modric gives. And the only 'similar' player, while not being able to lace Modric's boots, plays in Barcelona. So, they need a different more realistic approach.
Sorry for quoting my February self, but on the notion that Cama/Tchoua/Fede are the same type - spoiler, they're not - and that he can't be compared to Modric - spoiler, he's basically a 96/97 left compared to Modric 100 right - I'll do it anyway.
And what did we see since then? Jude's been introduced to playing RM in a 4-3-3, AM in a 4-2-3-1 and even on the wing for some minutes, with mild success initially, granted, but came strong and returned to scoring lately. Steep learning curve, strong will, stamina, you name it. Dominator in the making, top5leagues player closest to Modric this season.
Hope this helps you guys in your assessments!
1. CIES lists him as attacking midfielder player type.
Quote: Jude Bellingham (Borussia Dortmund) tops the ranking for attacking midfielders, i.e. midfielders mainly active in two attacking areas.
Source: here
Btw, they estimate him at a whopping € 211M.
User opinion driven estimate is at "up to € 250M" even, see here.
This is Jude's profile: here
As can be seen, he does overwhelmingly good in the attacking departments.
Perhaps intesting for you, he mostly featured as left CM/ LAM over the span of their data collection, which further isolates him from anyone close to his normed ranking points. (It is also why the notion of "stacked midfield at Real Madrid" is rather useless, as his profile is not currently present there.)
2. CIES also lists him as shot-oriented attacking midfielder in their "global rankings of take-on players", i.e. "players who have performed best in the area of take on over the past year", where he's 12th, in midth of world class wingers and forwards. Source: here.
Him and Foden top the list for midfielders; but, again, "collected over a year". With him on an upwards and Foden on a downwards trajectory, you get the point: he's a threat.
Admittedly, Dortmund stress this out, as he's their target man for several high xG book plays, plus a decent chunk of corners. Yet, subtracting that still leaves you with a high impact attacking midfielder - at 19 which is no age.
À propos high impact: This is CIES+Wyscout's normed impact ranking. Two DMs and four CMs ahead of him, old and/or different players types. A 96 compared to Modric's 100 sheds light on how immensely good he is.
TLDR:
Data collected, compared and normed suggest he's among the global elite of attacking midfielders.
His offensive impact as abstracted by CIES metric suggests that as well.
Combined with his age/ expected number of years ahead of him, as well as his uniqueness of left-side-tendencies among the few peers there are, the profile you get makes him the most sought-after player, and rightly so.
And what did we see since then? Jude's been introduced to playing RM in a 4-3-3, AM in a 4-2-3-1 and even on the wing for some minutes, with mild success initially, granted, but came strong and returned to scoring lately. Steep learning curve, strong will, stamina, you name it. Dominator in the making, top5leagues player closest to Modric this season.
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