Jose Mourinho | Spurs manager
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I'm still very relieved to this day that he is not our problem anymore. He was disaster at man utd. Wasting hundreds of millions and playing the most boring football ever at our club.
What were we thinking bringing in this dinosaur past it manager to compete with Pep and Kloop.
What were we thinking bringing in this dinosaur past it manager to compete with Pep and Kloop.
Van Gaal beat him to that.
Wow looking at this Spur team and wonder what happened to Mourinho. I can't lie I thought they will be challenging for the second spot with us.
He went to Madrid and did the same thing. Tried the entire first season to sack the DOF Valdano because they disagreed on some transfers (Mourinho wanted some lump upfront, Valdano understandably vetoed). He’s a really weird guy when it comes to football. He prefers to cultivate bad relationships than good. So annoying that he did it with us and sacked key parts of Carrington and our academy.
Both odd managers who seemed to become cowards. Lvg after that Leicester result, and then didn't push on when stumbling on that 433
Jose completely fcked it with that Sevilla result and press conference
And then just totally lost it
His first season with us was most enjoyable of course and he came 6th
Was just about to type that.
The replies. Jose still has a cult support amongst our fanbase.
I bet Levy wakes up in a cold sweat every morning and says to himself.....
‘Please let it be a bad dream’.......
Then reality sinks in......
‘Sorry Mauricio.......what have I done..........’
‘Please let it be a bad dream’.......
Then reality sinks in......
‘Sorry Mauricio.......what have I done..........’
Just further proof that modern fans are weird little creatures.
Do you now get the usefulness of xG and other underlying stats?
This is the exact argument our fans were having 6-8 months or so before Mou eventually got the boot. Interestingly, we were having this argument roughly 8 months ago as well.
I don't hate Jose, but I'm glad his time at Spurs has shut up the few weirdos left on here who were still gushing over him. Truly bizarre creatures.
Can you elaborate on that? What was the data pointing towards?
xG in an isolated game may not be that useful but trend over time can be very informative.
Wow the replies to the tweet are something else. His cult is amazing. Not sure there are comparable cults
That at that time, Spurs were overachieving their xG under Mou. I think the difference between GD and xGD was ~10 goals, and going by xG numbers only, Spurs under Mou were 8th best attacking side, and were in the bottom half when it comes to xGA
Good to see @GlastonSpur Dissapear yet again.
Nagelsman on his way in!
From the Athletic article"
Some players are unhappy with training sessions. Think they are:
- Too defensive
- Too focused on the opposition
- Not as intense as under Pochettino
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A section of players who used to complain about Pochettino's double sessions and rare days off now wish they were working harder.
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Some attacking players feel:
- Unhappy how little focus there is on coaching complex offensive patterns
- They are still reliant on moves and finishes in the final third learned and honed under Pochettino due to the low level of detailed attack work under Mourinho.
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Mourinho's approach is tailored on reacting to opposition with a bespoke pragmatic style in response to that, whereas, under Pochettino the approach was universal regardless of opponent.
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Players grown bored of spending hours working on how to defend throw-ins when they are preparing to play Liverpool.
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One source said that players are at risk from "tactical overload".
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One internal source said, "There is no plan to move the ball forward. The plan is to defend, boot the ball up to Kane and Son, and that's it".
Some players are unhappy with training sessions. Think they are:
- Too defensive
- Too focused on the opposition
- Not as intense as under Pochettino
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A section of players who used to complain about Pochettino's double sessions and rare days off now wish they were working harder.
-------------------
Some attacking players feel:
- Unhappy how little focus there is on coaching complex offensive patterns
- They are still reliant on moves and finishes in the final third learned and honed under Pochettino due to the low level of detailed attack work under Mourinho.
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Mourinho's approach is tailored on reacting to opposition with a bespoke pragmatic style in response to that, whereas, under Pochettino the approach was universal regardless of opponent.
