John Murtough Sack Watch

[justsomebloke]

Point being (as per my post) that it wasn’t his fault he was promoted to a potion he had no business being in by Woodward.

His appointment as FD was largely a distraction to placate fans who have been baying for years about modernising the structure. It’s the same reason Fletcher has his stupid misleading job title.

Woodward was never interested in a proper DoF because he wanted to maintain control and power over the club. Remember, Murtough was only given autonomy over football decisions when Arnold replaced Woodward.

You are also ignorant to the good Murtough did in his previous roles at the club. He was someone who worked tirelessly to improve and further the club, and he should be congratulated for that.

What, he was pushed into the DoF position against his will, and has no responsibility for his performance? In any case. None of that has any bearing on his being useless as a DoF, or on his departure being a case of good riddance. So that's really not much of a point.

 

[Tom Van Persie]

What happened with him and Nicky Butt?

https://theathletic.com/5151315/2023/12/22/manchester-united-fotball-news-transfers/

In July 2019 Nicky Butt switched from head of academy to a newly created position as head of first-team development, with Nick Cox taking over the running of the youth department. This happened after a blazing row between Butt and Murtough in the canteen at Carrington.

The pair had long had disagreements on various issues, but matters erupted when Butt discovered Murtough told a colleague he planned to move him out of his position by the end of the season. Butt was furious at what he saw as a secret plot.

Murtough declined to comment for this article. Those close to him dispute the severity of the argument but acknowledge that tensions arose from what they describe as a misunderstanding over a proposed reorganisation of academy administration in which Butt would still have had a role. Murtough has told colleagues of his respect for Butt and his sadness at the breakdown in relations.

Butt was adamant though. He had recognised Cox’s abilities suited the requirements of a head of academy more than his and was happy to vacate the job, but he regarded Murtough determining the move without his input as hugely disrespectful. Butt told Murtough this during a heated altercation, finishing by stating he wanted no further communication and walking off. Murtough followed in pursuit to give his arguments.

 

[McGrathsipan]

Time to change thread title

 

[AneRu]

Point being (as per my post) that it wasn’t his fault he was promoted to a potion he had no business being in by Woodward.

His appointment as FD was largely a distraction to placate fans who have been baying for years about modernising the structure. It’s the same reason Fletcher has his stupid misleading job title.

Woodward was never interested in a proper DoF because he wanted to maintain control and power over the club. Remember, Murtough was only given autonomy over football decisions when Arnold replaced Woodward.

You are also ignorant to the good Murtough did in his previous roles at the club. He was someone who worked tirelessly to improve and further the club, and he should be congratulated for that.

I think you misdiagnose the issues a bit, he could have been a success as he has led the club in identifying and signing some of the best young players who are making impressions at first team level. Even the thought process behind signing ETH was correct, under Woodward we would have gone for Pochettino and be as fecked as Chelsea are.

Where he went wrong, in my view, was in abdicating his responsibilities for first team recruitment to ETH and not trusted his scouts more. He should have been firmer with ETH and told him no on the Antony deal for example. ETH didn't run recruitment at Ajax, we took him up several levels from the Dutch League to the PL and then gave him more responsibility than he had at Ajax! Who does that? If he had avoided the Antony mistake most probably the Casemiro one doesn't look as bad because he'd have had funds to bolster the team in other areas.

This job is not as tough as its being made out to be if one exercises good judgement and is cautious. You have scouts working across the globe bringing you a variety of options, you immediately get many contacts on appointment and all you need to do is make the right calls to protect your club. It's a huge missed opportunity for him, he was over promoted beyond his track record but he can only blame himself for failing.

 

[vanderpants]

The funny thing is, all staff received an email asking for a contribution for him leaving, I'm sure he's not short of a few quid!

 

[Skills]

Crazy to think that the FA Youth Cup winning team he put together, just delivered us 2 goalscorers in the final today.

 

[McFred]

As Utd work simultaneously on about 7 deals, can’t help but spare a thought for big John.

Sat at home ruefully shaking his head at all this activity, muttering “one does not simply submit bids for more than one player at a time….amateurs. Anyway, it’s about that time of the evening to send my customary saucy pictures to Veronique Rabiot - I’ll show her a Murtough madness”