Let's hope he does. I'd love to see Moany brought back down to earth, and if it isn't Wenger then I hope it's Klopp or Pellegrini (Mourinho's other fav target).
Jose Mourinho Sack Watch
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Let's hope he does. I'd love to see Moany brought back down to earth, and if it isn't Wenger then I hope it's Klopp or Pellegrini (Mourinho's other fav target).
Not sure if it's been posted already, but this article was glorious.
José Mourinho is a cultural terrorist who is too immature to create a dynasty
Over time, players grow embarrassed by manager’s attempts to foster siege mentality
In a recent report, McKinsey, the management consultancy, concluded that narrative is one of the most vital assets of any organisation. This may sound a bit soft and fuzzy, particularly from a sharp-edged corporate like McKinsey, but it tallies with modern psychological research as well as common sense.
Think of Manchester United under Sir Alex Ferguson. Read his books and you will note that Ferguson was always talking about what it meant to be a “United player”. It was about passion, work ethic and a grounding in the history of the club. He didn’t want pay-cheque performers. He wanted people who could demonstrate a deeper commitment.
Narrative was central to this. Ferguson constantly emphasised the sense of United as a living, breathing storyline with emotional depth. He talked about the Busby Babes, the Munich air disaster, the rebuilding of the club from the ashes of the runway, Best, Law and Charlton, the European heroics of ’68 and the sense of a club with a defining mission.
It helped that many of his players carried United in their hearts from childhood. When the club won the league title in 1997, Nicky Butt, the Neville brothers and Ryan Giggs went down to the Busby statue outside Old Trafford and joined the fans in celebration. “We knew we had to go and join in,” Phil Neville would later say.
Other United players who were not childhood fans bought into the narrative, too. Fourteen years after leaving the club, Peter Schmeichel was interviewed on ITV before a United game in 2013. He was born in Denmark and played for Brondby in his youth. But whenever he talked about United, it was “us” and “we”. He still felt a sense of belonging.
This is what Richard Reich, the economist, calls the pronoun test. “On a tour of workplaces, I ask front-line workers to tell me about the company, and I listen for the pronouns,” he has said. “And if they use ‘we’ or ‘our’, I know that there is a kind of bond there, an affinity. There’s a sense in which that employee feels that their destiny is bound up with the future of the company. But if they use different pronouns — ‘they’, ‘their’ — I know there’s a distance . . . and it’s going to have a very different result.”
I was reflecting on these truths while watching José Mourinho’s press conference after another defeat by Southampton on Saturday. Mourinho understands precious little about narrative and belonging. His motivational technique is based upon something very different: me, me, me. It is about the cult of the individual — Mourinho himself.
This is predicated, in turn, upon creating a sense of permanent crisis. He sees conspiracies everywhere. The referees, the Premier League, Uefa, the ballboys, the team doctor, Uncle Tom Cobley: whatever it takes to get his players to feel like they are enduring a siege.
In the short term, this technique works. Nobody wants to be in a siege, fighting for one’s life, and so the players respond. But over the long-term, it begins to grate. It is like a narcotic or a sugar rush: you need ever more crises to recruit ever dwindling amounts of emotional response, particularly when the players begin to see through the underlying charade. In the end, it becomes cloying.
They say that the Real Madrid players eventually became bored of Mourinho, but the truth is that they became ashamed of him. They saw him stab a finger into the eye of Tito Vilanova, his Barcelona rival. They observed him name four referees over whom Barcelona, supposedly, had “special power”. They watched as he was banished from the dugout during a Copa del Rey final and how he stormed out of the stadium without bothering to collect his loser’s medal from the King of Spain. They noted how he insulted the referee again in the car park.
Over three seasons, they saw him traduce, malign and infect — and, in the end, they couldn’t bear it. They were exhausted by the caricature running their club and his juvenile approach to leadership. And with the clarity that comes with time, they saw through it. Mourinho’s so-called third-season syndrome, his difficulty in creating long-term success at a club, is not mere misfortune: it is a direct consequence of his management technique. Some football managers you could imagine as leaders in different contexts, at, say, a great business or charity. These are the leaders who understand human nature and, by implication, how to create a sustainable, enriching culture.
Mourinho, however, is a cultural terrorist. He sucks whatever vitality there is in a culture into the black hole of his ego. He is an impressive tactician, to be sure, but when it comes to sustainability, he is all at sea. He is too immature, emotionally and philosophically, to create dynastic success, at a football club or anywhere else. What success he achieves comes by napalming the native culture, and then moving on.
His treatment of Eva Carneiro is a mere detail (albeit a shameful one). The arc of his career reveals the same theme. After losing the first leg of a Champions League match with Chelsea, he accused the referee of inviting an opposition coach into his room at half-time, which led to death threats against the referee and his premature retirement. On Saturday, he claimed that referees were “afraid” to give decisions to Chelsea, despite Southampton being denied two clear penalties.
Even the most one-eyed Chelsea fans are beginning to recognise that the notion of this man spending ten years at one club is inconceivable. They have realised that any club that hosted him for so long would become philosophically derelict. Chelsea will doubtless rebound in the coming months: with the players and money at the club’s disposal, you would expect that.
But there can be little doubt that, when you look at his career, Mourinho has scant comprehension of the motivation written into men’s hearts, and which can sustain itself over the long haul. He understands only the most dehumanising type of culture: the kind that emerges from maligning others while constantly trumpeting oneself — and which typically, with tired inevitability, implodes.
