Wasn't good today, but it's difficult with such poor players around.
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Always someone else's fault. First we needed a pacey striker who runs in behind. We have Martial now, who actually played well. Mata was poor. Shame because he's been good recently.
Yeah I thought he was a bit crap along with everyone else. No speed to his play and his passing was way sloppier then it usually is.
Martial was tightly marked for a reason. Nobody offered any movement whatsoever.
Striker in being marked shocker. Mata was poor, stop blaming others for him being poor.
It's funny to say that after Mata led our comeback against Wolfsburg just during this week...
Explain to me what he was supposed to do when nobody would make runs or nobody would give him the ball back when he made runs?
Exactly. And he's not a winger - he should be played where he's most effective.
I'd drop Rooney tbh, and play Mata behind Martial.
And then who out wide? Depay hasn't been up to much as it is. Leaves us with Young and Valencia, who I think are average. Unless we bring out one of the younger lads in.
Well if Mata is so awful, he obviously shouldn't be wide...
Ashley Young on the left and try Depay on the right? I wouldn't say Young is average - he was very good last season, and hasn't had much chance to shine this year, but he hasn't done badly. Apart from today which is hardly his fault.
I've been happy with Mata wide. If we are to drop Rooney, I'd prefer us to move to a 433 have Mata on the right and plus Depay/Young on the left.
On Young, I thought he was very good for his standards, but still average from the perspective of where we should be aiming.
i think Mata can do a job wide, but would be more effective behind the striker.
Yes. I think he'd shine.
He isn't going to win a game for you on his own, he's a multiplyer much like Fabregas who is getting similar flack at the moment, when the team is playing well and they'll enhance everything going forward, if the team isn't proving good movement and moving the ball quickly they'll be ineffective. We hit a purple patch and he'll bag goals and assists.
It's a team game. He can't do it alone.
In my humble, we wouldn't be as high as we are if it wasn't for Mata. Or at least, he's one of the few who have produced so far this season.
We didn't play bad against Wolfsburg, the team was on top. Different scenario to yesterday
Once again Mata getting a free ride on here. He did nothing just like the rest, yet others are to blame for it? You could say that about every player then. However, he's not helped by being put on the wing.
I recently saw a packet of cigarettes which said "Fumer Mata" on the side. Which I'm going to hazard a guess stands for "Smoking Kills"
With that in mind, do with have a midfield maestro playing for us who's name translates roughly to John Kills
If so, that's a damn cool name.
With that in mind, do with have a midfield maestro playing for us who's name translates roughly to John Kills
If so, that's a damn cool name.
At least you've got your priotities straight. Being a football fan is all about equal opportunity player bashing.
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I've no idea what you're on about? It's quite clear he gets a free ride here. What other players get the excuses of it's the other players to blame as to why he was poor? I'm not a Mata fan really, I'll admit, but I'm not biased. When Mata plays well then I'll praise him. His assist against Wolfsburg for example was majestic. As I've also said before he isn't helped by being put out on the wing.
Edit: I should add that I wouldn't of posted a third message regarding his performance on Sunday if there hadn't of been the excuse of blaming others. My intention wasn't to freely bash him.
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http://www.skysports.com/football/n...iteds-juan-mata-loving-life-in-laid-back-city
Isnt he just lovely.
Isnt he Juan derful
Tell Dave that, mate. Hugs.
Feels like he only just arrived. I just melted.
He got the armband for Spain tonight when he replaced Fabregas, what was interesting though was that instead of replacing Fabregas as the AM, Isco moved into that role and Mata went out to the RWF position where he plays for us.
I think despite the many calls for him to play centrally his managers think he benefits from having more time on the ball with the floating wide role as he's not storage enough to protect the ball under pressure centrally.
I think despite the many calls for him to play centrally his managers think he benefits from having more time on the ball with the floating wide role as he's not storage enough to protect the ball under pressure centrally.
I love him.
mata himself said he doesn't mind where he is played as long as he is given the freedomto run channels.
That's why I think mata won't play no.10, LVG's no.10 has a fair amount of positional responsibility and mata loves to rome, that is when he is at his bets.
^Although I don't know where Mata plays when he does for Spain, I'm not sure about that argument of Del Bosque playing him there because that's where he prefers. I believe it's a simple thing of just having seen him play there for Utd and think 'that's fine, I'll play him there too'. I know it sounds silly but we've seen many cases of it before. Gerrard and Carragher being played all over midfield and in defence by Liverpool and subsequent England managers doing the same. Rooney being played in midfield by Fergie (despite being largely average) and then other managers think he can do the same job. Welbeck on the left wing for us, same for England etc etc. Some player hits form for a couple of weeks and suddenly they're in the national squad.
Everton 0:3 Man Utd
Decent half for him but far from perfect. He was good in possession and attack and pretty bad in defense. Nothing new. Good that he's getting a bit of a break. Been the first name on the team sheet for a while now.
Injured? 
Wasnt really playing well, not surprised he took him off.
Hope LVG wanted to give him a rest and he's not injured.
He wasn't that bad for him to be taken off at HT! Hope it's a tactical decision and not an injury.
Thought he was good while he was on the pitch. His passing, movement and awareness are top class. Seems to be a marmite player, but I love him.
I thought he had a good half too personally. Hopefully not injured.
I was surprised to see him come off at half time, he hadn't been great but not bad either.
Apparently van gaal said it was just tactical. Thought he was playing well, could just be to keep him fit for the next 2 and give us added pace as we played on the break in that second half which makes sense.
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