England is great a cruxifying their players, even more so if they play for rival clubs. He made the right choice.
Jude Bellingham | Real Madrid player
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Hurts me everytime I see this guy play, or hear him mentioned.
The fact we showed him around Carrington and just didn't quite get it over the line for 25m
When will the pain stop?
The fact we showed him around Carrington and just didn't quite get it over the line for 25m
When will the pain stop?
Only City can compete with Real Madrid for a player in terms of the sport project for the top players. Just look at the teammates would you rather play in a midfield with Camavinga, Valverde, Tchouameni, or Bruno, Eriksen, Mount and Casemiro. It is an easy choice.
Matthaus is more of a CDM though, much like someone like Zidane or Zico or even Kaka played CAM, I was going for more of the pure CM's.
Different thing. The Real Madrid fans are the most demanding in the world, which is a good thing for anyone who wants to be the best. That is entirely different from the media in the UK building someone up and then trying to destroy them with lurid stories about personal shite.
Matthaus was a b2b midfielder until he was in his mid 30s
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EXACTLY
The media in tbe UK really is terrible and now players have to deal with all the abuse on social media as well. I'm really surprised a lot more British footballers don't move abroad. I guess that unless they're pretty mature at a young age they probably don't see the advantages until they're locked into a long term contract with a PL club and are then priced out of moves.
Yes, it's not an easy thing to do so I think most prefer to stay at home because they think it is the easier option. And of course England has a strong league and big clubs so people might not see the point. But I think there are many positives to making a move like that, not least escaping the media that seems obsessed with carrying out 'tall poppy' justice.
Maybe because other countries media is also terrible? You don’t have a monopoly on shitty media in the UK.
United had Cantona & Fergie show him around the training ground. Can you get better than that? The reason he never went to United was, he was told he could ‘make the first team in a couple of years’. He was already ready United could’ve had him for £24 million!
I think he also went to Tottenham to view once Birmingham told him he was being sold.
And the crazy thing is, he cried when he was told he had to leave to straighten out the mismanagement. He did not want to go! He is a massive Birmingham City fan, who still attends the games when he can. At that point, he had already achieved his dreams.
I have been his biggest fan boy on here, but we are witnessing greatness. Ronaldo had his haters as a teen.
Which goes to show that it's pretty useless having old legends showing players around that you are interested in.
Get the actual manager and let him tell the player "I want to sign you, I want to do this and that with you on the pitch, next season you'll start your first CL match if you decide to come to us". Which was essentially Dortmund's offer to him (and also wages according to that intented role, which was more than United was willing to offer.
England is an absolute shithole at the moment. A place of social unrest, political tension and a small minded view on almost everything.
Nobody is going to choose any club on this piss pot little confused island, over Real Madrid.
Don't worry. I'm sure none of the Scouts are from Scotland...
And before anyone says "Pidgy, you've made fun of Scotland on several occasions" It's always come from a place of love and affection for my country, or as I like to call it, the biggest shitstain on Earth.
Come on. Spain is hardly a bastion of progressiveness based on the post-Women's World Cup debacle and the recent treatment of Vinicius Junior.
I would have a hard time to believe he will develop better than what he currently is now, if he decide to join Man Utd back then. He made the right move. He was available in the market back in the summer as well and in the end Real Madrid won his signature. So it is not other clubs didn't have the chance to sign him.
Generational talent.
I’m sure he’d still be playing for Birmingham now if he could. God bless him.
In terms of sports project of course you’d go to the team that just won the treble and have one of the best managers of all time.
United remain far ahead of the likes of Arsenal in terms of pull mind.
There are many factors, but as always other than the sport project, the financial package is a major factor.
XD
It's Real Madrid ffs.
How exactly is going to a team that has been winning the most, has the best players, manager and most money a "project"?
Never understood this thinking.
He reminds me of Mbappe in that I couldn’t quite understand the fuss about him but it’s becoming obvious that what sets him apart is his intelligence, reading of situations and overall mentality.
Still I think people need to calm down a tad. Yes he’s excellent but the hype has gone into overdrive.
Still I think people need to calm down a tad. Yes he’s excellent but the hype has gone into overdrive.
Feels like of all big-money moves this Summer he is the most successful - tearing it up at Madrid. That makes a good story
It’s been a while that I’ve been this impressed with a player I must admit. For all the talk of different types of midfielders and where he ranks most of its missing the point for me.
For one the variety of players makes it hard to compare, not necessarily attributes but because they have/ had different tactical roles, especially in highly organised teams.
What I like the most about him is that he takes a game by the scruff of the neck. You can see the confidence in him, almost arrogant. I can see how this might rub some the wrong way, especially teammates, but when your playing well, who can moan?
He almost has a free role in games now where he can impose himself on teams. I’m for not fixing him higher up the pitch. Seeing him stride forward into space is when he is at his best for me, and we will see him dominate games in the future for sure. Quality.
For one the variety of players makes it hard to compare, not necessarily attributes but because they have/ had different tactical roles, especially in highly organised teams.
What I like the most about him is that he takes a game by the scruff of the neck. You can see the confidence in him, almost arrogant. I can see how this might rub some the wrong way, especially teammates, but when your playing well, who can moan?
He almost has a free role in games now where he can impose himself on teams. I’m for not fixing him higher up the pitch. Seeing him stride forward into space is when he is at his best for me, and we will see him dominate games in the future for sure. Quality.
It's fecking scandalous how turtle-slow recent Utd has been on the uptake of obviously very good young talents. Maddisson IMO was worth a punt years ago. Instead, wait till they cost 100 mill and want to start a clothes line.
Was the World Cup final that did it for me regarding Mbappe. Took the game by the scruff.
There's always so much weird projection when it comes to stuff like this. He'll be living in a compound, hanging our with other hyper rich people, sending his kids to private school and flying on private jets. He'll have a cook, home gym, personal trainer, yada yada, wherever he goes.
As if someone with as much money as Bellingham will be affected by any of the issues that makes you or I feel certain ways about England. I'm sure he's not bothered by Spain's 27% youth unemployment either, nor their refusal to countenance a legal referendum on Catalan independence or bullfighting.
Read Madrid as a club is a clear choice over any English club.
Yeah I mean you can live a pretty good life in the UK if you're on anything north of 60k. Or at least you'd be shielded from a lot of shittiness for the most part. 300k a week is incomparable. It's a bubble world at that point.
@UnrelatedPsuedo isn't necessarily wrong though for saying that with respect to the rest of us plebs.
Wait until next year. After everything that he has done in the game, the underestimating of Mbappe continues...
Yes. How about be shown round by a great current manager and a wise coach , rather than the manager who retired 7 years previous and a cult hero?
How exactly is Mbappe underestimated? Most people think of him as the best player in the world. In this time, it is almost Impossible to be underrated if you score lots of goals
There's no way he ends up being anywhere near as good had he ended up here
Well he chose the perfect path for his career..
Dortmund and then Real ..
If we were a successful team he would have joined us..
Wait! You didn't rate Mbappe till this recently. Did you miss the previous world cup?
I must admit, I underestimated Bellingham, thought of him as someone good but nothing special. He has closed my mouth with his amazing performances, truly a generational talent. When Madrid get either Majin Boo or Donatello, they will be scary and go on a CL winning spree.
Immobile?
Sorry that was unclear. I was referring to the underestimating of Mbappe's capacity for moaning, not his skill as a player.
I'm getting older and following wider football less, who are these 2 players?