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Players grown bored of spending hours working on how to defend throw-ins when they are preparing to play Liverpool.
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One source said that players are at risk from "tactical overload".
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One internal source said, "There is no plan to move the ball forward. The plan is to defend, boot the ball up to Kane and Son, and that's it".
None of that would be surprising in the least although I wonder whether the sources are just Dele Alli and Broadway Danny Rose having their revenge.
Cut and last from his time here. He's finished.
This could literally be a cut and paste job from his time here... for all his talk about evolving, he's been making the same mistakes for the best part of a decade now.
I can totally believe that, thats basically all they do in attack.
I'm very sure I read the same lines few years ago.
I read that too and I can absolutely understand and believe everything in the article. Just surprised of all people, he is giving them days off and low intensity training. Mourinho, in a time where his players are having shockers and his tactics aren’t working! Article doesn’t mention anything about man-management but I’m sure many of his players dislike him too.
It is pretty self evident that the players in general are not happy with what is going on.
The absolute number 1 thing a coach has to do is to get the players to have total faith in what they are being told to do.
Without this, the coach is not going to succeed.
Jose used to be very good at motivating his squad and the results were exceptional.
This is unfortunately now not the case. And we can see that by the outcome.
Yeah. These days, telling a player how shit they are and have been to ‘get a reaction’ is not going to work, and rightly so. That isn’t management. We all could become a manager then. Just set the team up in a defensive, low-block 4-2-3-1 no matter the opposition and tell them that they’re all awful so they can play well to prove us wrong.
Mourinho’s methods are drastically past it and the only reason he won something at Chelsea in his second spell was because he had the likes of Cech, Terry, Drogba, Cole etc, who liked him the first time and helped him keep the dressing room onside. I mean, there was nearly anarchy at Madrid already. Literally everyone hated him bar Perez and the only reason he won something there as well was because of Ozil and Ronaldo’s magisterial brilliance. Even there, he wasn’t coaching any complex attacking patterns.
Long may it continue but his days are numbered.
He needs to move to international management. His best club days are behind him unless he can change his footballing philosophies (i doubt it).
Listening to this weeks Transfer Window podcast. Mourinho blaming the poor recruitment and Mourinho not getting the CB he wanted. That money was wasted on Bale against his wishes according to Duncan Castles.
Also the squad is need of a refresh, its at the end of a cycle, apparently. Covid has wrecked the plans that Mourinho was bought to the club under.
Brendan Rodgers being linked with the job as well. (He should stay at Leicester imo).
I don't think Jose is nearly as bad as many are now pretending. He definitely isn't a top top manager anymore but you could do a lot worse, even if his tactics are somewhat outdated and he falls out with every club after a few seasons. But for him to succeed he needs the right mix of players to work with. Spurs just don't have enough talent, especially in defense. And Jose has never been the man you want to guide a rebuild of the squad. So for me there is just no rationale - beyond not wanting to pay him the 30m buyout - for keeping him beyond this season.
he does spend quite a bit of money trying to do this
Aside from the human sacrifice connotations, who is doing the offering? Are RBL keen to get rid of him?"Offered"? What?
What does he have to do to prove to you he’s an awful manager? Frankly I don’t think there’s anyone worse in the league.
I'm genuinely puzzled who it could be that is 'offering' Nagelsmann to other clubs, especially to one like Tottenham, and how Duncan Castles would know about it. Makes absolutely no sense.
This. Some bullshit romantic notion that the manager who won two CL's and 5 league titles in his career still has it.
Meanwhile any actual constructive review of the last 10 years shows a catastrophic decline mixed with some success at the halfway point.
Seriously, since he won the Europa League, he has been fecking atrocious and 2nd place is nothing to brag about.
They are a selling club but offering a manager up is a bit extreme
"Offered"? What?
Maybe by Nagelsmann's agent? Maybe Nagelsmann wants to try management in the PL?
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