Neil Ashton was on TV yesterday. He has close ties with Chelsea so his opinions might have some credence. He said, Chelsea are delaying the inevitable and the major reason he hasn't been sacked is that the Club doesn't want to go through the whole process of looking for another manager which is understandable. He added that regardless of what is said in public, staff at the club, which includes playing staff have gotten tired of him and although he thinks results will improve, they aren't hoing to return to anywhere near what they were last season. Said he's convinced he won't be there this time next year.
Glorious, yet overreaching. The likes of Drogba, Lampard and Terry would disprove that IMO.
Big Mou faces 'mutiny' from Chelsea players:
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...sea-as-players-turn-against-him-a3091181.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jose-mourinho-facing-chelsea-dressing-6641639
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...sea-as-players-turn-against-him-a3091181.html
http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/jose-mourinho-facing-chelsea-dressing-6641639
Feck me. Harsh.
Has there ever been a case like this, where a team is very much on top and goes into the following season with pretty much the same core set up, only for the manager to just completely shit the bed and cause the team to implode?
wont surprise me if its Terry that's the ring leader and the one talking to the press. He's a snake.
Can't remember this happening at a high profile club tbh. Not crazy about 'player' mutinies irrespective of who the manager is, but what the hell has he done there to cause so much upset? Really puzzles me.
Moyes?
I would agree. Can see him whipping out his big spoon and stirring the shit out of any angst in that dressing room.
Gone before Xmas at this rate.
Wasn't as bad as this.
Doubt it. He has publicly backed Mourinho and genuinely seems behind him.
"Derogatory one word nickname". 
Not a surprise at all. You can't imagine enjoying working under someone like that.
Not a surprise at all. You can't imagine enjoying working under someone like that.
Total nonsense.
Hard to believe someone like Azpi would be chastised despite being one of the nicest guys at the club and always give 100 percent for the club, he's even sacrificing himself by playing at left back for the last two years ffs. Same with Matic and Oscar. That article would've made some sense if it said Hazard, Cesc, and the others in poor form were berated -- it seems to say otherwise.
Read the article. The players are saying different things privately. He's done it before.
If it is true though, Mourinho should leave. Accusing the players that have shown the most passion and intensity fir his ideas is absolutely ridiculous. He has sacrificed these guys natural game for the sake of the team and to now turn on them rather then guys like Hazard and Fabregas is a sackable offence IMO.
Mourinho doesn't care about nice guys. A number of papers have picked up on this at the same time. Someone has been briefed.
And he'd never lie.
I like the point behind the article but I disagree with the conclusion regarding Mourinho. I think that he acts like that because he is insecure, I think that the clubs he chose to manage are the reason of that insecurity, when you manage Chelsea and Real Madrid you are alone against everyone at the first mistake you are out. I'm convinced that we would see a totally different man if he was managing United, Arsenal or a club less trigger happy,
I really doubt it is John Terry. I suspect other players if it is even true.
The independent and the dailymail are saying the same thing. They haven't all decided to make it up at the same time. I can bet someone in the squad has spoken.
I hope he turns up to the Villa game with a tinfoil hat. They're all out to get you Jose!
Because media are always telling the truth right? Not that one has posted it and others have copied the original story or anything? Christ, people complain about the media talking shit and then lap it up when they do talk shit.
Well lets disagree. I think when a lot of broadsheets break a story at the same time, it's usually because they have been briefed.
I'm not disagreeing with you. I have dealt a player revolt happening for a while now and this wasn't surprising. I'm just saying the media talk shit and to blindly believe them is stupid.
What do the Chelsea supporters here think the problem is? Jose's coming off a winning season, he's still got his core players - yet they seem either demotivated or not arsed. What's gone wrong between the end of last season and the beginning of this one?
I'm not a fan of player power either but the way Mourinho has thrown some of them under the bus while absolving himself of all blame for the results, it wouldn't be surprising.
I don't think it's the same, we had lost our iconic manager of 25 years and Moyes had no idea how to manage a big club. Chelsea went into the season as comfortable winners last season with the same proven manager at the helm and all the key players still at the club.
Lack of competition, age catching up to some and a poor mentality from a couple of players which has spread across the team.
I was wondering if he wanted to ship some of the players out and refresh the squad somewhat, but Abramovich didn't seem like he wanted to spend much during the transfer window? Could that be why he's so pissed off?
Very quiet from them this season.
Yes, seems like it. At least that was a part of his initial frustration. I think alot of the lashing out started because he felt insecure and not fully backed in his position.
Agree with this. Unfortunately, he's making things worse as he can't seem to snap out of his bad mood. Probably not easy to be around him at the moment tbf to the players - even if I still strongly disagree with them running their mouth off to the press.
With Ivanovic injured they might have a good run of form.
The word is that he's going to use Zouma as a LB. It's bloody ridiculous if he does that. The club bought a LB for £21m.
It seems he is going to play Zouma at RB. He must either really not rate the LB they bought from Augsburg or he really does not want to move Azpi from the LB position.
It looks like he has no control over the transfer policy. Has Rahman started a game, has that Djiloboli guy even played?
Not really. Most supporters are still backing Jose.
I was fed up with his antics long time ago (even before we won the title). If he walks tomorrow I will be happy.
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