Gotta go out on loan. Somewhere like Wigan!
Joshua King
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I think from day one he's been too good for the reserves. We all watch the reserves at some point and (you missed out Cofie btw who Sir Alex rates highly). I think he's a class act. Every game that I've watched him play, he's done something exceptional. Every game.
The good thing for us is that inspite of the injuries, it's not effected his confidence, his game (style of play) or his pace. I think you have to fit someone like King in and forward/winger would probably do it. That said Cofie this seasons been awesome - king like at times.
But Kings exceptional because he's so direct and he achieves so much from it. He's not scared to win back the ball if he loses it, his pace is very good and he's always good for a goal
I expect him to be loaned out now that the loan window for lower leagues is open again
In terms of his playing style, I've always thought that he's resembled Fernando Torres to an extent. By no means do I mean that he'll ever be as good, but if I had to compare him to another forward out there then Torres is the one who springs to mind for me. Quick, direct, multi-faceted in striker terms as he scores all types of goals, runs in behind defenders, good link-up play etc.
He's definitely a very talented young striker, hopefully this glut of good young strikers at the club will mean that the competition amongst them (and ofcourse the first teamers) brings out the best in them.
That comparison is apt too. I just think of Carew because I'm certain the boy will get even bigger than he is now.
feck, forgot about Cofie.
Aye, King is class almost every time I see him. He's sometimes a bit inconsistent in his finishing, but feck me he's only 18. His dribbling ability is top notch, he's as fast as anyone at the club and, like you say, he's incredibly direct.
Torres is certainly the comparison to be made, though I think he's potentially a better dribbler. Wouldn't like to say who he'll be as good as, but I think we've got cause to be excited.
I've not seen too much of him to be honest, but comparing him to Torres or saying he is going to be even better is surely extremely over reacting?
If you're right then obviously excitement is an understatement.
I see you haven't been reading the Youth forum much.All our lads are potentially better than everyone playing in the PL.
Paul Pogba, ooooohhh, Paul Pogba, ooooooohh.
He gave Giggsy the ball, and Arsenal...damn this one doesn't work!
He gave Giggsy the ball, and Arsenal...damn this one doesn't work!
...which once again proves the age-old proverb "people who are too simple to see the distinction between 'Joshua King is similar in style to Fernando Torres, perhaps he'll be a better dribbler' and 'Joshua King will be a better player than Fernando Torres', shouldn't try their hand at cleverness."
That's a great way of looking at that statement, so If I say that Gibson is a similar player to Fabregas(he is not, I'm just taking an example) and has better long range shot than him, does it mean that Gibson is better than Fabregas.
KingEric makes a very valid point actually.
Shame your point wasn't very valid. I never mentioned any attribute, it was KingEric that mentioned the dribbling. Basically my point was i've not seen much of King, if he's being compared to Torres (or even better) then we can be very excited.
KingEric never said that King would be worse than Torres but with better dribbling, as you have just done with Gibson and Fabregas.
Cute that you feel the need to stick up for him though.
I think it's our job to get overly excited about our youngsters
Well said
I try not to, but my inner muppet is too powerful.
Ah, it doesn't do any harm. No one remembers me harping on about how good David Jones was gonna be a few years back, and if Pogba doesn't make it then no one will remember me bending their ears about him in a couple of years. If he does though, they won't hear the end of it.
You seem to have mis-read my post.
I merely compared their styles and said nothing of the sort. He could end up at some second division Norweigan club for all I know but, as it stands, there's absolutely nothing wrong or inaccurate about what I've just said.
I get a sense that he is the kind of player that will pick up a lot of niggles especially hamstrings because he is just so bloody quick.
So far he's been more susceptible to ankle injuries, normally due to fouls on him.
If that were true, everyone of the kids would get a mention..but they don't do they? We have a proud history of bringing through kids. Maybe you should remember that rather then trying to dumb everyone down?
If you think Pogba, King, Morrison, Keane, Cofie and others are nothing to get 'excited about' ...then chances are you're dead inside Got it wrong mate. You can't go from one extreme to the other. Watch the reserves/academy and then tell him to shut his fat face
Trust me, you'll see why people rate him/alot of the kids highly....in my time watching the kids, this is the best concentration we've had in years and I don't think forward wise, we've had it this good in a long time.We're talking about potential here. People knocking it, should be embarassed. Why? Well because we f*ing watch the kids play. We have a basis to form an opinion. There is no way anyone of us can say 100% anything because we are not privy to the ins and outs of everything. This is the time of the 'new' or the 'next' and we can't do anything about it but it's lazy to knock it as we don't gain from it.
