Players aren't allowed to go through a crisis of confidence, if they perform badly they are automatically shit and should put into the reserves.
Jonny Evans | 2011/12 Performances
- Thread starter Decotron
- Start date
- Status
Players aren't allowed to go through a crisis of confidence, if they perform badly they are automatically shit and should put into the reserves.
Were those quotes after the drubbing by West Ham when many of us thought he'd be flogged? Knee jerk perhaps but he was in quite rubbish form at that time, luckily we stuck with him and i admit i was wrong. He's been quite fantastic this season, and long may it continue. Vidic is out for the season, and i cant believe i'm saying this but we don't miss him right now. Evans and Rio have been brilliant
To be fair jonny could end up doing another 180 degrees and turning crap and low on confidence again.
He has gone through 2 phases right now, but i really do hope he continues as he has been in the last few months.
He showed potential, then after a few bad performances completely went into his shell.
He seems to have really grown in both mental and physical terms this year, and i hope this is the level of consistancy he will continue to reach.
Just hope for his sake he doesnt have another relapse.
He has gone through 2 phases right now, but i really do hope he continues as he has been in the last few months.
He showed potential, then after a few bad performances completely went into his shell.
He seems to have really grown in both mental and physical terms this year, and i hope this is the level of consistancy he will continue to reach.
Just hope for his sake he doesnt have another relapse.
added yakubu into his pocket collection this season.
Class act again last night.
Personally I have no issue with fans slagging players off away from the ground - we've had crap players at times, and if a player's no good then there's nothing wrong with people saying so on a forum.
But what's amazing about those quotes is it's as if they've never seen Jonny Evans before. He's been playing for almost six years now, and he's the best defensive talent to come through our ranks for years (not counting Pique).
How could people think he was clueless, rubbish, shit? What part of the brain sees Jonny Evans playing badly and processes it as him being shit, rather than having a slump?
Heh I remember one of my mates saying we should sell him after the Palace defeat, I generally think football fans have become more impatient as time has passed. It's always been clear to me Jonny is a great talent but talent won't thrive without confidence and continuity, Rio has helped him a lot, these games next to Rio are absolute gold dust to a young CB. Jonny will learn so much about organisation and leadership.
Can't believe how many people was slagging him off on the very first page of this thread, I'm glad I wasn't one of them and a couple of others joined me in his defence.
The players have voted already haven't they? I'll be surprised if anyone other than Evans or Carrick won it.
just shows how good he can be
all thanks to a run of games - he and smalling will form an excellent partnership in the future
all thanks to a run of games - he and smalling will form an excellent partnership in the future
I started the thread, always had faith in him 
I started the thread, always had faith in him
You´ll never love him the way I love him!
(No homo).
I started the thread, always had faith in him
Same. His quality was always there to be seen. A fluctuating season here or there given that he's still quite young for a CB was always expected.
Or Rooney.
I think Jonny could suffer from poor form again if he doesn't play regularly. Some players need that consistent run to hit form; i'm not sure if jonny is one of them, but it may be, seeing as his best run of form ever has been consistent with him being ever present.
Reminds me a little of wes brown in that he'd be a beast if given a run yet because of injury had interruptions in the first team - which meant that when he did play he made silly mistakes.
The other argument could be, of course, that its not the run in the first team that's making jonny brilliant, but jonny being brilliant is the reason he is given this run - he is keeping smalling out of the side after all.
Reminds me a little of wes brown in that he'd be a beast if given a run yet because of injury had interruptions in the first team - which meant that when he did play he made silly mistakes.
The other argument could be, of course, that its not the run in the first team that's making jonny brilliant, but jonny being brilliant is the reason he is given this run - he is keeping smalling out of the side after all.
Injuries do play a huge part, it was Smalling's place from last season until injuries gave Evans a run. Everyone plays better if they're already playing, so Evans wasn't going to come out for Smalling unless he had a serious dip. And while I think Smalling is the better CB, with Evans playing and in form, I agree he should have retained his spot over Smalling, and continue to do so.
I'll be OK so long as no-one goes to the Carrick thread.
