He's got it totally wrong again. We're crying out for some width, we're so narrow.
I still fully expect us to go on and win comfortably in the 2nd half.
I still fully expect us to go on and win comfortably in the 2nd half.
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That used to be my line of thinking, but I think the "spend more money" argument needs putting to bed. We spend and spend and get no better. Coaching is our issue.
Our striker is an oaf upfront, he can’t play on his own. Hell he can’t even pull a defender out of position through his movement.
Lukaku will only work with someone alongside him. We are too cramped, too slow in the break and lack width.
Unless Mourinho changes things, this could be another frustrating day.
Lukaku will only work with someone alongside him. We are too cramped, too slow in the break and lack width.
Unless Mourinho changes things, this could be another frustrating day.
Jose spend 75m on him, so he is the only one to be held responsible for that
Bring in Messi, Ronaldo, Griezmann, Dybala...
Wouldn't matter.
Wouldn't matter.
Lukaku needs this, Pogba that, Martial can only play on the left, I'm so tired of these excuses as to why we struggle to play fluid football. It's the most basic thing for a top team and yet we can't accomplish it.
Jose needs to find a way to make us better offensively as a collective, other than spending money on individual players and hoping they save him somehow.
Been the case for a very long time.
Ah, so we're now into "it's all the players fault" phase.
You can just tell that they don't put enough effort in collectively at times. I'm not saying all of his signings have been perfect and he can do no wrong. Mostly his signings have been good, but I just feel he has succumbed too the pressure accusing him of stifling young players, leading him to give too many chances to youngsters. This doesn't look like a Mourinho team to me. We have too many inexperienced players in attack. Rashford, Martial, Lingard and even Pogba and Lukaku are showing signs of immaturity at times.
There are no real leaders in this team. If it really is true that Mourinho doesn't coach his players how to attack, then it's even more understandable why there is no cohesion and bad decision making in attack. Experienced players have been there and done that, they know how to make things work. It's individual of course but it seems to me that our players aren't clicking in attack even after one and a half seasons under Mourinho.
If I was Mourinho, I would have never dared to go into this season relying on Rashford, Lingard and Martial as key players in attack, especially after Zlatans injury. Pogba and Lukaku are also still young but they are obviously world class players and would benefit from having more experienced players beside them in attack. The signing of someone like Sanchez plus a proven right winger should have come already last summer if we were to really compete.
I'm not saying this is our only problem, we obviously have to sort out our FB situation as well and add another quality midfielder + right winger in order for Mourinho to have more to work with. We have made a brilliant move in signing Sanchez now though and I hope we bring in some more quality in attack going forward.
I can see what Mourinho was trying to do today, having two experienced players in Mata and Sanchez in attack beside Lukaku, leaving Martial and Rashford out, and it paid off. We need better than Mata though going forward, he is experienced but limited.
It's not a phase for me. I have maintained since last season that we need more experienced players in attack. We got Sanchez now so we're on the right track, but it should have happened sooner. Yet we are still constantly improving since Mourinho came, but we can't take that final step imo without more reinforcements.
Sanchez. Pogba. Matic. Mata. These are all seasoned experienced attackers. Give it a rest with this spineless stuff.
Last season, we could neither beat fodder nor the big teams consistently. This time, we are more or less consistent against the smaller teams bar the Huddersfield away debacle and we still can't beat the top teams convincingly -- that's getting us top 4 but not a title challenge.
Would say I'd take that at this stage, we are improving for sure.
Would say I'd take that at this stage, we are improving for sure.
Sanchez has only played 2 games and you can already see what a difference he will make for this team. Matic is not an attacker although he's been a great stabilising force for us. Pogba is obviously world class but he let's us down at times when it's most important. Mata is experienced but he's very limited. If we could just combine Martials skills with Matas decision making and experience into one player.
Guardiola plays quality attacking football with Leroy Sane and a much-maligned Raheem Sterling on the wings. They're young and inexperienced and have been improved through Guardiola's input. I'm not buying it.