We have talented kids, there is no way around that. The only way you can say anything is if you watch when the games are played. The sad thing is they won't all make it, but we have talent in numbers and it's not being a muppet, it's having an awareness of the club we all support...
If you think Pogba, King, Morrison, Keane, Cofie and others are nothing to get 'excited about' ...then chances are you're dead inside
Couldn't agree more there. We do have some amazingly talented young players coming through.
Especially can't wait to see Morrison and Pogba in a few years time, injuries and other issues permitting.
King has a lot of good things about him, if he manages to learn how to use his assets on the pitch against better players he can be a top striker.
Also, Torres started playing for A.Madrid's first team at 17 years old and captain by 19.
Impressive amount of missing the point going on.
Are you lot fecking mad? How can you compare King with Torres? Has King even scored for the first team yet? What a bloody joke!
I felt left out so why not join in the foolery?
I felt left out so why not join in the foolery?
And he has better hair.
Ask any Preston fan who had the bigger impact on them King or Torres?
They know their onions...
They know their onions...
Liverpool even call their own legend King Kenny, not heard them call him Torres Kenny.
Got it wrong mate. You can't go from one extreme to the other. Watch the reserves/academy and then tell him to shut his fat face
We're talking about potential here. People knocking it, should be embarassed. Why? Well because we f*ing watch the kids play. We have a basis to form an opinion. There is no way anyone of us can say 100% anything because we are not privy to the ins and outs of everything. This is the time of the 'new' or the 'next' and we can't do anything about it but it's lazy to knock it as we don't gain from it.
We have talented kids, there is no way around that. The only way you can say anything is if you watch when the games are played. The sad thing is they won't all make it, but we have talent in numbers and it's not being a muppet, it's having an awareness of the club we all support...
Out of interest, how old are you?
At a club that is nothing like Manchester United of course.
You have to remember that youth team football was not available on MUTV or other channels until recent years.
In my 10 years of watching United youth teams, I would say that the youth in the club today is the best I have known.
Yes, yes there is. To think I made the original comparison to Torres in my post that started off the succession of missing the point. Almost like leaving a 'missing-the-point time bomb' which has taken many'a casualty.
30 and yes i've watched the kids for a good few years around the Mads Timm Era and the like . Any debate people have is based on two things. If they like that person and if they like that person. If they don't, remove all reason. I'm a psychology student if you are that interested, have played football most of my life...has that answered all your questions?
It won't change peoples attitudes now will it. However yes it was after Scholes, Giggs, Beckham, Neville/s, Butt etc period. We have good young kids. Why should we say nothing? I see no where people saying everyone will make it. It just seems silly to me when it's our teams future we're talking about and kids who represent our club. Now how old are you, or am I asking but not really that interested?...We can be optimistic in the youth we have. We have talent in number. Obviously not all will make it. This isn't new information. Obviously when people say he's the next so and so it's silly. We know. It's more for the benefit of people who have not seen the player to get an idea of what he's 'like' not what he 'is' and it might get them motivated to watch for themselves.
30 and yes i've watched the kids for a good few years around the Mads Timm Era and the like . Any debate people have is based on two things. If they like that person and if they like that person. If they don't, remove all reason. I'm a psychology student if you are that interested, have played football most of my life...has that answered all your questions?
We can be optimistic in the youth we have. We have talent in number. Obviously not all will make it. This isn't new information. Obviously when people say he's the next so and so it's silly. We know. It's more for the benefit of people who have not seen the player to get an idea of what he's 'like' not what he 'is' and it might get them motivated to watch for themselves.
Answers a lot of things! Sanctimonious claptrap. The reserve/youth forum is supposed to free from this kind of diatribe but you seem determined to want to force your viewpoint on others and also coming out with second rate psychobabble about " being dead inside" because you can't recognise a tongue in cheek comment.
Do us a favour, get a sense of humour, get of your high horse, grow up because if you really are 30 you sure don't show it, and you might get to enjoy the forums more