I started the thread, always had faith in him
Hey, I have the second highest number of posts in here, all staunch defenses of the lad
Correct me if I'm wrong but he started last season as first choice CB and had his run. He hit poor form and then was dropped. I don't think it's the run of form that's done it for him rather than improved confidence and not slacking. He'd done well the previous season to earn the shot at cementing a place considering Rio has his problems and Smalling was a new signing and Brown was on his way to being shut out. He got a run at the start of the season but messed it up.
The amazing thing is its him and Rio and not him and Vidic that are looking so good.
Since Nemanja Vidic picked up his season-ending injury in Basel, Jonny Evans has started all but two league games. The only two he didn't start - Blackburn (h) and Newcastle (a) - we lost.
Evans had basically nothing to do in that match, as Yakubu was virtually isolated the whole game. WIthin the first 5 minutes Evans misjudged a bounce that went over his head and luckily for United Olsson didn't have a clue what he was doing.
Yakubu also muscled him off the ball a couple of times and played in other players. He definitely did not have him in his pocket, and really I can't believe that so many are saying he was perfect with so little to do. He wasn't shit by any means, but people seem to think he was amazing which I find hard to accept given how little he had to do.
If I had said the same about Vidic, I would be castigated - such hypocrisy in this place.
This is a good stat, fair play to Evans for his improvement in form since last year.
Put more bluntly, in the 15 games he's started since Vida's injury we've conceded 8 goals, in the two he didn't we conceded 6.
Damn Phil Jones
Except it isn't.
There were two seperate occasions Rio's reading of the game directly bailed Evans out of causing a huge problem for himself, and a load more where he ended up fouling his man to avoid being turned, in situations where there was no need for him to be out of position making the challenge in the first place.
He needs to stop doing it. It's the only real flaw left in his game.
Do you mean the unbeaten run last season where he played about the first six games, during which we kept throwing away leads with poor defending, and was then dropped for Rio and didn't start another league game for the entire rest of the year?
Or that one a couple of years earlier where we went about 50 games without conceding a goal? Rio and Vidic were our pairing for a majority of that time too. I think Evans started about four of the games.
I'm not sticking it to Evans, but I'd be more worried if Rio picked up an injury. They've both been excellent of late, but I think you could stick Smalling alongside Rio and it'd still be a pretty solid pairing. Smalling and Evans less so, for the time being.
His taste?
I'm just going to pretend I never saw that.
He started both against Bilbao though, and we lost both. Not saying it was his fault we lost but when facing a good team some of his flaws can be exposed.
That said, he's definitely redeemed himself from last season where by his own admission he took the eye off the ball.
Not quite. We went 14 league games without conceding. Evans started 6 of them. Just under half. Which is a very significant contribution.
I do think that his contribution in the 2008/2009 season is slightly overrated by some though. Yes, I know everyone is part of a defence, but he did have Vidic beside him who was in player of the year form at the time, while he had one of the best goalkeepers in the world behind him as well. I don't doubt that he played well, but it wasn't exactly hard for him that season. He's been infinitely better this season than he was back then.
I'll take your word on that one. I remember him starting one game at home to Wigan alongside Vidic, where he was awful (along with the rest of the team to be fair, except for Vidic, who basically won the game on his own), but can't remember which of the others he played.
But in anycase Vidic isn't fit for the rest of the season, so he's not really relevant.
We'll always be better with one or other of Vidic and Ferdinand in our starting line-up. They're our best central defenders.
What we can say about Evans, though, is that he's proved himself capable of playing very well alongside Rio and Vidic. Jury's still out on him and Smalling. On paper, they'd be great but they've played so few games together there's bound to be teething problems.
What we can say about Evans, though, is that he's proved himself capable of playing very well alongside Rio and Vidic. Jury's still out on him and Smalling. On paper, they'd be great but they've played so few games together there's bound to be teething problems.
Shows how costly that little drinking session for christmas was, wasn't he one of the players suspended by Fergie for these games or have I got that wrong?
He's turning into a very good ball playing defender. Something that is very much needed in the modern game.
Maybe, but you know what they say - you are only as good as your weakest part...
I'm not to sure whats amazing about that?? Rio has been probably the worlds best defender over the last decade, maybe on the slide a bit now but still has a huge amount of quality and even more experience and is exteremely calm and a great organiser..
Seems like the perfect partner for a very talented young centre half
and Gibbo
- Status