We are shite going forward because of Mourinho, not because of inexperience.
Laid down the law today eh? I was worried he would stayed petulant and not brought Pogba or Martial on but he surprised me. It's important the players know who's the boss. However, you should also balance that with showing them that you won't hold a grudge as long as you tow the line. So that was good from him today.
The Spurs result was still his fault though
The Spurs result was still his fault though
Well done in dropping Pogba.
People are falling for this "laying down the law" shite?
Classic Mourinho, this. By dropping Pogba and Martial today he made it apparent that Wednesday's result was not his fault. He gave them instructions they didn't follow.
He's always pulled stunts like this. Instead of owning up to playing the wrong game, he benches popular 'stars', picks a team that should still theoretically best Huddersfield, and strengthens his position in the media.
Blame Pogba and Martial. Don't blame me...
Call me cynical and call me crazy, but it's classic Mourinho.
Classic Mourinho, this. By dropping Pogba and Martial today he made it apparent that Wednesday's result was not his fault. He gave them instructions they didn't follow.
He's always pulled stunts like this. Instead of owning up to playing the wrong game, he benches popular 'stars', picks a team that should still theoretically best Huddersfield, and strengthens his position in the media.
Blame Pogba and Martial. Don't blame me...
Call me cynical and call me crazy, but it's classic Mourinho.
Boss did good job today. Hopefully with some of our superstars dropped today, they have more motivations to be better and better so we can win many trophies.. Hahahahaha.. I'm very happy with the win today.
Pep is a different kind of manager, he's probably able to create a better structure and identity in their attacking play which gives the young players some direction and possibility to improve.
Mourinho on the other hand has always relied on experienced players. And if it's true that he doesn't do much attacking coaching and let's the players figure it out for themselves, then it's understandable why our young attackers can't form any kind of consistent way of attacking and often it seems like there is no cohesion in attack.
I'm confident that we will see this issue massively improve with Sanchez on the field.
Pogba was fecking worse than shite against Spurs though.
If it's actually true we need another manager.
You could be right. But, if teaches either a lesson, particularly Pogba, then it could only be beneficial to the player and the team. I think today would have been a little reality check for Pogba, if he needed one; we have WC forward who has enough quality to get us over the line in these sort of games where he isn't playing, unlike earlier in the season.
However, where you might wrong is that fact that Mourinho has been scrutinised plenty by the media for the mistakes he's made this season, so who is he trying to fool?
Not like Pogba and Matic's incapabillity to play a midfield 2 against decent\good opposition should be news for Mourinho.
Well he's done pretty well in his whole career doing things the way he does. I don't see why he couldn't do it here, given the right circumstances. It would be foolish to get rid of him now, we have been constantly improving under him, I don't see why it wouldn't continue despite our problems.
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Mourinho is the boss, just a reminder.
So a better one basically.
You're a shit poster though
His job is to win games. He won today.
Before he signed for us, they were saying he doesn’t play “youth”.... who did he drop Pogba for today? Oh wait. McTominay. And they’re still criticising him. Laughable.
Before he signed for us, they were saying he doesn’t play “youth”.... who did he drop Pogba for today? Oh wait. McTominay. And they’re still criticising him. Laughable.
Yep
Well that's not the only job of a manager, although I don't buy the fact that Mourinho doesn't give any sort of direction on how to attack. But I'm sure Pep is better at it. I think organising a defence would be an area where Mourinho is more capable, and he is known for his man management skills as you probably know.
Having another go at the Old Trafford crowd today. It does seem very quiet at times, we need a few big performances to light it up. When is the last time we won 5 or 6-0? That would help.
He needs to stop that. Win the league or CL and he will hear noise. He's got much bigger things to worry about imo.
Why don't we try to fly with a submarine? Or, wait for Panda eggs? Of course he'll be bad, the whole team was. Badly played chess.
Calm down luv.
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