Strategic vision is bollocks. Woodward is as reactionary and as clueless as ever. He won't have a clue about the footballing ability of King, Ighalo or any of them. Absolute whopper.
Joshua King / signs for Watford
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Since July really.
That talkshite one reckons Koscielny is faster than the likes of Yedlin and Bellerin
Not even if you chucked him off a cliff.
50M for King. It' a really bad joke unless we are talking about Pelé.
Brexit O'clock. When all our hopes and dreams die.
More poor organising from the club. Woodward will probably have more visitors in the near future.
Got to wonder if this is with an eye to moving Martial on in the summer and bringing in a first choice then with King as backup? But then I've also got to wonder if our upper management even think like that.
I'm not sure why this would have any impact on Martial? The club wants an interchangeable front set and I see him fitting into this.
Do you really think it's Woodward plucking names from Champ Man and putting maverick bids in?
Well I think a lot of people want someone a level above Martial as our number one striker, at least in terms of consistency, and I doubt there'd be room for three strikers.
Be interesting to be a fly on the wall in the United offices at the mo.
It will be like that scene in Waterboy when his team are getting battered at half time...'Anybody got an idea?'
Clever old Ed knows he's in a strong bargaining position here with hours to go in the window, Rashford injured long term and, no doubt, a host of other well-planned out options
I'm all for this, and although we've apparently 'cooled' interest, there could still be something in this.
He's a player who, although not top class, would be a very good rotational player, in my opinion. He can also play as a left winger (cover for Rashford), up top and as a second striker.
He's not prolific, but he's a constant menace. Someone who, everytime I see him play, looks dangerous. He's also fantastic off the ball.
He's a player who, although not top class, would be a very good rotational player, in my opinion. He can also play as a left winger (cover for Rashford), up top and as a second striker.
He's not prolific, but he's a constant menace. Someone who, everytime I see him play, looks dangerous. He's also fantastic off the ball.
People said the same when they bought Mane, Wijnaldum, Henderson, Robertson, etc. This is not to say King would be as successful as those, but if the player suits our style then we should buy him.
What we've done over the last few years is try and buy 'top' players for the sake of it. Di Maria, Falcao, Sanchez, Lukaku, etc. Hasn't worked!
We have also bought Darmain, Blind, Rojo, Baily etc and that hasn't worked either, when you are starving everything looks tasty.
Loan signing would have been worth a punt, permanent deal wouldn’t make any sense unless it was for a low price.
The fact that we're paying 30M for a Manchester United reject.
Sorry, no disrespect to King, but this throws the "players that fits our characters cliche" to the bin.
He'll be nothing more than deadwoods next year.
Joshua King
437m per goal
1310m played
3Goals scored
2 Assists
Anthony Martial
168m per goal
2015m played
12Goals scored
5 Assists
And the last two years?
King scored 16 and Martial 8?
And this season King is LW and Martial striker...As a LW King outscores Martial.
Put whole stats when making and argument, not only partial....
Should have made it happen.
Even then, if he were to come he would probably play alongside Martial till Rashford is fully fit again. So they would help each other more so than compete. More goals overall.
I’d much rather us sign mertens, his contract is up in the summer so wouldn’t cost that much and would be a short term option.
I’d say King is much more of a known entity at this stage in his career than those you’ve mentioned. Although I agree with your second paragraph.
Woodward isn't the person selecting these targets though.
No manager should complains about ED, he's a fecking mug you can ask him for anything and he'll deliver.
30M for fecking joshua king???
30M for fecking joshua king???
Why? Is it because they're black. Surely he's seen both of them in the league in the last few years
What better way to us trending on social media so Ed can boast to commercial partners and the shareholders?
Winning's too complicated, all you need is sheer desperation in the transfer window and you've got your fans hooked.
What an awful signing this would have been. Signing Bournemouth's second best striker on deadline day on a permanent deal
King is not a very good striker. United reject for a very good reason. Had this gone through it would have been a case of Ole signing instant-deadwood based on desperation, lack of planning and nationality-blinkers.
Talk about the smashing of expectations and ambitions and unfathomable stupidity, when you go from Haaland at the start of the window to Josh King hours before then end, for probably double the fee. Shambles.
And no, you can't blame this purely on Woodward. Any clowns who disagree: do you think it's a coincidence we've only made actual approaches for two Norweigan strikers?
This is why I've said managers should never have full control. Give them too much power and they'll find a way to ruin things. Woodward never seems to learn his lesson in this sense.
If Ole sanctions this, he should have no complain when he got the sack.
Joshua King, 30M, deary me.
Meanwhile, Dortmund paid 30M for Halaand, gets a fecking fine players to play for 2-3 years, and pocket a nice 60M release clause in 3 years.
I'm wrong about ed, he is a fecking tool
Joshua King, 30M, deary me.
Meanwhile, Dortmund paid 30M for Halaand, gets a fecking fine players to play for 2-3 years, and pocket a nice 60M release clause in 3 years.
I'm wrong about ed, he is a fecking tool
For sure. Having King as a backup for Martial or Rashford aint bad.
Why are we still going on about this?I thought we had walked away.
Would be straight out of the door on a cut price deal or loan if Pochettino was to take over
No, I reckon our 50 global scouting reports were whittled down to 2 names: Haaland and King.
Yeah some people seem to want us to be more like Leeds. Splash out on expensive overpaid ballers in hope of pushing us into CL qualification. If we apponted another free spending manager after Jose instead of Ole, that's where we would be.
He’s a “United reject” because of injuries to be fair to himWhat an awful signing this would have been. Signing Bournemouth's second best striker on deadline day on a permanent deal
King is not a very good striker. United reject for a very good reason. Had this gone through it would have been a case of Ole signing instant-deadwood based on desperation, lack of planning and nationality-blinkers.
Talk about the smashing of expectations and ambitions and unfathomable stupidity, when you go from Haaland at the start of the window to Josh King hours before then end, for probably double the fee. Shambles.
And no, you can't blame this purely on Woodward. Any clowns who disagree: do you think it's a coincidence we've only made actual approaches for two Norweigan strikers?
I wish he was able to play right side forward as well as what he already has then I’d have been happy to lodge a bid (£30m max) for him and see what happens. He’d have incredible versatility, he’s a former Utd youth product, he brings experience to a young frontline and I think he’d be content with not starting every match. I think he would be a decent rotation option for a title winning team.
But hes yet another left side forward who gets into striker positions and Bournemouth want £50m, so not really.
But hes yet another left side forward who gets into striker positions and Bournemouth want £50m, so not really.
Origi was signed as a promising youth player from Lille at age 18 for £10m. Not as a squad player.
Shaqiri was signed for his release clause of a paltry £13m from Stoke. As a squad player.
Naby Keita was signed as a first team player for £60m. Not as a squad player.
Josh King for the rumoured fee would be silly due to the high cost for a average to above average performer imo.
So basically, the circumstances are all different. The prices for Origi and Shaqiri are no more a metric we need to be using than the price for Keita.
Personally, I can’t think of many rotation options that would be much better than King, unless they are super talented kids or oldies who may or may not still have it. I think he’s the right profile, minus his worrying injury record admittedly.
Difference is, Josh King plays in the EPL, and as I said, whenever I see him play, he always does a good job. It's not something i'm saying now. I have mentioned before today that I'd like King as a squad player.