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2015-16 Performances


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5.7 Season Average Rating
Appearances
54
Goals
11
Assists
11
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7
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He is anoynoymous because our two cdms have been too damn slow to get him the ball. When he makes himself available we take too many touches to get it out.
 
I honestly don't know what the point of Mata as a winger is,very poor winger,no pace and can't go past a player,he always comes back.not impressed at all when we've got Young and Anders on the bench.
 
Mata isn't a world class playmaker. Your post sums up a lot of poster to me. You just don't get it. Mata doesn't waste possession. Depay and Young both do. Why should Mata cross the ball when there's so little chance of scoring? You just lose the ball. Look at our goal. It was a goal that came after "playing it safe and recycling possession". Southampton are playing with two strong DMC's and two big CB's and we've got Rooney and Martial in there. High balls are not going to do us any good unless their aimed specifically like when Mata made that pass to Depay that was headed over. Southampton are an extremely cautious and defensive side that are very quick on the counter. You can't be wasteful against them.

Get the ball wide get to the byeline and whip balls in or our forwards will stop getting into positions. The only time Mata gets to the byeline is at corner kicks. He's not a winger but it's where he's playing and he is donkey shit at playing here. He needs to fight for the ten jersey or get benched. I'd rather have Young or Valencia play this position.
 
Mata isn't a world class playmaker. Your post sums up a lot of poster to me. You just don't get it. Mata doesn't waste possession. Depay and Young both do. Why should Mata cross the ball when there's so little chance of scoring? You just lose the ball. Look at our goal. It was a goal that came after "playing it safe and recycling possession". Southampton are playing with two strong DMC's and two big CB's and we've got Rooney and Martial in there. High balls are not going to do us any good unless their aimed specifically like when Mata made that pass to Depay that was headed over. Southampton are an extremely cautious and defensive side that are very quick on the counter. You can't be wasteful against them.

We need to have some players who aren't afraid to take risks to create something. Cleverley could recycle possession and play it safe - it wasn't enough. Our goal came from an incorrect offside call against Mata, and a great bit of play by Martial. For a lot of the half we looked dour.

I never mentioned crossing the ball either, but Mata should have the tools and capability to create chances for us in the final third.

Anyway I don't want to come across like I am blaming Mata for the first half - I think the far bigger problem was our CM combination. Having two specialist holding midfielders doesn't really work for us I feel, we need to have one of Schweinsteiger, Herrera or Fellaini in there to offer something going forwards.
 
I honestly don't know what the point of Mata as a winger is,very poor winger,no pace and can't go past a player,he always comes back.not impressed at all when we've got Young and Anders on the bench.

Get the ball wide get to the byeline and whip balls in or our forwards will stop getting into positions. The only time Mata gets to the byeline is at corner kicks. He's not a winger but it's where he's playing and he is donkey shit at playing here. He needs to fight for the ten jersey or get benched. I'd rather have Young or Valencia play this position.


HE'S NOT PLAYING AS A WINGER FFS HOW MANY TIMES DO WE HAVE TO DISCUSS THIS IN THIS THREAD.
 
He is anoynoymous because our two cdms have been too damn slow to get him the ball. When he makes himself available we take too many touches to get it out.

What a lot of rubbish he's had many an opportunity not just this game and he cuts back and plays safe square or backward passes. He passes the ball square and sprints away pretending to look for a return! He is going through the motions get him into ten or get him off.
 
I feel like we should be playing through Mata more than we play through Memphis...better things are happening when he gets the ball.
 
I feel like we should be playing through Mata more than we play through Memphis...better things are happening when he gets the ball.
They're only happening when he drifts all the way to the completely opposite side as nobody is meant to be marking him there.
 
What a lot of rubbish he's had many an opportunity not just this game and he cuts back and plays safe square or backward passes. He passes the ball square and sprints away pretending to look for a return! He is going through the motions get him into ten or get him off.
"Pretends to look for a return"
how the hell is that even possible?
 
He does, and it isnt even close. He passes defenders so much more, and that creates loads of space. In stead od the obligatory sideways passes. Young showed it vs Liverpool and vs PSV.
You're just so wrong.

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Don't think I need to tell you about the actual goals and assists.

Against PSV Mata had 71 passes with a 94% accuracy to Young's 25 passes and 88% accuracy.
 
His positioning is his biggest asset. It's amazing how he found himself in those 2 situations- Martial goal and when the ball fell to him and he crossed to Memphis.

He’s very handy when he stays high up the pitch, useless when playing deeper. I still don’t like that we don’t use our right side at all.
 
There are some who think Mata's is infallible and will blame everyone but his for his shortcomings.

For me he's a clear luxury player and completely unbalances our team playing on the right. There's no need for him to be wondering into Rooney's space, not doing anything much, and leave a huge gap on the right.
 
We need to have some players who aren't afraid to take risks to create something. Cleverley could recycle possession and play it safe - it wasn't enough. Our goal came from an incorrect offside call against Mata, and a great bit of play by Martial. For a lot of the half we looked dour.

I never mentioned crossing the ball either, but Mata should have the tools and capability to create chances for us in the final third.

Anyway I don't want to come across like I am blaming Mata for the first half - I think the far bigger problem was our CM combination. Having two specialist holding midfielders doesn't really work for us I feel, we need to have one of Schweinsteiger, Herrera or Fellaini in there to offer something going forwards.
He creates more chances than any other player in our team. If you don't believe me or all these other posters or the manager who frequently starts him over Young then believe the black and white numbers.
https://www.redcafe.net/threads/juan-mata-2015-16-performances.406616/page-27#post-18161778
 
What a lot of rubbish he's had many an opportunity not just this game and he cuts back and plays safe square or backward passes. He passes the ball square and sprints away pretending to look for a return! He is going through the motions get him into ten or get him off.

What is he playing as then,if he is not a winger,not a midfielder and he is definitely not playing as a number 10???
 
What is he playing as then,if he is not a winger,not a midfielder and he is definitely not playing as a number 10???

Surely if you actually watch the game you can see what he's doing and where he's playing?

It's really not a novel position at all.
 
Thought he did well end of the half started to show for the ball and make runs, one of the main reasons we are back in this game imo.
 
For all the things I criticise Mata for, I really rate his finishing and work in the opposition penalty area. For me he can and perhaps should play basically as a false nine, with Martial.
 
People talk about playing Young or Valencia instead of Mata and it's just ridiculous. He is our most productive player.

Played a big part in the first goal as well as scoring the third.
 
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What the feck was Rooney doing there? Threw himself down. Would have been more in the way had he stood still.
 
Our best attacking player bar Martial, problem is not getting the ball to him enough
 
Apart from the first 25 when he didn't touch the ball basically, I thought he was great today. Fully deserved the goal.
 
He drifts out of games far too much but his statistical output is too good to not have in the team. Reminds me a bit of Rooney a few seasons back, actually.
 
Very good today. On the ball calm and composed like usual (PSV was a one-off in that regard) but he showed more potency expected of him. Off the ball his movement was great though much of that was due to the fact Southampton came to play so space was there to be exploited.
 
just play him instead of rooney, then bring young out wide. It's odd because he can contribute nothing for 60 minutes then grab a goal, which is why he's so valuable to us when we arent playing particularly well.
 
Didn't see a huge amount of ball, but whenever he has it he usually does the right thing

Think he is hugely important
 
Thought he was poor in the 1st half, but did better in the 2nd half.

His technique is superb. That was a very good finish.
 
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