horsechoker
The Caf's Ezza.
Was Eric Dier a stupid cnut or an intelligent cnut when he jumped into the stands?
We started well and then it turned worse. We will see what happens with Spurs who have not even started well.Ironically the last team to knock City out of the EFL Cup was us, when we were under the management of the man in the topic.
Mourinho usually has an average first season, and boosts the team to the peak in the second season, then finally everything falls apart in the third season.We started well and then it turned worse. We will see what happens with Spurs who have not even started well.
Team (Season) | League Ranking |
---|---|
Madrid (10/11) | 2 |
Madrid (11/12) | 1 |
Madrid (12/13) | 2 |
Chelsea (13/14) | 3 |
Chelsea (14/15) | 1 |
Chelsea (15/16) | 16 |
United (16/17) | 6 |
United (17/18) | 2 |
United (18/19) | 6 |
Mourinho usually has an average first season, and boosts the team to the peak in the second season, then finally everything falls apart in the third season.
Team (Season) League Ranking Madrid (10/11) 2 Madrid (11/12) 1 Madrid (12/13) 2 Chelsea (13/14) 3 Chelsea (14/15) 1 Chelsea (15/16) 16 United (16/17) 6 United (17/18) 2 United (18/19) 6
Tbh I don't think Mourinho has been doing too bad at Spurs for the moment. Yes they don't play beautiful attacking football and their offensive stats look miserable, but you just don't expect his side to excel in this area. Ranking 4th in the league (only behind Liverpool, City and United) isn't something to be ashamed of, especially when you consider they have just lost their best playmaker for years while Kane and Son have been out for some time (@balaks has already kept trying to get these points across). We struggle pretty much in the same way (or worse) when we didn't have Bruno while Pogba/Rashford/Martial were injured.I think he started well for us with two cups. Won with Real the cup too.
The league position with us was pretty low and we had far too many draws.
Still you could see things to build on.
Not seeing much with Spurs.
Why is it guaranteed?He will win a trophy for them. That much is almost guaranteed.
It might be the europa league next year. Possibly even league cup.
Why is it guaranteed?
Doesn't mean he will at Spurs.Where has he not won a trophy?
Doesn't mean he will at Spurs.
He 'guarenteed' back to back titles until he went to Madrid, he 'guarenteed' a trophy a season alongside a minimum 2nd place until he returned to us, he 'guarenteed' the title in his second season until he went to United.
Trends are there to be broken.
He's absolutely shameless
Yep, always go into that trend.Mourinho usually has an average first season, and boosts the team to the peak in the second season, then finally everything falls apart in the third season.
Team (Season) League Ranking Madrid (10/11) 2 Madrid (11/12) 1 Madrid (12/13) 2 Chelsea (13/14) 3 Chelsea (14/15) 1 Chelsea (15/16) 16 United (16/17) 6 United (17/18) 2 United (18/19) 6
Where has he not won a trophy?
I've said it before and I'll say it again, José Mourinho is the best manager in world football
I know his team have run riot here but this tactic would have been tough with fans in the ground. Before they scored the first goal, they had <30% possession.
He is doing a very good job so far.
Agree. Kane was more of a factor than Jose here. The 2-0 goal was low-percentage; the 3-0 was not even an obvious scoring opportunity. And if it had still been 1-0 at half-time, feck knows how that could've changed the game.Mourinho has set up the team to counter that he does very often. He hasn't really pulled a rabbit out of his hat here. Leicester are struggling because of their own naivety and of course Harry Kane's brilliance. There is no way Spurs can win league titles with this type of football against teams like Man City and Liverpool.
For a one off game, this style of pragmatic, low-risk, counter-attacking football works when the opponent makes more mistakes than you. I am not complaining as he is doing us a great service and maybe inadvertently paying back all the millions in wages he has taken from the club.
He does, and he's at the right club right for him!
Don't get me wrong and I don't mean this as a mocking, but Tottenham is smaller club when compared to United, Chelsea and Real Madrid, which means that he's once again in position of a underdog, something that suits him both on and off the pitch.
Disagree. Spurs may not be a bigger club than us, Chelsea, and RM but they still have a record of playing on the front foot. Fans may be happy with conceding the initiative and waiting for opposition mistakes for one off games but gradually the protests around boring football and always playing on the back foot will gain strength. Spurs are not a Mourinho team.Yeah I think you could be right.
You are just a little ray of bitter sunshine aren't you.Disagree. Spurs may not be a bigger club than us, Chelsea, and RM but they still have a record of playing on the front foot. Fans may be happy with conceding the initiative and waiting for opposition mistakes for one off games but gradually the protests around boring football and always playing on the back foot will gain strength. Spurs are not a Mourinho team.
Players like Kane and Son will get disillusioned, Jose will come out and question the integrity of players, and the whole drama around his toxicity and his maneuver to get sacked will leave the club in tatters and a lot less money.
The definition of insanity: trying the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Jose isn't going to change and I don't see this ending any other way.You are just a little ray of bitter sunshine aren't you.
I can definitely see this. I won't talk about Son because I don't feel qualified but I can absolutely envision a scenario in which Kane gets bored of never pushing for a goal after 60 minutes while he's on for a hat trick. Kane's nowhere near as selfish as people make him out to be (if he was, he'd have agitated for - and almost certainly got - a big upwards move a long time ago) but every player has their limits.Disagree. Spurs may not be a bigger club than us, Chelsea, and RM but they still have a record of playing on the front foot. Fans may be happy with conceding the initiative and waiting for opposition mistakes for one off games but gradually the protests around boring football and always playing on the back foot will gain strength. Spurs are not a Mourinho team.
Players like Kane and Son will get disillusioned, Jose will come out and question the integrity of players, and the whole drama around his toxicity and his maneuver to get sacked will leave the club in tatters and a lot less money.
Records are definitely one of the factors for Kane. In general, I feel that players like Kane and Son won't sit well with the pragmatic, low-risk, counter-attacking football over a period of time. They are just not that type of players that thrive in such an environment. And Jose is totally incapable of changing his style and being more expansive to suit the players he has at his disposal.I can definitely see this. I won't talk about Son because I don't feel qualified but I can absolutely envision a scenario in which Kane gets bored of never pushing for a goal after 60 minutes while he's on for a hat trick. Kane's nowhere near as selfish as people make him out to be (if he was, he'd have agitated for - and almost certainly got - a big upwards move a long time ago) but every player has their limits.
Under Jose, he'll still get 20+ a season in the league because he's a fantastic striker who finishes a lot of low-percentage chances, but he won't be pushing the old 30+ benchmark with these tactics. And I don't know how willing he'll be to sacrifice his shot at all-time records in the crucial back-half of his career if he's not winning anything to compensate.
I can definitely see this. I won't talk about Son because I don't feel qualified but I can absolutely envision a scenario in which Kane gets bored of never pushing for a goal after 60 minutes while he's on for a hat trick. Kane's nowhere near as selfish as people make him out to be (if he was, he'd have agitated for - and almost certainly got - a big upwards move a long time ago) but every player has their limits.
Under Jose, he'll still get 20+ a season in the league because he's a fantastic striker who finishes a lot of low-percentage chances, but he won't be pushing the old 30+ benchmark with these tactics. And I don't know how willing he'll be to sacrifice his shot at all-time records in the crucial back-half of his career if he's not winning anything to compensate.