To get another goalscorer in the team between now and the end of the season
Jonathan David
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To achieve what?
Win Europa League or FA Cup
Yep. If we can prioritize and somehow win the Europa and thereby get the CL money it brings that will more than repay a transfer like this in Janiary.
Should at least enquire what they would sell for now?
I’m hearing €20M should get it done.
I wanted him before Hojlund joined I preferred him instead of Hojlund.
I think my fellow Mother Canuckers can back me up on this one. I would love to see a Canadian in a United shirt, but he's not the one. I'm absolutely baffled how he's scored so many goals in Ligue 1. Cyle Larin has always looked better for us and I wouldn't want him either. Alphonso Davies though, yes please.
Non-penalty goals per 90 across all competitions.
David at Lille: 0.43
Hojlund at Manchester United: 0.45
And David is four years older.
If we're going to add another striker, I'd hope it would be someone who looks like offering more of an improvement in terms of actual goalscoring than that. Otherwise it's just adding more meh to the mix.
David at Lille: 0.43
Hojlund at Manchester United: 0.45
And David is four years older.
If we're going to add another striker, I'd hope it would be someone who looks like offering more of an improvement in terms of actual goalscoring than that. Otherwise it's just adding more meh to the mix.
Tend to agree, he would be a step down. Davies on the other hand would be a step up. Regardless, cannot see either wearing the Manchester red in the near future.
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He’s a good pressing forward. He’s not a United level player (or at least where we want to be).
If he is better than what we have and he is available at the right price then we should be having a look at him.
Our current strikers could not score in a brothel at the moment.
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I’m not entirely sure he would be.
I like David I’ve followed his career since he was 19 at Gent and there’s many things he’s really good at which would make him a great option in La Liga or maybe Serie A too.
I just can’t see how he’d fit into this United side that lacks physicality. I think if he was going to move to a big club in the PL it would have happened by now because his asking price hasn’t ever been ridiculously high.
We should get Jonathan David regardless. He’s cheap and we’re very light in options up front. Has decent pace and strength and can play in a pressing side. Good scoring record, again good not great. He’s really a 6 or 7 across all attributes. Five months left on his contract. I’m assuming he can be had for cheap. Will get plenty of playing time across the front three without being an actual starter in most games.
What other mid table team, let alone a big team, has one attacking sub on its bench? We find ourselves in that situation often.
We're short up front but adding another striker that is not good enough won't help.
Would be a very underwhelming signing. May as well save the pennies and go for broke with a sure thing. That or we do some serious scouting and pull some hidden gem from out our arses.
I think he'd be a great bench option, like you said presses well and fairly physical. But arguably you need a starter who's clinical and a more natural CF. I've always seen him as more of a second-striker type rather than somebody who can lead the line on their own, sort of like a more mobile Zirkzee with a few more goals in him.
I'm not sure he really fits the profile of what Amorim would look for in a CF for his system, very different to Gyokeres for example if that's the guy he uses as a benchmark.
You got it right. David has recently learned to stretch the back line and offer more runs in behind, but he still tends to be drawn towards the ball and wants to link up the play instead. When he plays up front on his own, his involvement in the attack becomes more limited, and he's less impactful unless he's constantly given the final ball. His positioning is great, and he'll get himself into goalscoring positions, but if he leads the line, he can become invisible for lengthy stretches of a match.
Well there’s no way we’re getting any of the PL players mentioned in January without paying a king’s ransom. That leaves David who doesn’t really get the muppet juices flowing, especially as he isn’t even a proper no. 9.
They all sound incredibly B-rate.
They’d also all command top drawer level prices bar David, who isn’t even an out and out striker anyway. I wish we could just pluck some hidden gem out the French 2nd division for peanuts like the likes of Brighton do on a regular basis.
If we played 2 up top, I'd say absolutely. Unlikely that a lone striker role would suit him.
Might be alright as a #10 for us in this system, would look a bit clumsy, but he'd score goals and press. Might work in a functional manner like a prime Tim Cahill type for instance where the general play isn't great but he gets like 12 league goals in that position and defends well. I have to see this system more to know, really. Can you play a hard-working 2nd striker with average pace and strength who isn't silky but gets into decent positions and poaches well? Or is that a bad profile?
I wouldn't describe David as not being silky. He's very skillful on the ball; he's just not the creative type. If one of the inside forwards plays a more creative role, then the other inside forward can be more of a goalscorer. When Ruben Amorim was at Sporting, Trincão was the more creative inside forward, whilst Gonçalves was a more attacking inside forward looking to score more goals and play more of the final passes. The role that Gonçalves played suits David, and his pressing is ideal for Amorim's system. The only drawback is that he isn't particularly speedy, but he makes up for that with his work rate and stamina.
I think of him as more functional on the ball than creative, as you say, or silky.
Would be nice to bring in a player who stays fit and contributes defensively and with goals, though. We're not exactly spoiled for that sort of thing.
I'm surprised some team playing 4-3-3 with attacking wingers hasn't bought him and tried to make him a false 9. He'd still get goals and do some work defensively. Not especially creative but he gets into pockets of space and lays it off well.
Personally, I think he might be better off in another league. He reads the game well and sometimes when that's your strength as opposed to physical attributes, it still feels like the Prem isn't always the best bet. On the other hand, if he doesn't do well in England, he can move abroad, his goalscoring record for club and country speaks for itself, and he seems like a solid professional (I've never read otherwise and he's always working hard for Canada even in annoying Concacaf environments or if the game isn't close).
Beg your pardon?
News to me that he's not a striker after all these years
I always seen him as one of those 9.5 types a bit like Zirkzee rather than a prolific out and out goal scorer which is what we’re needing. Happy to stand corrected if I’m wrong though.
Yeah, he's currently a better fit for any league other than the Premier League. As much as he's developed and refined his game, the one thing he currently struggles with is the ability to quickly respond to a passing lane or space being closed down. Then again, if other players coming into the PL can adapt to the faster pace, then there's no reason for David to not do the same.
How did he play at Anfield tonight, would definitely take him on a free in the summer to add depth. I just hope they don't see it as a cheaper alternative to Osimhen/Gyokeres.
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