Johan Cruyff 1947-2016

"Then you can work in a circus", love it, typical Cruyff.

Going back to @Dr. Funkenstein post Pelé was the most successful, Cruyff the most influential and Maradona the romance (his personal story, a mix of Pelé's rise from poverty and Cruyff's rebelliousness, everyone loving an underdog story, etc).

Doesn't leave Messi many options.

The remarkable thing is you had three of them. Lucky? Probably not. Mes que un club.

The villain.
 
Included under Maradona's romance and controversial persona.

He can claim all sorts of records, but that's where the superteam argument kicks in.
Not an entirely stupid argument :rolleyes:
 
Not an entirely stupid argument :rolleyes:
Did I say that? It's insoluble, that's the problem. The only thing to check is him for Argentina and people will then blame him for not winning anything despite star-studded sides.

They have fancy forwards but are dogshit really, and that's despite Messi's brilliance.
 
Hell of a player, like a few others worthy of being the greatest of all time. His biggest contribution to the game came as a player imo.
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39391826

His combined player/manager stats are amazing - 4 European Cups, 2 ECWC, 14 titles, 10 cups, numerous others..... oh, and 3 successive Ballon D'ors!

If anyone deserves a statue, it was him. Great player, longevity, balletic, inventive, individual and then changed Barca's history via management. Just wish he'd won a WC.

Pele and Maradona are regularly held up as potentially the greatest, but I'd pay to watch Cruyff over either of them.

Genius.
 
April 25th 1947, meaning Cruijff would've turned 70 today.


Ajax and the local government finally made the one appropriate gesture, officially announcing tonight that the 'Amsterdam Arena' from now on will be named 'Johan Cruijff Arena'.
 
Just posted the picture in iconic photos, really wasn't aware that today should be his 70th birthday.

When you look what he has done as a player and then as a coach, incredible. Nobody had so much influence on both level.

Loved this quote of his also: "I’m ex-player, ex-director, ex-coach, ex-manager, ex-honorary president. A nice list that again shows everything comes to an end". So true.

RIP
 
Today it is officially confirmed (in the Dutch media): starting from season 2018-2019 the stadium of Ajax will be officially renamed into the Johan Cruijff Arena. They will start changing things like nameplates and the likes. Took a time, but definitely a fitting tribute.
 
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Today it is officially confirmed (in the Dutch media): starting from season 2018-2019 the stadium of Ajax will be officially renamed into the Johan Cruijff Arena. They will start changing things like nameplates and the likes. Took a time, but definitely a fitting tribute.
Should have done it while he was still alive, but better late than never I guess.
 
We are in a time of football statistics being the be all and end all.

But you can’t use stats for Cruyff, he was a genius.

Yop, he's one of the biggest legends of the game. He had wonderful physical qualities, mostly explosiviness, and combined them with great technique and a sharp brain. The latter helped him become a great manager as well.
 
We are in a time of football statistics being the be all and end all.

But you can’t use stats for Cruyff, he was a genius.
Even his statistics are impressive, his goal record is superb for the positions he played. Then you have his trophy cabinet which is pretty complete with just an international trophy missing, although he did come extremely close.
 
But you can’t use stats for Cruyff
Yep, Cruyff's game transcended mere raw numbers — though to be fair, a lot of his statistics are brilliant for a player of his ilk, even in the company of the true All-Time offensive greats:
  • He scored 20-plus league goals in six consecutive seasons for Ajax and was also part of the highest scoring team in Eredivisie history (1966-1967, 122 goals).
  • Cruyff won 80 per cent of Eredivisie games as a player, a higher rate than anyone else in the league's history.
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* Stats for Cristiano and Messi need updating.

And then there's the '74 World Cup — the pinnacle of his international career:

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  • Between 1970 and 1974, the Netherlands lost only one of the 29 matches in which Cruyff featured - the World Cup final v West Germany in 1974.
  • Cruyff had more successful dribbles in the 1974 World Cup (34) than any other player. This included his famous 'Cruyff turn' against Sweden.
  • In the 1974 World Cup, Cruyff was also the player who created the most chances (36) and completed the most passes in the final third of the pitch (136).
 
Yep, Cruyff's game transcended mere raw numbers — though to be fair, a lot of his statistics are brilliant for a player of his ilk, even in the company of the true All-Time offensive greats:

Another aspect is that his game didn't revolve solely around goals, but stats weren't measured back then.

On the "Bigsoccer" forum, a couple very dedicated users spent years going through match reports, etc. to create a tally of verifiable assists, being very rigorous and very strict about it confirming an assist. The conclusion furthest into thread was

So that's what I've got for NOW: 727 matches (5 as sub), 63075 minutes (86,8 per match), 419 goals (7 of them were penalties, at least 54 - headers, 5 - free-kicks), at least 348 assists, at least 56 caused penalties, at least 52 yellow cards (I'm sure at least 90% of them were for protests or for talking), 5 red cards, at least 40 cancelled goals, 205 times he was captain (I mean from the match start). Those assist statistics are excluding most of his Ajax 1964-1973 Dutch league and cup games as there were no reliable sources


So that assist record would be based on only about 400 games or something, maybe 450, but that's unreal.

Not surprising you give that many assists when you can just as easily give a great ball with the inside of your left foot as you can with the outside of your right, to make two assists within two minutes of the same game:

 
@Ajaxsuarez, yes, that aspect is certainly overlooked for a lot of older players! And that thread is undoubtedly fantastic — close to 100 pages for the statistics of only Cruyff, and aside from that, the site has ones like this for Zidane with a review of his seasons: Link 1, and this one for archiving some Pelé and Santos stats vs. European teams: Link 2.

A real treasure trove, and they've made a neat little table for Cruyff's assists as well:

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I'll post the link to the final version of @Arsenij his work when he's done (he says he has troubles uploading it so I do it for him then). But this is already an interesting overview of him in official matches.
http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/johan-cruyff-matches-and-goals-scored.1865250/page-81
 
Yep, Cruyff's game transcended mere raw numbers — though to be fair, a lot of his statistics are brilliant for a player of his ilk, even in the company of the true All-Time offensive greats:
@Ajaxsuarez, yes, that aspect is certainly overlooked for a lot of older players! And that thread is undoubtedly fantastic — close to 100 pages for the statistics of only Cruyff, and aside from that, the site has ones like this for Zidane with a review of his seasons: Link 1, and this one for archiving some Pelé and Santos stats vs. European teams: Link 2.

A real treasure trove, and they've made a neat little table for Cruyff's assists as well:

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http://www.bigsoccer.com/threads/johan-cruyff-matches-and-goals-scored.1865250/page-81
Had actually never heard of that before, looks absolutely amazing so thanks for bringing that up!