redshaw
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Deserves a lot of credit. He had some bad games last season, looked very rusty, gave the ball away a lot but looks in control so far this season. Really pleased for the old guy.
This.. he was just unplayable tonight.Excellent performance, he can't play week in and week out any more but we need him to be able to come in and produce those kind of performances to give us quality squad depth.
Seems like Ole is the only one that has understood Mata as a player. Moyes was rigid. LvG didn't allow creative freedom. Mourinho set player into a specific system so under all three Mata was a limited player often chucked on the right where his strengths wasn't utilized. He's got slightly better players around him now.
I don't think there was much of a difference between his seasons. All the managers were playing him in a tactical position they had lined up because there was no one else, not because he fit. Whether Mata was slightly better in one season or the other is irrelevant to the point. He's not been played to his strength whilst here and that's reflective in his overall contribution.I don't like LVG, but this is simply not true. Mata's best season for us was probably LVG's first one.
Sorry mate, but that's blatant revisionism. Ole barely uses Mata. Both LVG and Mourinho in particular got a lot more out of him. A lot of the best things we got from Mata were during the period between LVG's last season and Mourinho's first.Seems like Ole is the only one that has understood Mata as a player. Moyes was rigid. LvG didn't allow creative freedom. Mourinho set player into a specific system so under all three Mata was a limited player often chucked on the right where his strengths wasn't utilized. He's got slightly better players around him now.
I don't think there was much of a difference between his seasons. All the managers were playing him in a tactical position they had lined up because there was no one else, not because he fit. Whether Mata was slightly better in one season or the other is irrelevant to the point. He's not been played to his strength whilst here and that's reflective in his overall contribution.
Ole uses Mata less because he's 32. Other managers had him in his prime and didn't get much out of their team, including Mata.Sorry mate, but that's blatant revisionism. Ole barely uses Mata. Both LVG and Mourinho in particular got a lot more out of him. A lot of the best things we got from Mata were during the period between LVG's last season and Mourinho's first.
I wish we signed a 27 year-old Mata now then what he is now. Touch of class at times and was crucial today
we signed a 25 year old Mata and generally wasted his best years.
We didn't do that. He himself couldn't sustain the initial success he had with Chelsea under different circumstances due to his physical weaknesses in a physical league. That's pretty much it. Not everybody needs to have an excuse, and Mata has been disappointing overall. The very low expectations we have of him at this moment is the exact reason he gets the praise that he does right now. He played very well, I'm so happy for him.we signed a 25 year old Mata and generally wasted his best years.
Was he 25? feck I thought he was older then that considering he was a superstar for Chelsea before Mourinho came in
Spot onWhen he has the players who are on the same wavelength as him, he's brilliant.
Never a RW and should have always been played central for us whilst he's been at United.
Him, Bruno and VDB are the three players in this squad who truly understand the concept of passing and finding space immediately to give player they passed to options and occupy defenders. Three very different skillsets and hard to fit all of them into a lineup since they take up some of the same spaces, but I enjoy them playing football together.
He couldn't sustain the success he had in the Premier eague because of his physical weakness in the Premier League?We didn't do that. He himself couldn't sustain the initial success he had with Chelsea under different circumstances due to his physical weaknesses in a physical league. That's pretty much it. Not everybody needs to have an excuse, and Mata has been disappointing overall. The very low expectations we have of him at this moment is the exact reason he gets the praise that he does right now. He played very well, I'm so happy for him.